Keep memeing bro, the fork won't stunt decentralization as i have said before because by the time the blocks reach 20mb the storage space on the average computer will scale with it.
Cool story, why does the decision have to be made now though? Because it'll be harder to achieve consensus later? That would simply mean the fork wasn't really needed in the first place. If the fork is actually necessary in the future it should follow that at that point consensus will be easier to achieve? This seems to be quite a fair point actually.. If bitcoin couldnt resist/adapt the increasing number of transactoins, then everybody would agree to raise the limit, or else everybody loose. This would even give us extra time to investigate further and plan several possibilities so we get this right  losing what? |
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it will be a good choice. there will be 2 networks. two prices and so on. there will be many who will not update because they don't want that. |
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it is a shit, Skrill. no customer service. they keep telling you the same "nothing" when you call them. abusive terms like (150 euro fee for closing the account) and so on.
IMO, Skrill is shit
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contact the moderator and ask him to delete it
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For those that didn't see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIZEy5dJ6x4Gavin predicting 'chaos and drama' mentions Bitcoin in the same sentence with 'hightech startups that often fail' You don't even need to read between the lines ... And here we go with chaos and drama hardfork ... he knows better what's "inside" |
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who decide the change? don't tell me "the community", please |
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Bitcoin is inferior coin. No real developement. Very slow.
Only thing it has is that crazy cult in denial of reality around it.
It's the only coin with real VC investment and support. No other coin has the backing, development, investment, and interest of Bitcoin. Not Litecoin, not Paycoin, not NXT, not Ripple, not Darkcoin, not Stellar, not Counterparty, not [insert any alt coin here]... bitcoin the only coin with real venture capital and support? wtf? what have VCs taken over the btc foundation? you do know ripple is like entirely VC? of course VC took over Btc foundation and many big exchanges. BTC belongs to them. http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-elite-meet-secret-island-bilderberg-style-retreat/ |
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when will this "fork" is going to happen?
when "consensus" is reached which will be never ...........no way 100% of people are ever going to agree especially with trolls and fudsters who are just shouting for their own reasons ........ i guess we will have to go with the majority rather because a 100% agreement is impossible if this is implemented in the next version of bitcoin core and people are still using the old version will there effectively be two chains being mined at the same time ? what happens to people who dont follow btc everyday and leave their coins on the old chain which maybe orphaned after the new chain gains momentum ? is there any possibility to lose coins that have been in stored on the "old" chain ?or any risk of transcations being rejected from orphaned to new dominant chain ? so the answer is never. let' close this thread then. it is useless |
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There is no point to cloud mining. Either it is a ponzi in which case it can fold anytime, or it is legitimate which results in a loss.
Best option is to get a miner if there is cheap electricity and mine on its own.
Not true. With stable or rising coin prices cloud mining can be profitable to both the seller and the buyer. Many cloud mining companies used to operate without problems last year, but how would you possibly sustain a business if the material you're producing lost 50% of its value in 2 months and continued to drop. You can do the calcullations for any market product like gold or coal, not only crypto. No real world mine would continue to operate in such circumstances. this is the point. the mining is not profitable anymore so it is doomed. what's next? collapse. |
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when will this "fork" is going to happen?
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So, I know a lot of people are confused or don't even know what the hell is going on with this proposed bitcoin fork.
My biggest question, is, if the fork is implemented, how will 1 side of the fork be differentiated from the other side? Will all previously mined bitcoins become obsolete so to speak? Will it require a new bitcoin client and bitcoin blockchain? What is the limitation of the current block size that would require a bitcoin fork, and will this be the last time it is changed? (obviously some of these questions cannot be definitively answered, such as last time it will need changed) Will this fork increase the total number of bitcoins to be made?
When the fork is coming and you do not update you will be automatically on the MPcoin chain with the smaller blockchain - and everything remains as it is now for you. When you do update you will go to the Gavincoin chain with max. 1000GB storage use in a year on your system. You can actually do both and have the Bitcoins twice. (once on Gavincoin and once on MPcoin) Different exchanges may support Gavincoin, Mpcoin or both - basically Bitcoin will end right there and the chaos that was promised by Gavin will become a reality. Will it be the last change? No, at least not on Gavincoin. Mpcoin could well remain unchanged and thus be the more integer blockchain. On Gavincoin you'd need to brace yourself to hardfork at least twice a year as they intend to make hardforks a habbit. (next time for sidechains and so on) About having coins twice: I think depending to who you send coin on either of the chain they could broadcast the same transaction on the other chain and thus taking your coins on the other chain. So using Bitcoin becomes totally unsafe. I personally predict Mpcoin will survive (with much smaller cap than is now) and Gavincoin plummet to zero after being pumped. (my personal prediction) In any case it is recommended for noobs to stay away from bitcoin alltogether and use altcoins like Litecoin, Dogecoin and others instead to remain safe - or if you must hold bitcoin for the fork: don't move them afterwards. It will be epic chaos and could sink bitcoin, and i think it will. when will this fork happen? |
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LaudaM is one of the worst trashposters on the forum, no shit. Never seen any comment from her that had any value. Not a single substantial or valuable comment, not a single one ever. Only brainless bitcoin follow-the-herd-to-the-moon-shit.
Seriously redundant participant.
Very interesting to hear this from an altcoin shill. It really gets to me, definitely after I've been recently unignored by some of most valuable members in this community.  Bitcoin needs to be canceled. It has nothing to do anymore with the original idea of cryptocurrency.
Is this related to the 'original idea' that Satoshi had or are you referring to someone else? The fork-issue has shown large parts of btc bagholders have become so arrogant they want to get rid of the consensus and don't care anymore about decentralisation
Please quote these bagholders, or are you referring to Gavin? You can't achieve consensus when you let people who are actively against Bitcoin have a say in this. This can't completely be compared to an election, where party x and party y will try to improve something (hopefully). I would like to tell me more about BTC decentralization and how you comment that 5-6 people like Roger Ver, Micky Malka, Erik Voorhees own 90% from BTC http://www.infowars.com/bitcoin-elites-plan-secret-bilderberg-style-confab/ |
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I am wondering why the Bitcoin hardcore does not take any action. Is it not BTC about decentralisation, freedom, no secrets? Try to think a little bit. Who is behind Bitstamp, Coinbase, Kraken, BTC-China, Ripple? Take a look ! Roger Ver, Micky Malka, Erik Voorhees and another 2-3 people. Yes, these people control 90% from BTC They funded all these exchange businesses so they control them. |
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Even if paycoin is still being given out the value of it is dropping like a rock harder than bitcoin is. I think finally most people besides the extreme fanboys finally see GAW for what it is.
it is the same with any ALTcoin... |
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as the price remain in that range more and more company will bankrupt
I think the same. Nobody can mine with this price... |
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personally i won't send my personal information and documents to an online bitcoin exchange, we are in crypto world where we believe in anonymity and sending documents won't keep us anonymous anymore
some exchanges request them because they are regulated or don't want to be charged for money laundering for allowing anonymous accounts
good point. I am wondering why some people when Coinbase said "we are regulated"... If so. they have to report to IRS everything |
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The forums are the customers support for any company. contact them !
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cloud mining cannot be profitable with this price
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