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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Bitcoin Cash overcome the original Bitcoin? on: August 04, 2017, 08:45:02 PM
Bitcoin Cash can never overcome the original Bitcoin. I cannot think of such a possibility. Bitcoin is still the ruling king of the kingdom of cryptocurrencies. Right now the price of bitcoin is soaring really high and Bitcoin Cash is on the opposite.

Bitcoin cash is just another altcoin, and not single one of alt is never been bigger then bitcoin and never will be. Bitcoin cash was good attempt i must say to give everyone same amount they have in bitcoin. This was bold move but eventually people greed for more money ended like it should with every alt price is falling.

If the BCC price drops to 0.03 to 0.05 bitcoin, I think it is good value and might buy more.

To be honest think that even 0.03 will be good if they maintain this one after all this fuzz about it.
682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 04, 2017, 08:37:54 PM
Gambling gives hope and shortcut for people who have dreams to make alot money easily without equivalent of expertise. And in fact, they are even be more poor.

Hope you say. This is wrong hope is the last thing you need in gambling. Greed is more accurate one for this. Everything in gambling is greed desire for more money.
But in the end every one who enter with this end up with nothing. Greed is ally for casinos they now like that will win all you money.
683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin: A big ride is about to come on: August 04, 2017, 08:34:43 PM
Yes that price is very impossible to reach even 30 years will past. The next bubble will drive the price near 4000$ maybe next year.. and  maybe nextweek the ride to 3500$ will begin.

anyone who uses the word impossible winds up looking like a silly person.

watch and learn.
Correct even if the price seems high, to reach 40k to 110k  is not impossible, bitcoin only needs to grow about 15% per year in order to reach 185k in 30 years and by the way bitcoin is growing a lot faster than that in every single year since its creation, so a price like that is not as wild as some people may think.

For this price is still high expectation. We first need to brake 3k and 4K in price then you can speculate for something bigger. But first bitcoin need to hit first 5 digits and that is 10000. This price is still far away. Remember that only when halving is and now this segwith with bitcoin cash we could hope for price to go up again. Dont see how will price go every year for 15% when every time we have this rise we have after and fall. Off course if fall comes it wont be like it was last time.
684  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: August 04, 2017, 08:30:54 PM
In terms of reducing unemployment, It does whenever you have something to offer in return !  But it is like you have to know or do something in order to get some bitcoins ( even trading needs some expertise). In order to reduce unemployment people needs to work for it, be it bitcoin or fiat currency.
This digital and modern era is very unfortunate if there is still unemployment, obviously they do not want to think creatively and take advantage of opportunities that exist, they just wait for the miracle without trying. Bitcoin is a good prospect for work and eliminates unemployment.

Some do think that they can have miracle like that, but bitcoin wont make then do this. Bitcoin is currency not job. Job you can have full time part time, or like some here with some signature and social media campaigns. You can earn bitcoin but bitcoin will not reduce unemployment.
685  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 04, 2017, 08:19:27 PM
Old people who do not accept plastic cards gradually die, and a new generation use Bank cards without problems. The costs of printing, delivery and service of Fiat is very high and therefore the state will certainly move to full clearing. I think it would be a period of 10-20 years.
Not just old people, but many people in different parts of the world where the internet is still rare and technology is not so popular in the country, maybe in many poor countries they are not too familiar with the plastics card let alone non-cash currency. Of course they will not be able to accept cashless at this time


True. Most so called third countries have this problem, dont think that is most of the part in the world this can be done but for those countries that are still relay on paper money it will be very hard to adopt and to accept changes in there monetary system. Eventually it will come to this, like mentioned here making paper money is expensive. There for it will only take that all government be united in this not just big economically strong ones.
686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) price tomorrow gon' be like..... on: August 04, 2017, 08:15:18 PM
once again, it's free money, how one can be fucked?
worst case scenario = you have 0 worth BCC so you did have before Aug 1

everything else is just profit

.... still?

it might not end up being free money. let's see how it develops first. there'll be a concerted push to use it to devalue the original chain. now the fork is done there will always be a doubt in the back of minds about whether they should be sold just in case. that's what they're gonna keep playing on.

