Now you just wait mate , you are not their only customer it usually takes time on website like that (that need your real informations etc ..) "The only catch is that unverified accounts can deposit/withdraw a limited amount of money before being forced to verify their accounts. Verification is done by submitting documents that attest one’s identity and proof of address. Once this verification process is completed, users will again be able to fund their accounts by using one of the many payment methods available such as EgoPay, OKPay, Payza,Perfect Money etc.; request withdraws through corresponding payment gateways, and most importantly – trade cryptocurrencies." If you sent all what they you asked you for , then just chill and wait mate . they will answer you soon . i submit all real info so many peoples said me that this site is not legit.so i want to ask you people again they are legit or not? A lot of people speaks good about this website Virtex & Vimrox ( https://www.virwox.com/ ) , not sure if they are related in anyway due to the simillar names . as far as I know they are legit mate you can see more opinions from other members on this forum (check the links) not sure if there is Canadian & non-canadian of this website , I never tested it my self but I hear of it . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13668.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149909.0bro i am talking about virtex.com they are dead as Egopay. Egopay owned Virtex.com too. Read about Egopay. It seems they were "hacked" or someone ran with the money. either ways is bad. yes, the last one is ugliest Facts: exchangers lost a lot of money. Conclusion: Virtex is showing alive (the charts are working but with fake transactions) but it's dead
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the fanatic bitcoiner
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its been de-listed from the main bitcoin .org site as one of wallets to be used, so im guessing its not safe anymore.
very good observation
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but how are they now? can it be substituted by some others?
now, it's like dead. no exchanger is accepting them. there are large losses.
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so that, i see why i can't deposit on lakebtc via egopay, thanks for your sharing.
LakeBTC didn't come to announce their losses with Egopay. I am wondering why.... Deposits via EgoPay is Currently Unavailable https://www.lakebtc.com/p/7334?locale=enDear Users, It's been reported that EgoPay freezes funds and disables API. Thanks to our top risk management practices, LakeBTC was not, and will not be affected by this incident. Security, liquidity, and fairness are the attributes that make LakeBTC stand out of the crowd, and security comes first. We take security very seriously and invest heavily in technology, risk management, internal controls, firewalls, processes, and compliance to safeguard customers' assets. We do everything in our power to fight online fraud/bitcoin theft, contain market risks, credit risks, operation risks, and policy risks. As a precautionary action, deposits via EgoPay is currently suspended until further notice. Users may continue to use bank wire and Ripple network for deposits and withdrawals. Thank you for choosing LakeBTC.com! LakeBTC Team did you not lose anything?? can't believe of course they lost. it is normal to lose money when a payment system is going down. you cannot operate if you have zero balances this business. sometimes you earn, sometime you lose
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the ponzies are OK if you wanna "play". you can earn money, you may lose....BUT at least you are aware of what you are doing. Example: if you think that the cloud mining is a real business and you put all your earning in a cloud mining, then you can expect (99%) to be burned. Play how much you can afford to lose and it's alright Also, there are normal ponzies (HYIPs) here: http://www.talkgold.com/forum/f261-.html . Most of them are using BTC too.
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not customer's lack of secure behavior.
The other problem is there is no proper definition of what is the "customer's lack of secure behavior". BC might also return funds if the amount is small, what if they get hacked to the tune that Bitstamp got hacked... or even worse Gox? (And yes, I do use them myself... but not for 100% of my coins) be sure they won't pay any BTC back. they will close the business like the wallet Inputs.io, hacked So, the online wallets are hacked often. blockchain.info = online wallet = very possible to be hacked AGAIN as IT WAS in the past. http://www.coindesk.com/good-samaritan-blockchain-hacker-returned-255-btc-speaks/
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Bitcoin's the only scam I ever made money from then.
REAL nerds can make Bitcoin profit regardless the price, either you like it or not.
' yes, you can make money from HYIPs(ponzi). there are many people who are doing that. there is no problem but admit that Bitcoin is only a bubble which it's good to be exploited
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Sh!tcoin, my dear dear friend,
When you argue against Bitcoin, you are by default arguing for the Federal Reserve Note. I am sure you find much merit in the Federal Reserve Note and have many compelling reasons why it is the best form of currency and will never fail. I on the other hand have no idea what those compelling reasons might look like, and this is why I am placing my bets on Bitcoin.
There are zero signs that Bitcoin is failing are will fail in the future. The infrastructure is still functioning and transactions are able to be made and value is able to be stored without the need for a central authority, therefore bitcoin remains as solid an investment today as it did when it was going for $1200.
In the long term, the price is irrelevant, what is really important is the utility. And that is why I am converting as many Federal Reserve Notes I can into Bitcoin. Unless you can give me a compelling reason why Federal Reserve Notes are the superior form of currency and the best way of doing things, then I will continue to convert them into Bitcoin regardless of price fluctuations.
So what is your compelling argument for the superiority of Federal Reserve Notes?
that with USD I can pay ANYTHING I want, ANYWHERE and with Bitcoin you can only buy drugs, hacking tools, fake ids and maybe a t-thirt. Bitcoin has 6 years since it's online and it has up tp 200K active users ! wake up from your dream. A "paid to read emails" website has much more active members than "you" with all your propaganda from media. It is so funny. http://www.donkeymails.com/ = 750,000+ lol
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But as far I know, Blockchain.info never failed to return coins when the loss was due to their own fault, not customer's lack of secure behavior. we do not debate whether Blockchain.info is or not fair. we debate whether the Bitcoin wallets are safe and THEY ARE NOT.
