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1461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Regulation The End For Bitcoin? on: March 14, 2015, 01:13:57 AM
First, there will be less bitcoiner, since it's regulated
Second, some bitcoin will sell their coins & dropping bitcoin price, since it's better to hold fiat than regulated bitcoin
Third, some bitcoin service will be closed, especially ilegal service Sad

But, i think bitcoin better die than must be regulated

correct. what is VERY strange is that many are very happy that someone exchanges are regulated Smiley

they are either blinds,stupid or kids.

Regulated = reporting to gov, taxes and so on. this is contrary to what BTC goal. Smiley
1462  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Paypal chargeback, for the third time on: March 11, 2015, 04:20:03 PM
a lot of stories about Paypal scams:

http://www.paypalsucks.com/
1463  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning with HitBTC on: March 11, 2015, 12:46:48 PM
Reply from the support :

"we are currently having a technical issue with the transfers to the trading account. Our Technical team is working on this problem, and we will make sure they resolve the issue at the shortest time possible.
Please note that all your funds are kept safe and secure, even though at the moment you cannot see them shown in your Trading account."

I'm not really comfortable with this kind of answer. It seems to be the same story as always in this case.

You should wait for 1-2 days...
1464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: FBI Arrested Teenager For Assisting ISIS Recruitment on: March 10, 2015, 12:31:59 PM
FBI Arrested Teenager For Assisting ISIS Recruitment

A writer for BTC news site Coin Brief for topics that talks about Open Bazaar and Dark Wallet, Amin is said to be charged as a juvenile before authorities could identify his crimes. According to reports, attempts of charging the teenager as an adult is on its way.

http://bitforum.info/t/fbi-arrested-teenager-for-assisting-isis-recruitment/383

Why are this terrorist group getting sympathizers in the bitcoin community?

what does have this with Bitcoin? Nothing Smiley  

This forum became a bazaar instead of what it was meant to be...a BTC forum. How will be the weather in Bahamas?

Why shouldn;t we talk about that as well?  Smiley

Well, first Amin is a member of the Bitcoin Community just like us.
Second, he is a writer of Coin Brief, a BTC news site.
Third, this is the second time this week where a member of the Bitcoin community tries to help someone who are pro-ISIS. (Bryce Weiner)
Whats that to do with the weather in Bahamas?
If you do not find this interesting, you do not have to read.


this forum has around of 400K members. each member has its own private life. This forum is about Bitcoin not about what people are doing in their private lives without any relation with BTC.

It's like you will start talking about car service or cooking because a member is mechanic and other is chef.
1465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: FBI Arrested Teenager For Assisting ISIS Recruitment on: March 10, 2015, 02:54:29 AM
FBI Arrested Teenager For Assisting ISIS Recruitment

A writer for BTC news site Coin Brief for topics that talks about Open Bazaar and Dark Wallet, Amin is said to be charged as a juvenile before authorities could identify his crimes. According to reports, attempts of charging the teenager as an adult is on its way.

http://bitforum.info/t/fbi-arrested-teenager-for-assisting-isis-recruitment/383

Why are this terrorist group getting sympathizers in the bitcoin community?

what does have this with Bitcoin? Nothing Smiley  

This forum became a bazaar instead of what it was meant to be...a BTC forum. How will be the weather in Bahamas?

Why shouldn;t we talk about that as well?  Smiley
1466  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【LakeBTC.com】Bitcoin Exchange on: March 09, 2015, 06:12:42 PM
I think your site can be more concise, the extra text should appear on other niwbies pages.
sure, I don't want to be treated as a rookie when every landing.

this can be, but is not the most important.
To ensure that the trading speed fast, don't be attacked by dddddddddos
ddos is simple and crude, it can't be foreseen and organize effective defense

it costs a lot to have an effective DDOS protection.
1467  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: wiring money to btc-e on: March 07, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
I cannot recommend it at this point. I wire transfer USD $4500 to BTC-E.com back in 1/5/2015, but the fund still is missing from my account. My bank has confirmed that the fund was deposited to the Mayzus Financial Service Limited.  A BTC-E.com ticket # UHV-108-63758 was opened, but the customer service in BTC-E.com insisted that the fund was not received. The last reply was "Banks will continue talk" back on 2/4/2015. Still looking for my money now.  Cry

Solution: ask your bank to trace the funds. yes, it will cost you around of 20-30 USD but it's worth it. You will know where the wire is.
It can be in the correspondent bank or Maysus got the funds. Either ways, you will know what to do. Go ahead Smiley

Thanks a lot. I'm doing it. Not sure what to do next, but it should be a good start...