I dont think so think this is some push for someone to make more bitcoin in exchange. Ok we all got it one way or another but i dont think this will be good at the end. So many talks that it will be bigger the bitcoin but it already started to go down, hope that it might be success with some future development and improvement and that if someone is saving it will end up at the end with some better ratio on exchange, but dont think that there are so many of them.
687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Was Bitcoin Cash a Pump Dump? on: August 03, 2017, 04:06:23 PM
Somehow BCC looks promising,
it has so many users as BTC, so the community is strong.
It is just couple days and visiting Mars,..... I have to monitor the situation as crypto is having many hype and unpredictable

Pump is better Smiley

Now price is going in right way. When will you all learn that there is nothing bigger then bitcoin. When did some coin went more then bitcoin and stay there. Answer: Not a single one.

Reading post here that some bought when it was 0.3. Xaxa classic one. When i saw i got this i sell immediately and not look back at all.
Sell while you can price is going on 0.03-0.05 which is for me realistic price for single one if not even lees then this one.
688  Economy / Speculation / Re: WHEN will BTC rise again and WHY? on: August 03, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
Whether we like support it or not, hardfork was one of the best thing that happened to Bitcoin. Finally over and people can take positions in the market again. I do not personally think that it solved Bitcoins current problems, but at least we trader will have some time to play before questions are raised again. I think reaching 3k again and perhaps trying 4k for the first time is not impossible, but before that BCC need to get on its potential price range and stable there a bit. This does not seem to be happining just yet.

Next price rise will happen but after BCC pass away in next following weeks. After this we will see market will be pumping with so many that this 4k price you mentioned may be happening and will be set as new ATH maybe. Think that next week or two will be stable price for bitcoin, cuz this BCC is currently news and all think it will replace bitcoin (no one will ever replace it). So after this we will have some movements not before. Think this is perfect opportunity for buying cuz price will go up and traders know this so they buy as much as they can.

689  Economy / Speculation / Re: About BCC (Bitcoin's Cancer Cell) on: August 03, 2017, 09:32:45 AM

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The Cancer is not only a direct threat to Bitcoin, but ultimately to itself since it is built on faulty fundamentals:


I believe its as much a "threat" to Bitcoin as ETC is to ETH. none.
I hold this view as well, some people are worried about the price of BCC but that price is not going to last for long as people begin to dump the coin and it is eventually killed not by the miners but by the users.

I think that it is more of a threat than ETC is to ETH. I worry about hashrate leaving BTC for BCC in November.

Maybe this will happen in start but latter they will see that its nothing special. They all want to have fast income in exchange for this. Profit is all that all want not to store or keep them. This will end up to be dead sooner they it come to life from my point of view. Hope that who ever wanted to take some part in it will end up with some more coin not to end up with losing it at the end. This will all be over in a month or two maybe is rush for hopping it will be for November.
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] Litecoin Speculation on: August 03, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
Do you guys think litecoin will have any price increase?  Nothing seems to be happening with this coin at all.
Yes I'm expecting LTC major growth!
"Lee said the split is not a big concern for Litecoin, but more towards the original Bitcoin."
https://cointelegraph.com/news/litecoin-founder-not-worried-about-bitcoin-cash-moving-into-altcoin-scene-cnbc
As you can conclude LTC has many advantages over BTC, and peolple will relise this one day, and one day price will go to 0.1 BTC. Probably when this BCH drama ends, at the end of a year or sooner i hope.

