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1861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cold storage - HACKED easily on: January 23, 2015, 10:37:22 PM
OP may have just achieved stupidest thread title of the year, just 16 days in. Quite a feat, well done OP.

If at any time you'd like to see evidence that bitcoin cold storage is not hackable, simply click here: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/

If you see a price above 0, cold storage can not be hacked.

well, you can say that you do not agree with me but why am I stupid? because I quoted a very intelligent man, Verbücheln?

yes, anything can be backed including the shit cold wallet. this my opinion. Of course, I can have an opinion regarding to you, Beliathon too but I prefer to not say it in public Smiley

Verbücheln said VERY clear how it can be done.
1862  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There is no consensus on the existance of the foundation on: January 23, 2015, 10:30:55 PM
Bitcoin and crypto in general is driven by consensus. A good coin wouldn't breach consensus with the userbase. The existance of the foundation is a breach of consensus. There is no consensus for the foundation. Why should it exist when there is no consensus for it?


they all need quick money. why do you think they made that foundation? they got a lot of funds from "sharks" and together can manipulate the market.

that Foundation exists because you let it to talk in your behalf. Smiley

raise your voices when you hear someone from "Foundation" talking a lot of shits in press. tell to that shit press that Foundation doesn't represent the Bitcoin community.

the Foundation has the "power" because you gave it to them....but you can take it back anytime
1863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Campaign to BOYCOTT BITCOIN! on: January 23, 2015, 10:27:33 PM
Is this real?

Yes, it's real. I'm fed up with bitcoin after 2014 and this month! I know a crypto doesn't have to perform this poor. Bitcoin is a true shitcoin with that inflation.

Bitcoin markets are raped by this constant bleeding and the fools still try to pump it! Pumping bitcoin is futile! So now all of crypto needs to die because Bitcoins' miningreward schedule was designed by a bunch of amateurs? Hell, no. Just burn it! Burn it with fire!


the cancer is the exchangers(their shareholders) who have smelled the fresh meat, Bitcoin. Smiley

I am not sure why the miners are not going to altcoin. they preferred to closed their business instead. Anyaway, I am still wondering who is still mining now...the costs cannot be covered.
Bitcoin is a shit. I agree with that Smiley
1864  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 23, 2015, 07:49:35 PM

I would like to know how a miner can still earn money with BTC = 230 USD while the biggest "miner" Cex.io closed the business.

Cex.io said that they cannot cover the cost anymore.

Whose is still mining? Who is the biggest miner now?





If you can get free electricity, ming cost is close to zero... think about that.

how can you get free electricity for a mining farm which normally cost around of 7000 USD per day?? Smiley

I am referring to the real mining farms not clouding or ponzi. Who is the biggest miner now?
1865  Economy / Service Discussion / minering - how is it STILL possible? on: January 23, 2015, 07:22:27 PM
I would like to know how can a miner still earn money with BTC = 230 USD while the biggest "miner" Cex.io closed the business.

Cex.io said that they cannot cover the cost anymore.

Whose are still mining? Who is the biggest miner now?



1866  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Virtex is SCAM. Don't deposite money there. Don't trade there. on: January 23, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
mayax hi, you are right about payza, but about last statement, why you are telling it doesn't care who stole money,
it cares a lot, because only when you know who stole money, only then you can take it back, isn't it? How the hell is possible
in this world to get back money from persons who got conflict with Tadas and was fired? I am talking about Tomas and Paulius.
Also company who did marketing, you think they knew that Tadas and Mantas will scam people? I don't think so.

People here are looking for responsible person who stole money and few poeple talking like: maybe he, maybe another guy or that
marketing company or Dalai Lama. STOP BULLSHITING for got sake. Please read forums, everyone knows that Tadas Kasputis - owner
and Mantas Gustys - CEO were controlling everything at the end and scammed people. Why scammed? because it was shitty project and
all money were coming from egopay. No egopay? = no virtex. Kapish?

tonybark, I know about that.Chill out !

I only told you how the most of the people are thinking.... They want the money back and they are blaming everybody who worked for Egopay even most of the exployees have NO fault

I am not thinking like them  Smiley

I am sure that Tomas and Paulius has NO fault.

The people should ask Payza to give the money back Smiley
1867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 23, 2015, 07:07:21 PM
child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality ! Smiley

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ? Smiley  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying Smiley

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.


I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.


I gave an example about child porn. Bitcoin industry is full of people like you and full of morons, scammers, shitheads, drug delears.

 How can you say that drug dealing is NOT violent, crackhead? Did you take some pills today?

" Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental"

Drug dealing is violent (emotional or mental). It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives. Ulbrich developed a website for this thing(selling drugs) and he EARNED a lot of money.




Are you sure you're not on drugs right now? Did I ever mention drug dealing at all? But I think I get what you mean. You were saying that if people think drug dealing isn't violent, then that must mean child porn isn't violent as well, both of which you agree are violent.

I recommend you to read again what ivonna said above, crackhead.