I told you what to do next. contact your bank and ask them to trace the wire. They will charge you something for that but you will know where the money are.

if the money are with Mayzus Financial Service then, you will have to contact Mayzus Financial Service. If not, you will know what to do...
1468  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scam okpay.com - perfect ewallet for masochists on: March 07, 2015, 08:57:38 PM
For the moment the only answer received is the one from okpay, confirming one more time that they don't want to respect the Hague Convetion regulations on apostiles.
I still await the answer from Mayzus, probably they'll fix it. We'll see.


they said that " it's not done in the right country"...didn't you apostile in your country ?

1)There was not a requirement of a specific country stated by okpay.com. 2 times I asked before doing what they asked.
2)The right country is any country that takes part in the Hague Convention. It is not mentioned otherwise into the Convention nor was mentioned by okpay at the moment of complying with their request.
3)Another confirmation into this direction is the fact that after receiving the documents they stated one country was only good then another country also proved to be ok.



Why don't you ask Okpay about what they really want from you? Try one more time (use few words; maybe they don't understand English well) Smiley
1469  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: March 07, 2015, 08:54:38 PM
This hurts all of us , story after story about people getting burned by irresponsible or fraudulent businesses or individuals.

It's getting better. Really the only 2 companies left selling miners are Bitmain and Spondoolies. Both very good companies. 2015 should be a good year.

not for miners. the price is not good for them
1470  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ███ Stay away from GAWminers.com / Paycoin / Paybase - SCAM ! ███ on: March 07, 2015, 08:53:24 PM
Former GAW Manager: $8 Million ZenMiner Investment ‘A Total Lie’

A former employee of GAW Miners is claiming that the company's previously announced $8m investment in the cloud mining firm ZenMiner never took place.

In a new post on the GetHashing forum, former ZenMiner chief Eric Capuano set forth the allegation, the latest in a string of controversies affecting the mining firm. Capuano is among a number of individuals to depart the company earlier this year.

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-8-million-zenminer-investment-lie/

same thing is happening with almost all these kind of announcement from BTC industry.
1471  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scam okpay.com - perfect ewallet for masochists on: March 07, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
For the moment the only answer received is the one from okpay, confirming one more time that they don't want to respect the Hague Convetion regulations on apostiles.
I still await the answer from Mayzus, probably they'll fix it. We'll see.


they said that " it's not done in the right country"...didn't you apostile in your country ?
1472  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that BitCloudMine is a scam. on: March 06, 2015, 12:55:24 PM
maybe they have the same interior design Smiley

You're joking, right? At least I hope that's what the smilie face means.

That "picture" is a image taken from the video at 4:46 and flipped horizontally.

yes, it is a joke Smiley
1473  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MoneyPolo = SCAM on: March 06, 2015, 12:49:06 PM
MoneyPolo may have a U.K bank account but they are obviously from Russia or one of the ex-soviet CIS countries. All their support staff  is Russian.

And they are NOT a U.K company. They are registered in Cyprus. Cyprus you say? Sounds fishy and it is! Cyprus has lax financial reporting laws.

And the people behind MoneyPollo are called Mayzusfs. If you don't know Mayzusfs was added as a  Mt.Gox payment provider just before the big hack.

Mayzusfs is also the payment processor for OKPAY & BTC-E another two companies that have been linked to organized crime groups


https://www.aihitdata.com/company/016E1DF2/MAYZUSFS/history#main - Why would a legitimate payment processor change address and phone #?

The answer is legitimate businesses never change address 4 times in 8 months. Mayzusfs is obviously a front for organized crime money laundering.

Well, I consider myself MoneyPolo as being shitty too but...legally they are OK.

Cyprus = EU
Many other countries from European Union have lax financial reporting laws. Paypal is registered in Luxemburg. Smiley

http://www.mayzusfs.com/ is a payment processor registered in UK.

https://www.mayzus.com/ is a forex registred in Cyprus.

As payment processor, "you" are processing payments for your clients. If one of your clients is making something not too legal(and you didn't know), it is not your fault.  This is their biz, to work with money.

Also, they can have bank accounts where they want. it can be UK or any other country.

Regarding to the address, any company may change it's office where it wants and when it wants. it's not illegal. yes, it's strange but not out of law.

I don't comment about Okpay and BTC-e. IMO, they are so fishy...

Again, I am not a MoneyPolo fan at all. I know that they are russians and that they make many shits but if someone has  indeed a problem with them, that person should report to MoneyPolo's regulator.



1474  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PAYEER.COM ANOTHER SCUMBAG RUSSIAN SCAM! WARNING!!! DIRTY ROTTEN RUSSIAN SCUM! on: March 05, 2015, 11:18:37 PM
PAYEER.COM ANOTHER SCUMBAG RUSSIAN SCAM! WARNING!!! DIRTY ROTTEN RUSSIAN SCUM!

PEYEER.COM IS RUN BY DIRTY RUSSIAN CRIMINALS. DEPOSITS GO MISSING! CREDIT CARD CHARGED MULTIPLE TIMES! HUGE FEE'S!

