I tried to reach out to the Sync guys about taking over Palestinecoin since they were doing a fund raising for a Palestinian programmer but no one would listen to me.

Agreed, CANN has more potential to bring in outside investors than 95% of these alt coins.

Crypto is a dirty game, whales laugh and will force every weak hand out and cap a rise because they have all the patience in the world. Viacoin is a perfect example of this, in theory a coin being worked on by Peter Todd should have gone to the moon overnight but it didn't.

People need to understand the dev doesn't literally need 70 million grams of weed for the price to reflect it, it just needs the speculative value. You think the US dollar's value or any other nation's currency is backed just on the 1:1 assets the US government owns for instance?

The backing is just a support structure for a broader real-world use currency, this makes more sense than giving a billion dollar valuation to Litecoin for instance just because it was Bitcoin with a scrypt algo.

Initially going by the headlines you'd think it was another one of those wackjob religious parents who put their son's life in "god's hands" but instead they did it to pursue the newest and most advanced treatment available for their kid.

If we were like China we would have ran the protesters over with tanks.

One could argue Bitcoin is a NSA trojan horse to do all the exact same things you mention about the government having a permanent record of all your transactions. Better dump your BTC now.

If it was a scam why is he still promoting it? He's not making any money. Is Potcoin a scam because it claims to be the "official" currency of the cannabis industry, or is it just overexcited marketing by fudging words a little, big difference.

Also a statement from one of the Lakota tribe's lawyers did come out after all the fud drama indicating they knew about Maza but were exploring it further, sounds more like politics got involved than Payu out in the wilderness making a coin in secret. Also if you read anything you'd know originally the initiative was to bring Bitcoin to the tribes as well but that would mean they'd have no sovereign control of the currency hence the birth of Mazacoin.

Also go tell the Ecuador president his plans for a digital currency is the last of their dreams too since a good portion of Ecuador's population is made up of poor natives with no electricity.

Sorry but some things do not deserve anything it's called basic decency. Payu Harris from Mazacoin didn't deserve to be called a crack smoker or a deadbeat dad because he made a coin that some people did not like or wanted cheap. People here were absolutely vicious and drove that coin into the ground, it was sad. However he continued to fight on and was interviewed just 3 weeks ago by Newsweek and has a Mashable.com documentary of his journey premiering in October. What "scam" developer would go to all this trouble even when their coin is worth almost nothing?

In my book all the work he's done he "deserves" to have a top 10 coin at least but I guess that's just my opinion too.

I sense the same pattern with Uro, many people feel threatened by it and beyond the fudders just wanting cheap coin, I arguably think there are other people who absolutely want it to fail because it takes money away from their daily pump and dumps. XC was another good example of a hateful fud campaign because it represented a threat to Darkcoin. How ironic though Dark would be taken down not by XC but all these endless anon gimmick coins coming out of the woodwork every day.

My "opinion" is when things traverse into the territory of someone picking up the phone and calling someone on the other end "scamming cunts" like Chang that just screams crazy. I've been conned by alot like Carsen Klock but I'm not going to get on the phone with him and argue with him because he cost me 50 bucks.

The claim by truthful was Clifton Tang was made up or did not exist, I countered with verifiable evidence that would hold up in a court of law that not only is he NOT made up but he worked/works for a company that shares the same address as GES. I mean really what are the odds of Coinosaur getting an email and pulling a random name out his ass and having these details match up?

This is what I mean by pure insanity, you are like the guys claiming Bohan was photoshopped, do you know how elaborate this whole complex scheme is? Have you seen how simple crypto scams are? Why are all the other ones busted easily with a simple google search and one sloppy mistake somewhere blowing the whole thing yet in this case for the thing to be a setup, years of digital back history back even before Bitcoin had to be planted, Nilesh is jet setting around the world bankrupt with 10 dollars in his pocket getting selfies taken with the dictator of Fiji and employees in Egypt and Hong Kong, all of Bohans 2 year old youtube videos of him narrating over his HD camera footage is not real, all these official government documents pulled from government websites is not real, Rivaa exports is not real, Indian Potash Limited is not real, not even the 9/11 conspiracy theories are now this mammoth.

