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1841  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex exchange owner admits to using inside information to trade on own platf on: January 24, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
why don't you use De-centralized exchangers?
1842  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Decentralized exchange Bitsquare crowdfunding campain now live! on: January 24, 2015, 05:13:52 PM
This is what we need, i want to see tons of working decentralized exchanges happening.
What is the difference if you compare this to Coinffeine??

then why does the BTC community prefers centralized shit exchangers? Smiley
there is not any decentralized exchange yet

bitshares is a decentralized exchange

http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/05/The-Future-of-Crypto-Currency-Exchanges/

and why the people are not using it and they do still prefer centralized shit exchangers?
1843  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BurtW arrested on: January 24, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
Was he arrested only because of selling bitcoins for cash ?

yes, you need to be licensed for that. All the US exchangers(the companies) will be under investigation very soon. it's illegal what they are ALL doing. Even the "big" ones are illegal. You will wonder how it is possible.

Well, think about how many big exchangers were closed during the time (Tradehill, Bitinstant, BitFloor and others). Coinbase and BitPay will be next(few months...maybe less). Stay tunned ! Smiley
1844  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 24, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
let's not forget that the difficulty will increase and they will need a new hardware in 7-8 months.

even the BTC price will be double, it's not worth it... I have the same question. Who is still mining?
1845  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 24, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
I would like to know how can a miner still earn money with BTC = 230 USD while the biggest "miner" Cex.io closed the business.

Cex.io said that they cannot cover the cost anymore.

Whose are still mining? Who is the biggest miner now?





Where did you read the news?
Can you post the link Plz!

I'm really interested.

I Have a zen cloud contract.
I hope it not will be the next!


here is the link : http://blog.cex.io/news/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

i recommend you to cashout the funds from any existing cloud mining program.

cex.io goes down, but that dont mean its the end of the miners.

Busines like Bitmain, or spondoolies tech, now have great discounts in the hardware.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/
https://bitmaintech.com/




http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/holiday-special-sp20-mini-farm-batch-2  

you can earn up to 2 USD per DAY Smiley

Hardware cost = 5500 USD
Electricity = aprox 10 cents per hour

So, HOW is it possible for a miner to make profit?!
1846  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 24, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
how can you get free electricity for a mining farm which normally cost around of 7000 USD per day?? Smiley

I am referring to the real mining farms not clouding or ponzi. Who is the biggest miner now?
The question was: "I would like to know how can a miner still earn money with BTC = 230 USD" Nothing about 7000 in there.

If the mining was possible 14 months ago with BTC trading for $120, it should be now at almost twice that price. Mining is taking a risk.

the mining difficulty was much lower than now. that's why they afforded to do it.

Cex.io was the biggest miner(I guess) and they closed the shop. If the biggest one is closing, how can the rest of miners still remain?

It cannot be a hobby because it costs a lot of money per day. The electricity price is around of 0.13 USD cents(average). it doesn't matter if you live in China, USA or Nigeria.

The big miners own a lot of a ASICs so...the cost must be huge. they cannot make "tricks" in order to avoid the bills... The cost for a mining farm is around of 7000 USD per day.
1847  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Virtex is SCAM. Don't deposite money there. Don't trade there. on: January 24, 2015, 03:29:15 PM
egopay.com ceased to exist!
but my btc them virtex.com
virtex.com how soon cease to exist?

virtex is egopay. virtex belongs to egopay....
1848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cold storage - HACKED easily on: January 24, 2015, 04:26:36 AM
Are all cold storages equally vulnerable or only the ones with the transactions?

A cold storage that only has received has the same security as an empty one. If it has sent money, then I don't think it can be considered cold anymore.

either ways, it is not safe Smiley
1849  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There is no consensus on the existance of the foundation on: January 24, 2015, 03:53:58 AM
This Foundation is talking in the behalf of the whole BTC community. The question is : why is it necessary a centralized entity?
1850  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Decentralized exchange Bitsquare crowdfunding campain now live! on: January 24, 2015, 03:50:44 AM
This is what we need, i want to see tons of working decentralized exchanges happening.
What is the difference if you compare this to Coinffeine??

then why does the BTC community prefers centralized shit exchangers? Smiley
1851  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BurtW arrested on: January 24, 2015, 03:47:46 AM
OMG! BurtW was a great guy and very active here. I believe he mostly did cash transactions, I hope this isn't another one of those localbitcoins "stings".

A link to his profile here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14808

We need to help him.

there is no help for him now.... he knew what he is doing
1852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Winklevoss Twins Aim to Take Bitcoin Mainstream With a Regulated Exchange on: January 24, 2015, 03:35:51 AM
This will be really good when it's finally up. I believe it will help the overall bitcoin price.


BUT Bitcoin was made with other AIM, you hypocrites (according to the BTC hard core).

Bitcoin was made for freedom, right? All over you can read " Bitcoin is anonymity, Bitcoin is not like a bank, Bitcoin bla bla"

Are not these your beliefs?Are you not libertarian anymore? Smiley

 If so, why are you excited about a REGULATED market? Why would someone use ANOTHER regulated market ?

There is a VERY big one outside of Bitcoin. You can use it right now.
There are a lot of Forex, Stock markets, ALL OF THEM ARE ALREADY REGULATED.

A regulated market means ALL the papers that a bank requires you now. Nothing more, nothing less.

you will be reported to IRS(or similar tax authorities, you will be reported for so called suspicious transactions, etc) .