My hopes are the same for ltc. Think that this BCC/BCH is just another attempt to get some bitcoin from all that think this will be next "bitcoin". They dont know or they forgot that not single coin made near bitcoin. Lite will use this for price ump as you said, but think after not just this drama but month or two latter near this year end. Then all will realize that they made mistake.
691  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: August 02, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
all county will accept bitcoin as payment and exchange same day. and bitcoin will be the  global currency. And increase rapidly and unstoppable  even a government can not stop bitcoin .and bitcoin will be legal to the all county not just bitcoin but all crypto currency like ethereum and litecoin
yes that is  right that at the end all the countries will accept bitcoin but i think it will take a lot of time because still only japan has accepted bitcoin and the reason is  that in japan the bitcoin users are more and therefore they consider bitcoin as legal currency.
Well, nowadays so many big countries are receiving bitcoin, but I do not think that's maximal yet. Maybe currently bitcoin is still in development, I feel that bitcoin will also become a global currency, because big countries have started to accept bitcoin as a legal transaction tool.
Bitcoin has been a global currency since it was created and there will be nothing change in this. Even if the country ban bitcoin, it will still be used by people over the world. Legalizing bitcoin only make the more people notice about it. Bitcoin is good and it needs to be used everywhere. People need to learn more about bitcoin because it is one of the safest way to keep your property

Bitcoin is not just currency globally, it much more some consider it at value similar to gold, the more you have it the better. But you are wrong about the safest way we saw many times wallet and even exchanges got hacked but when you look at bank this is far safer way to keep money.
692  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever? on: August 02, 2017, 10:23:21 AM
At present the price is staggering around $2700 which reached above $2800 in between and keeps counting. The price hasn't reached a new ATH which was recorded to be few dollars less than $3000. Hope the price will grow depending upon the present day's end result. Nothing seems to be assured, but the trust drives the price reach higher.

Expecting to see on all exchanges price over 3000 but after this with BCC comes pass. Think that made some impact on moving price of bitcoin up and that all are waiting to sell bitcoin cash for as much as possible. Then expect to see price of bitcoin going up much more then 3000. Consider little above 3000 to be stable price after all this and how long will it last that will depend mainly from how much noise will bitcoin cash make.
693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Some theories about bitcoin price because of BCC airdrop on: August 02, 2017, 10:03:50 AM
Bitcoin is split, so its value will also be divided, BCC and BTC will carry different values, but I think BCC will carry a very low value. A free gift can not carry a high value. Market capitalization does not allow that.

At he end we will all sell this free gift and convert it to bitcoin. Considering this gift as free money most will change momentary to bitcoin some will hope BCC will go up but when all drop it price will go down this is some feeling about it and dont think this will be better. Dont know how much is the price that some predict but my prediction is that will be much lower then current one on coinmarketcap.
694  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the Biggest problem you have with trading / exchanging? on: August 02, 2017, 09:59:57 AM
The biggest problems I had is the transactions speed, I ever try want to do arbitrage trading but because the speed transactions is slow then I lost the chance to earn and some of the alt coins are hard to send and withdraw and then exchanger often got a negative rumours and make me hesitate to do big trading

Transaction speed is something that we all want to eat out PC. For how many times you/me/he/she wanted to sell then price went down and we want sell at the moment.
I know that is hard but what could it bee if one time only we could sell some coin at the moment price before fall. Who will then benifit from it seller or buyer.

For big trading is something really hard to decide what to do i try to avoid this as much as possible cuz i have some bad experience few coin that went high ended up missing. So i use small investment with small profit. After my experience i chose to play safe minimum investment with minimum profit working great so far.
695  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: August 02, 2017, 09:52:25 AM
I don't think that's a good idea. First of all not all people has access  the internet, secondly cryptocurrency takes some skills to know how to handle it and do your transfers online so it's gonna be hard for old people and those who are not into technology to learn about. "Cashless Society" is a great idea, but unfortunately it's really hard to have it  in the real world.

You have a point there, mate. In current times, it's rather difficult for a cashless society to emerge given the fact that not everyone has access to the internet, and have proper knowledge of how to use cryptocurrencies.

However, I believe that slowly but steady, a cashless society will be introduced by solving the issues mentioned earlier, allowing anyone to access the internet via a global satellite, and strengthening education about cryptocurrency usage for the masses.

