This is what the SEC is for, if you want regulation then go cry to Uncle Sam to do it to save Grandma. I personally don't want any form of regulation but if we're going to have it, better an army of licensed bureaucrats than a bunch of neckbeard monkeys sitting in front of their computer wearing a Guy Fawkes mask.

What coin isn't a P&D at this point anymore really.

Call it crazy but I think it could push even higher than the 1st pump over a month ago, before it was hype built purely on speculation, now that the airdrop has been proven to be legit there is no reason it can't at least return to .1 btc

"Never let a good crisis go to waste"

Let's prove these Operation scamcoiners and doubters wrong and push AUR back to its true value!

The problem is miners can mine any coin all day but if there is no market for it, the coin will go nowhere. Myriad is a good example, millions are being pumped into the market but the end users don't think it is worth much.

I can see in principle why some support ASICs because if you want to make serious money, then you should heavily invest in the hardware to do so, if you work in any kind of graphic, 3d or motion video industry you know investing in new equipment is a cost of doing business...

That being said though, the companies that make these ASICs are con artists. I guarantee you it is costing them very little to manufacture these chips and they are probably all sitting on palette jacks right now by the thousands yet they bullshit you with their shady "preorders" and telling you you won't receive them for months down the road. Worst, many want to be paid in Bitcoin, so you are potentially selling them 100k worth of future money for 10k today. How anyone who can whine about "scamcoins" yet support these hucksters is beyond me.

Ask yourself when have you ever preordered a videocard 6-12 months in advance? You don't because you know by then it will be outdated. Personally I wish a respectable company like AMD or Nvidia would get in the game themselves and undercut these guys.

Some people on the Mintpal thread seem to be gloating about BC volume falling and Mint gaining. Personally I want to see both coins succeed but to do that we need to have faith in BC and not dump at every little manipulator who comes by!

You know the irony is if people like BCX didn't exist to attack security holes we wouldn't have to worry about it. Hackers are the bottom feeders of society and I wish more was done to round them up and put them away in federal prison for years. It's totally backwards thinking to suggest that if you want to trade in a coin, you should be mining to protect it as well. I guess if I want to use a Windows PC I should also be learning C++ and contributing daily to AVG or Norton on what viruses are out in the wild too?

I have no desire for anything because I don't own any AUR, my only desire is to expose Operation Shitcoin as being a den of liars, cheats, hackers and sociopathic teenage boys that they are.

Look, at the end of the day, the Aurora dev came through on his promise and started delivering the coins. I like how the goal post has been moved from, "The dev is going to run off with and dump the premine" to "The dev and his supporters didn't secure the block chain"

What will it be next week if AUR continues to hang on or rises? I don't own any AUR but I respect a man of his word, I bet not one single member of this Operation Scamcoin cleanup would have the integrity to sit on a valuable premine and not cash out.

I question how many of these shitcoin crew are over the ages of 14-20 personally.

Is it possible for you to not talk like a 14 year-old for more than 5 minutes?

Show me the section of criminal code that making a lazy clone coin and trying to profit it off it is criminal either but it doesn't stop you all from calling them scammers or crooks.

I think it is just called being human. Why would people leave millions of dollars of Bitcoin lying around on an exchange like Mt Gox for instance? Humans think they are invincible or nothing bad could ever happen to them. Why do you think it is so difficult to force young people to go buy health insurance? Are they trying to scam society by getting by for free or is it because they think they are healthy and won't get majorly sick?

Well at least you are fair, because a lot of posters on here seem to define a scamcoin as anything that wasn't first out the gate to mimic Bitcoin.

Considering most of all these coins are clones of Litecoin can we safely call Litecoin a scamcoin then?

Sorry but I don't believe in this logic. You can't go before a court of law and declare, "Your honor, I am entitled to this stolen property because John Doe left their front door unlocked", it doesn't excuse the criminal behavior in itself.

Exactly, which is why more and more people are viewing Bitcoin as a commodity, not a currency. If it were a true currency, I shouldn't have to spend 50 grand in mining hardware and electricity just to get as many coins as what someone mined on their $300 computer 3 years ago.

This is all the same logic blackhat hackers use to justify their behaviors

"Well if you're security wasn't so poor, we wouldn't have stolen from you"

I guess if I leave my car unlocked I deserve to have things stolen from me. Gotcha.

Look this all goes over my head, I'm not a miner, nor am I a programmer, I barely understand the technological basics of Bitcoin as it is. But as an INVESTOR, stuff like this does not give me confidence in crypto in general. Knowing I could make an investment in a coin that could be wiped out overnight by petulant man children is scary to me, at least with the shitcoins I recognize the risk, can research the origins and make an educated decision on whether I want to put my money there. But stuff like this, all it takes is a day or two of some tribal conflict to make things go sour within hours.

Your crew says I should go invest in Bitcoin or LTC because they are "the first" and "the best", well sorry but if the future of Bitcoin is going to be run by you guys, i'll take the Jamie Dimons of the world over this sociopathic behavior.

This all feels more like a game of Quake with team red v.s team blue playing games with people's money and savings.