"You need to accept that there will be drug trade regardless of if it is on the streets, over the internet (or over tor), if it is illegal or if it is legal.

The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent. This compared to notoriously violent drug trade that takes place on the streets.

I think it is fair to say that reducing violence in the world is a contribution to society "



I made an irony about that, crackhead Smiley
1868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ross Ulbricht faces a potential life sentence starting tomorrow. on: January 23, 2015, 07:03:18 PM
child porn is non violent through internet too (also it's using Bitcoin)..... with other words, you agree with it... what mentality ! Smiley

I don't wonder why Bitcoin has a such a BAD press lately.

 Ross Ulbricht created SilkRoad and earned millions from it by using BITCOIN shit. it's a fact.

Now, few mentally diseased people are saying that Karpeles is in fact the owner based on a testimony where a cover agent said "DHS Believed Mt. Gox CEO Might Have Been Silk Road’s Secret Mastermind"

Believed = FBI thought this thing BUT they investigated further and they found the real kingpin, Ross Ulbricht. That's why it's called investigation; to search for evidences.

Why would FBI arrest Ross Ulbricht and not Karpeles ? Smiley  

Why would't arrest both of them if they are related?  It was very easy for FBI and Interpol to do that.

You really are obsessed with bringing up child pornography frequently, yet calling other people weirdos...? Please go away. Your arguments are nonsensical and rather creepy in nature

I quoted "The drug trade that took place on silk road (as well as trade that took place over similar darknet sites) was non-violent."

If drug dealing is not violent and it is accepted(as someone said), then let's accept child porn too because it's non-violent. it's a total madness what some people are saying Smiley

Drug dealing is violent. It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives.


I agree with iGotSpots. Your argument is child porn is not violent. Well you're entirely wrong. Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental as well in case you didn't know and, taking advantage of a child like that can lead to heavy emotional damage to them(the spreading and taking of pictures). If you feel that you display pedophilic tendencies, mayax, please see a trained therapist or psychiatrist where you can work on your empathy(Placing yourself in someone else's situation) and more.


I gave an example about child porn (Bitcoin is used by many psychopaths to pay for such things) which is not physical violent.

 Bitcoin industry is full of people like you, fanatics(who only see Bitcoin in front of their eyes without thinking at all) full of morons, scammers, shitheads, drug delears.

 How can you say that drug dealing is NOT violent, crackhead? Did you take some pills today?

" Violence is not only physical, it can be emotional or mental"

Drug dealing is violent (emotional or mental). It brings death, it brings nightmares over families and it ruins lives. Ulbrich developed a website for this thing(selling drugs) and he EARNED a lot of money.


1869  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Virtex is SCAM. Don't deposite money there. Don't trade there. on: January 23, 2015, 06:52:16 PM
you see richana ? Smiley

I told you that Payza and Egopay are the same. Now, someone who worked for Egopay is saying the same thing. Do you need more proves?

Tomas, I understand your position and I agree that you are not involved in this shit.

Try to understand that many, many people are angry and frustrated because they lost a lot of money with them and these people are trying to recover the funds or to find the truth.

Someone stolen their funds. They do not care if you, Tadas, Fidel Castro, Dalai Lama or Payza. They want the money back IF possible Smiley

1870  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Insane: Bitfinex exchange owner admits using insider information to trade on: January 23, 2015, 06:46:14 PM
This has been addressed in the bitfinex thread and does not constitute insider trading at all IMO. Insider trading would be if bitfinex higher-ups traded in bitfinex stock, but that's not what's happening here. Bitcoins are fungible and are traded all over the place, there's not much difference between a Bitfinex admin trading on Bitfinex or on any other exchange.

If there were proof that bitfinex admins were front running or manipulating the trading engine to their own advantage, that would be a completely different story. But merely trading on their own exchange is a non-story as far as I'm concerned.


Please see here: Smiley

They are manipulating the trading engine to their own advantage.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660948.0;all

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t3p7f/xpost_from_rbitcoinmarkets_bitfinex_cso_phillip_g/

www.google.com/search?q=bitfinex+front+running+site:reddit.com

www.google.com/search?q=bitfinex+front+running+site:bitcointalk.org
1871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmaszyna.pl exchange - 400 000 PLN (~ 100 000 USD) money laundering on: January 23, 2015, 06:43:52 PM
Not sure if this wasn't posted here (search is down) but someone tried to launder 400 000 PLN, which roughly equals 100 000 USD using Polish exchange Bitmaszyna. He managed to buy unknown sum of BTC using illegal funds and in result bank account of some bitcoin sellers are blocked  Angry

More info in Polish: https://forum.bitcoin.pl/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=14465&start=280

it will have as result that all the polish banks will avoid customers who are dealing with Bitcoin Smiley
1872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cold storage - HACKED easily on: January 23, 2015, 06:19:12 PM
I am actually afraid of keyloggers when using online hot wallets because most of the time people use this service.
Then you should use an online wallet service that offers 2FA and get the confirmation code sent to your mobile phone. That way a keylogger won't work unless they steal your phone and you also have the added extra of getting notified by sms if someone else logs into your account.

or you don't use Bitcoin for storing your funds. you convert it to cash and you can only keep a small amount just for speculating it Smiley
1873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cold storage - HACKED easily on: January 23, 2015, 05:17:11 PM
I am actually afraid of keyloggers when using online hot wallets because most of the time people use this service.