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there is a legit cloud Example : hashnest all the ponzies are paying for a while and the people are earning. i know many people who earned a lot of money from HYIPs . not with cloud mining but with "normal" HYIPs like similars to the ones from above. BUT these clould mining MUST admit what they are, that's all hashnest = HYIP (ponzi)... Bit-x = HYIP (ponzi)
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Yes, free to discuss. Cloud mining = ponzi If they have the spare capacity... Why aren't "they" mining with it and they want to "share"? Clearly, it's more profitable for them to "rent"(scam) you the capacity than to mine themselves. Nonsense claims but nonetheless I will address them. Cloud mining companies (legitimate ones like BIT-X and amhash) rent capacity to provide mining facilities to the average bitcoin user and to receive upfront return on their investment to provide these services. Users who mine can and will ROI. Just like ASIC miner manufacturers, why bother selling their equipment? They want to provide mining services to any user as well as receive an upfront investment return. BIT-X.com has had their partnership with BitFury confirmed. ask how much money is expected to generate a "miner" in 24 hours considering the fact the Bitcoin price is falling. Also, many people would love to see their data center 1 GH/s costs 0.0006 BTC at market rates currently. Feel free to calculate it yourself by clicking on "mining calculator" at the bottom of the main page at https://BIT-X.com. Please visit http://www.bitfury.com/ and do your research with them (they have proven themselves time and time again). Please translate the earnings in USD/month and let me know. Just convert the above earnings (earnings are AFTER fees) with http://preev.com/. I don't find the calculator on bit-x's page. please make the calculation for 1000 usd invested. tell me how much would someone can earn per month.
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Isn't the ECDSA attack possible only when you re-use addresses? I thought that if you always use new addresses you are immune to this type of attack.
I think, if u keep receiving coins then also you are safe. You need to change, only when you are sending. Thanks. Actually, I think it is safest to only receive once as well...The reason being that you have to sign each of the UTXOs. The attacker would have to see your transaction, decipher it, steal your private keys, and then try to double spend it before a miner put it in a block, so it is hard to do, but theoretically possible. blockchain.info was hacked in this way Multibit was hacked too : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1scd2n/914_bitcoins_stolen_from_multibit_wallet/who said that is it safe? it is not safe. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/gentleman-hacker-returns-stolen-bitcoins-blockchain-info/http://www.coindesk.com/good-samaritan-blockchain-hacker-returned-255-btc-speaks/hacker : ""Every bitcoin transaction is signed by two values – 'R' and 'S' – which prove that the sender knows the private key. If the same R value is used twice, the private key can be easily computed from the signatures alone."" and then read this : http://www.coindesk.com/research-hackers-install-backdoor-bitcoin-cold-storage/"Even if the manufacturer claims that it runs open-source code, how do you tell whether it is actually running what you compiled?" Verbücheln said.
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"Waste of time" is right... but sometimes I can't resist:
Bitcoin has lost 90% of its value twice already since 2011 before moving to new highs. We are now approaching -90% from the last high. Idiot OP is either a sock puppet or scared puppy who hasn't sat through the previous two down moves. Grow a sack man
What a piece of useless information... Listen up crackhead - I'm not here to buy your junk crapology, I'm here to rip it to pieces fool Your piece of junk is as corrupt as the system you purportedly tried to fix Now you crackheads are all singing from the same songbook... agree
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all the cloud mining services are Ponzi
this is true. I have no doubts. then you should post in all the Bit-x, Hashnest, KNC Cloud threads about that... the people should be aware that they invest in ponzies. it is ok to do that as long you know what to do
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The following are the bitcoin ASIC manufacturers that provide cloud mining services:
ASICMiner - AMHash BitFury - Bit-x Bitmain - Hashnest KnCMiner - KNC Cloud
CEX.IO does not. They were using BitFury miners.
Could you please provide an average earning per month for a normal cloud miner? let's say that he can "invest" 1000 USD
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Yes, free to discuss. Cloud mining = ponzi If they have the spare capacity... Why aren't "they" mining with it and they want to "share"? Clearly, it's more profitable for them to "rent"(scam) you the capacity than to mine themselves. Nonsense claims but nonetheless I will address them. Cloud mining companies (legitimate ones like BIT-X and amhash) rent capacity to provide mining facilities to the average bitcoin user and to receive upfront return on their investment to provide these services. Users who mine can and will ROI. Just like ASIC miner manufacturers, why bother selling their equipment? They want to provide mining services to any user as well as receive an upfront investment return. BIT-X.com has had their partnership with BitFury confirmed. ask how much money is expected to generate a "miner" in 24 hours considering the fact the Bitcoin price is falling. Also, many people would love to see their data center 1 GH/s costs 0.0006 BTC at market rates currently. Feel free to calculate it yourself by clicking on "mining calculator" at the bottom of the main page at https://BIT-X.com. Please visit http://www.bitfury.com/ and do your research with them (they have proven themselves time and time again). Please translate the earnings in USD/month and let me know.
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you should stop spreading fud i would of fallen for this if people didnt call you out on your bullshit. So many sheeps here. chill out, grandpa. this article is not for you. keep feeding the exchangers(so called shit/anonymous bitcoin brokers) with your money and stay calm For anybody else, please re-read the article. "Both Verbücheln and Pustogarov say that the most likely way for such an attack to be mounted would be through dedicated wallet services running proprietary software. Devices designed specifically for secure cold-storage of coins, for example, would be prime candidates for this sort of attack. "Even if the manufacturer claims that it runs open-source code, how do you tell whether it is actually running what you compiled?" Verbücheln said." For example : what is blockchain.info ? Until then, keep "mehehe" (bitcoin to the shit) like the sheeps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcE5aDTszrY lol
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