REGULATED = CENTRALIZED  and everywhere i see on this forum, it is written:"we want DE-centralized services "

Why do you still use Bitcoin if you want all of these, you hypocrites ?

WTF are you talking about? Exchanges are for exchanging fiat. We have wallets for exchanging bitcoins. The only wallets for fiat are in your purse, you silly goose.

How will you fund or cash out BTC, Mr. SmartAss? Smiley Will you make a magic for that? You will need an exchanger, grandpa

You will tell me the old story now: that you use BTC for buying anything you want and you don't need cash, you hypocrite ! lol

Well, I have a bad news for you, grandpa. BTC is not used for that. BTC is used for speculation and black market.

Please stay away of drugs for a while.
1853  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Winklevoss Twins Aim to Take Bitcoin Mainstream With a Regulated Exchange on: January 24, 2015, 03:07:24 AM
This will be really good when it's finally up. I believe it will help the overall bitcoin price.


BUT Bitcoin was made with other AIM, you hypocrites (according to the BTC hard core).

Bitcoin was made for freedom, right? All over you can read " Bitcoin is anonymity, Bitcoin is not like a bank, Bitcoin bla bla"

Are not these your beliefs?Are you not libertarian anymore? Smiley

 If so, why are you excited about a REGULATED market? Why would someone use ANOTHER regulated market ?

There is a VERY big one outside of Bitcoin. You can use it right now.
There are a lot of Forex, Stock markets, ALL OF THEM ARE ALREADY REGULATED.

A regulated market means ALL the papers that a bank requires you now. Nothing more, nothing less.

you will be reported to IRS(or similar tax authorities, you will be reported for so called suspicious transactions, etc) .

REGULATED = CENTRALIZED  and everywhere i see on this forum, it is written:"we want DE-centralized services "

Why do you still use Bitcoin if you want all of these, you hypocrites ?
1854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Either the Kraken CEO is fooling with us or... on: January 24, 2015, 03:01:41 AM
hahahahha. what joke. Kraken CEO wants to earn popularity. MT Gox money are GONE for good. How can someone believe that you will ever see any money back?

What was Mt Gox? a centralized exchanger. who are you? a libertarian, right?  Why did you use a centralized exchanger? Smiley
1855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 24, 2015, 02:53:44 AM
alright but BE libertarian till the end. do not be libertarian when you like and "normal" people when you don't like.

assume your beliefs.

 Be Libertarian when someone is running with your funds from a "centralized" exchanger (why did you use it if you want de-centralized exchangers?), be libertarian by not using the banks at all, keep all your money in Bitcoin as you learn everybody else to do it and so on Smiley

Also, be libertarian and say NO to any regulation and do not scream that you want a regulated market because a libertarian wants "freedom", right? Smiley

Be hypocrite till the end.
1856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fake transactions in the exchanges again? Don't trust your eyes... on: January 24, 2015, 02:45:28 AM
Something fishy is going on right now

The price of BTC is ALWAYS, ALWAYS being manipulated by the big exchanges, especially BTC-E and Bitstamp!
I would disagree with this. The exchanges have an incentive to make their markets as fair as possible so more people will trade on them which would result in more trading commissions for them

you live in other world... I recommend you to stay away of BTC. you are just a victim for "sharks". Bitcoin is not a heaven where there are angel singing. Bitcoin is a manipulated market, controlled by exchangers.

They create the price, the so called demand and in the end, the fools will pay   Smiley

you will be like that:



the "exchangers and their shareholders" like that :

1857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 24, 2015, 02:12:37 AM
it's so funny that the people are arguing about that.

there are some crackheads here who really think the drugs are good and it's OK if Ross developed a network for that.

"There was no harm done. Nobody will come forward and claim that they were hurt."

let's defense any drug dealer who is using Bitcoin. Anyway Bitcoin is mainly used for illegal things but who cares? the Bitcoin community is "libertarian"  Smiley

They want no gov, no law, no FED Reserve, anonymity BUT they use centralized exchangers who asked them papers, they have a Foundation, they want a regulated "market", protection EVEN they say something else "2 min."  ago Smiley

when you ask them about price manipulation, they say "it's like wild west, we don't care, we like to be fucked by exchangers, we do not want rules"... OK !

BUT if an exchanger is running with their money, they call the police even they want "wild west and no gov, no rules".  LOL






1858  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex exchange owner admits to using inside information to trade on own platf on: January 24, 2015, 01:44:59 AM
well, tben you agree with the price manipulation and to lose the funds as well Smiley

MT gox did that without any problem, All the BIG exchangers are faking the transactions and manipulating the price.

It's so funny to see these videos:  Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRnCuzAOJCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awU8c8fN2LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE5wr0ejWLw

1859  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 23, 2015, 11:45:37 PM
Is the block found by Ghash.io just from CEX or from remote miners using the pool?  If a poretion of the 40 ph that I have heard are still on it is cex then all they did was suspend payments and kept mining for themselves.

you cannot cover the costs for mining with the present BTC price.

this is my question. whose still mining and how can they afford that?
1860  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 23, 2015, 11:29:34 PM
I would like to know how can a miner still earn money with BTC = 230 USD while the biggest "miner" Cex.io closed the business.

Cex.io said that they cannot cover the cost anymore.

Whose are still mining? Who is the biggest miner now?





Where did you read the news?
Can you post the link Plz!

I'm really interested.

I Have a zen cloud contract.
I hope it not will be the next!


here is the link : http://blog.cex.io/news/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

i recommend you to cashout the funds from any existing cloud mining program.
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