Try Trusteer Rapport - https://www.trusteer.com/ and read about it here http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/trusteer-rapport.  It will bog your computer down, somewhat. And it is not compatible with some firewalls. But if you can work your way around these two problems, it seems to be something that is very valuable. Many banks are trusting it.

Smiley

Yes, the cost is be prohibitive for any small-medium company Smiley
1874  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Another Cloud miner CLOSED - ZeusHash on: January 23, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Last time it's cex.io than we see zeushash closed
Let's see how many cloud mining companies will closed their service

This is bad for anyone who haven't got ROI from cloud mining

cex closed because of low bit coin prizes
others closed because they have ponzi system..
they are different..


I am curious who is still "mining" considering the fact that a company cannot earn from this activity anymore. it can only lose Smiley
1875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love bitcoin but there are some concerns (zero difficulty in the early days) on: January 23, 2015, 04:26:41 PM
these things are the only concerns for me to not put the remaining of my life savings into bitcoin.

Only these things?! Please do not put your remaining life savings into bitcoin... Please.

Lol, a newbie giving advice Grin Grin Good one.

are you an expert or what? have you discovered the internet in 2009 and you are a "legendary hero"? lol

Expert in misleading the people that the Bitcoin shit is a very good investment ?Smiley

Do not keep your money in BTC.

Play how much you can afford to lose. BTC world is "owned" by a gang , called "exchangers" (look o their shareholders and you will see that all of them are connected).

They need new fools to put money in their shit. These exchangers have connections in media (paying many so called reporters) and they are making a buzz about how great is Bitcoin.

BTC = up to 200K active users and around of 700K overall. It's NOTHING compared with any other e-currency which btw, didn't have a such media.

Yes, take advantage of it(if you can), speculate it and nothing more. Keep you money in other investments, don't be a child to believe all you read. There are many fanatics, BTC evangelists who will even say BTC is my God just because they earn few pennies.

 People not rooted in reality (aka shills) seem to never want to argue the true points of bitcoin and its pitfalls, while only acknowledging and hyping it's positives, completely dismissing any sound feedback (and ironically, labeling any voices of reason as 'trolls' or 'bears.') 

1876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin startup GAW Miners reportedly under SEC investigation on: January 23, 2015, 04:04:05 PM
Haha 1000 pages of a leaked file??? I'm glad that an obscure bitcoin newsgroup was able to find them 

who is not obscure in bitcoin? Smiley
1877  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Virtex is SCAM. Don't deposite money there. Payza do publicity to this site. on: January 23, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
Hello, my name is Tomas Andzelis. I was hired by Tadas Kasputis to help him develop his business, so i did helped with marketing, seo and adwords part. On october 2014 i have left the company and i stated that on my linkedin. Please stop using my name with refferences as criminal, feel free to contact me
skype: javiukas
email: tanzelis@gmail.com

Unfortunately, not many people will understand that you are not associate with egopay anymore and they will keep mention your name.

The people who lost their money in Egopay and then in Virtex are very annoyed and I am sure you can understand
1878  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex exchange owner admits to using inside information to trade on own platf on: January 23, 2015, 12:43:18 PM
LOL, I can bet every exchange involve  insider trading.

Yes but is it ok to manipulate the price as they want? Smiley

Keep pumping money in them, fools Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660948.0;all

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t3p7f/xpost_from_rbitcoinmarkets_bitfinex_cso_phillip_g/

www.google.com/search?q=bitfinex+front+running+site:reddit.com

www.google.com/search?q=bitfinex+front+running+site:bitcointalk.org
1879  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 21, 2015, 09:08:25 PM
I never thought that this image would be relevant again. Gave me some good laughs two weeks when Paycoin was dropping to hell.



you can say the same for all not only for Paycoin.
1880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cold storage - HACKED easily on: January 21, 2015, 05:56:08 PM
The solution is in the article itself:

Quote
Another counter-measure would be to strictly not use any address more often than once.

Also the following statement in the article is endorsed by Captain Obvious:

Quote
there is only one conclusion to draw from this
problem: Users cannot trust any implementation of ECDSA or Bitcoin, which they cannot fully verify

And "Easily" is very subjective. How easy is it to compromise a cold storage wallet? -> If the answer is easy then you're doing it wrongtm.

the answer is "easy" when you know what you are doing.

And who knows how to do this exactly?

And please don't say Stephan Verbücheln, because he's the one that wrote the damn paper.   Cheesy

Please lock this thread.

many other people know a lot about cryptography. Verbücheln is only one of them. Stay chill, you will find out soon that cold wallets were hacked.
MT gox wallet was hacked too Smiley
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