PAYEER.COM IS A HUGE SCAM! BE WARNED! THEY SELL YOUR ID SCANS ON UNDERGROUND RUSSIAN CARDER FORUMS!



any proof? the moderator should delete the accusations without proofs
1475  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Marcchernandez scammed me for $500.00 on: March 05, 2015, 11:17:49 PM
Damn dude.. sorry to hear all this. Fuck this guy, I don't know if anyone has reposted his work number yet but here it is: (323) 254-6125

He works at Highland Park Skilled Nursing and Wellness Center.

Once again, feel free to contact me if you need assistance with your case.

He had finally responded some time back saying he will repay as soon as he gets back from work, then again he stopped answering.

Just know that he's still scamming people even up to today. Also, he may have legitimately paid back some people, but for others he has not (and probably will not). It's okay though, there are other people pursuing him right now as we speak so it's just a matter of time.

He paid me back. Still a loss in USD terms but its better than nothing.
https://blockchain.info/tx/9df3c056414caec9acffdec94d7e507aa6097550155ad1d99beb9dc7d378340c

you should edit the whole thread now, including the title. Be a gentleman Smiley
1476  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: !SCAMMER! USER = Richward on: March 05, 2015, 11:16:14 PM
why do you use bad language?
1477  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Terabox "cloud mining service" is SCAM, two week without payments on: March 05, 2015, 05:39:50 PM
Never do cloud mining, you want to mine? Get your own hardware, don't rent on a cloud. Because that's all it is, a cloud, your coins will vanish into thin air.

mining is not reliable now. the hardware costs a lot and you will make profit after years...
1478  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTC-E.com wire transfer problem on: March 05, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
The customer service was not helpful at all. My ticket # UHV-108-63758. It started to ask me for the bank transfer confirmation, then asked me to ask my bank to do the investigation.... Now it said that "banks will continue talk" Huh? Anyone has similar experiences?

ask your bank to trace your wire and then you will see what you have to do
1479  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scam okpay.com - perfect ewallet for masochists on: March 05, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Thank you for your suggestion. I already tried to contact them, I want to have everything in writing so I can paste it in forum and prove what I am saying this is why it's important to get replies in text form.

Sent to info@mayzusfs.com on Mar 2, 2015, 5:55 PM

I've sent it and got no answer from that company. Should I consider that Mayzus Financial Services Ltd is also involved in the scam?

This is my email:

Hello,

I would like information about a company with which you work and provide financial
services on their behalf. The company is okpay.com. I want to file an official complaint
against them and if needed against you as well, depending on the information you advise
below.

1) Are you also responsible for locking funds or it's only okpay.com deciding this ?
2) Can you provide me their official company details so I know in which country I file a
complaint against them? In their site is not mentioned any jurisdiction or actual contact
details. I have only found your company details and I consider filling a complaint against
it if I can't get access to theirs.
3) This company has all my documents and my money and their last request was notarized
documents. I asked them if that's enough and they said it's the current verification step.
I sent them apostiled documents because I thought the are going to ask this after the get
the notarized ones and now they are asking for another set of apostiled documents from
another country? They always change the rules of verification along the way.
Is there anything you can do help me recover the money based on the fact you are their
financial service provider or I have to solve this on my own?

I"VE SENT ONE MORE EMAIL TO THEM A FEW MOMENTS AGO SO I HAVE 2 OPEN TICKETS WITH THEM. HOPEFULLY I'LL GET AN ANSWER SOON.

You won't ever solve your issue on forums. The forums are full of gossips, lies, interests and kids.

I would make a friendly call to Maysus if  I were in your place.

Also, even I consider Maysus as being a shitty company(not scam but shitty), you cannot make any official complaint against them.
Reason: you have not sent any funds to Maysus so they are not responsible for that. Yes, they are processing funds for OkPay but that's all.

That's why I am saying you should call Maysus and talk with them friendly. They are the only ones who can give you a hand now...

1480  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: wiring money to btc-e on: March 05, 2015, 03:53:17 AM
I cannot recommend it at this point. I wire transfer USD $4500 to BTC-E.com back in 1/5/2015, but the fund still is missing from my account. My bank has confirmed that the fund was deposited to the Mayzus Financial Service Limited.  A BTC-E.com ticket # UHV-108-63758 was opened, but the customer service in BTC-E.com insisted that the fund was not received. The last reply was "Banks will continue talk" back on 2/4/2015. Still looking for my money now.  Cry

Solution: ask your bank to trace the funds. yes, it will cost you around of 20-30 USD but it's worth it. You will know where the wire is.
It can be in the correspondent bank or Maysus got the funds. Either ways, you will know what to do. Go ahead Smiley
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