When all of the limitations become surpassed, then a cashless society will come into effect, changing the ways we transact with anyone, and eliminating the use of physical fiat currencies once and for all. Just my thoughts Grin

This not need to be case in cryptocurrencies at all. Without internet you can pay nothing even with credit card or some other sort of card for payment. For solution nothing can come over night slow and steady like you mentioned is the best possible way. IF all see this is good and acceptable then they can start changing the way of people payment. Not to mentioned to all use cards for payment especially old people, they like more papers then plastic. This could be big problem.
696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) price tomorrow gon' be like..... on: August 02, 2017, 09:45:29 AM
Guys do you feel the hype right now with bitcoin-cash price or it is a first step in long journey of price movement till to reach original bitcoin price .

Dont thinks so im expecting to see something similar like with zcash when he arrived on market. All bitcoin users got bitcoin cash but i dont think that this amount they get is something that they want to see when it active exchange on market expect to see price fall down in day or two. He might be worth more then ETH but dont think it will last long.
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRYPTOFORECAST [CFT] ♦Anticipating the financial market is now possible♦ on: August 01, 2017, 08:16:28 PM
guys, when i will get mu twitter bounty? already more than month silence, i send my wallet address and still nothing, is topic even alive?

You not the only one seem like they run away and stole some coins from several members. I also didnt receive coin for twitter bounty but let then have them even send few PM with no respond so i quite this only if you have more then 1000 followers then its you right to have your coin cuz this is quite good amount to talk about.

I would be surprised if they done well but they have very bad intention at the end.
698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: August 01, 2017, 08:12:12 PM
Yes it already secured it's position in the year 2017, many people are now days looking some thing new in their daily life so my though is government should elaborate bitcoin technology through out the world wide and make announcement that bitcoin can use able like gold. Bitcoin is completely digital currency and is limited we cannot able to mine more than that like gold.
I feel that in 2017 Bitcoin has a lot of fluctuations. The rumors of August 1 confuse users and Bitcoin prices are more volatile.
Yes, too much volatility, the price of Bitcoin changed a lot in 2017. Especially after August 1, the price of bitcoin will probably be higher than ever, many people will soon become rich with bitcoin. Currently, many rumors bitcoin will have division into btc and bcc but I think this is just bullshit and very hard to happen, we should believe in bitcoin and do not panic about this rumor. I think 2017 is the year that will mark the development and popularity of bitcoin, many countries will accept and use bitcoin in their daily lives
It seems that you are right.  After the August 1, I predict that the value of the bitcoin will rapidly goes up. I also heard a humor that many big countries will accept the bitcoin like Russia and China.

This is so far best year for bitcoin in matter of price and development, we have to agree all. This year brought many new things and we see that majority of countries are thinking to adapt Japan model, meaning fully integrate bitcoin as meaning of paying in every day transaction. With this price is bound to go up, we need only patience nothing else.
699  Economy / Exchanges / Re: who would have thought: Btc-e coming back this soon! on: July 31, 2017, 07:05:50 PM
they've released an official statement today in a couple of hours ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056158.0
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!

Let's see if they'll stay true to their word! I wouldn't be surprised if people actually get their coins back. None of the other exchanges have been both so shady and legit at the same time as btc-e.

While I can imagine that Alexander wasn't the owner, I still assume that he was at least employed by btc-e. Either way, let's see if they make a comeback. Would be pretty epic to see the honey badger of exchanges get back to live.
I have the same assumptions too. If Alexander isnt the owner then he might possibly been connected to them but as i have read on btc-e statement they do declared its not related to them.Its somehow confusing on what would be the relations of this guy to BTC-e. This is the interesting part on which if they would really be sensible enough to comeback and refund their users money.

I dont know if my memory is right only poloniex return all funds. Really dont know how will they do this but if they do they will be more then good for future deposit. I moved my coins from there cuz they dont have anything just few coin and maybe that is better no delay in trading at least.
700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price after fork on: July 31, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
It is crazy if someone thinks that BCC will have a higher value than BTC. We do not have any basis to confirm it, BCC is just a weak currency.

I think in the near future, the BCC price will lower than bitcoin, maybe 10 to 20%. If there is more support, the price could be even higher.

I dont think so. Like any other coin this will be alt. And we know from past that no alt is near bitcoin in price or in anything else.
He might be there for month max but after that i think it will be less valued then ETH. Creating this for me was mistake or for someone opportunity to earn some quick bitcoin in exchange.
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