And you can call it fishy all you like niothor but a company who has a history of fraud also has a history of complaints as well. I challenge you to find me any complaint online calling GES a scam. Just one.

I hope this Iran video comes out and its the Ayatollah himself on film declaring all crypto other than Uro is sinful, but even then you'd probably still say, "Hmm....I still don't know....scam."

And of course should I not forget how the goal post keeps moving in all of this, at first it was GES was fake, Bohan stole the company's website from Nilesh and faked it all, then the Nilesh video came out (LOL) and the fud had to change to Nilesh is bankrupt or GES is going to screw farmers over, nothing will please you lot.

You will never be satisfied.

Niothor no offense but I feel like I'm living in crazy land with you. So because some guys linkedin says "past experience" you are going to disregard official tax and street documents? Maybe the guy left and came back and was too lazy to change his linkedin, who knows, but what does it matter, how did Coinosaur know to look up this Clifton Tang specifically to craft a fake email? Especially a guy who seems to have a vested interest in fudding to begin with. It's like all the morons who called the Rivaa emails fake even though it came from a proven employee name available on Rivaas website and then finally we had to wait for Rivaa themselves to put it on their website and by then people were like /yawn

Do people not apply Occam's Razor anymore, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.

The addresses are the same, just phrased differently

Sovereign Groups address is

Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre

GES HK's address is

Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong

Get it, its the same thing, it is the 16th floor of this building and suites 1-3, aka 1601-1603. Also Sovereign is listed as their tax rep on their HK license documents.


You mean like that "scammy" corporation Burger King moving its tax base to Canada?

Also is anyone who is into crypto have any room to talk about finding ways to hide or shield money from the taxman? And I should think an international corporation with branches around the world would deem it necessary to hire a firm to manage multiple tax responsibilities in various nations.

So is Coinosaur lying about getting the email then?

Still doesn't change the fact Sovereign Group is tied to GES, the paperwork and address proves this.

Clifton Tang

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/clifton-tang/4/4a8/b00

Business Development Manager / Consultant
Sovereign Trust (Hong Kong) Limited

He even gets an endorsement from Wallace Chau,  Corporate Executive at Bang & Olufsen HK. Bang & Olufsen, one of the biggest audio companies in the world...

http://www.sovereigngroup.com/files/sovereign_report/SovReport38opt.pdf

"In Singapore, our office continues to expand and again we are in final negotiations to purchase a fully licensed Singapore company. More on this will appear in the next addition. In Hong Kong, we have appointed several new consultants including John McGale, a New Zealand-qualified trust and company expert lawyer, Yuseff Murphy who moved from our Abu Dhabi office, and Clifton Tang."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Group

Sovereign Group is a Gibraltar based corporate services company funded in 1987. Sovereign's core business is setting up and managing tax-efficient structures to assist wealth management, foreign property ownership and cross-border business. The Sovereign Group has offices or agents in most major offshore and onshore financial centres worldwide.

The company mostly provides fiduciary services to high net worth individuals and their families, Sovereign’s clients include expatriates, entrepreneurs and businesses of all sizes. Sovereign also offers a wide range of services that are natural adjuncts to their main activity, including asset management, financing, specialist tax advice and credit cards.

Howard Bilton, a tax lawyer, is the chairman of the Sovereign Group. Bilton was responsible for setting up the Sovereign Art Foundation which runs both the Sovereign Asian and European Art Prize, turning his art-collecting hobby into what is now Asia’s largest art prize."

What is the street address for Sovereign Group?

Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre
32 Hollywood Road, Central
Hong Kong

What is the street address for GES HK?

Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong

And who is on the name of GES's Hong Kong tax documents along with address?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/235214148/PS300016750373-01-Annual-Financials-2013-Amended

Sovereign Secretaries (HK) Limited! With the same Kinwick Centre address.

So ladies and gentleman, if Clifton Tang is doing bitch work answering trolling emails for GES and representing their services, what does that tell you about the size and financial scope of GES?

The only oddity is Tang's linkedin says he left Sovereign last year but perhaps he came back or still does services for them.

I believe it was already set up for 106 million coins and the dev planned to fork it to 420 million but now decided not too, hence no fork required now.

So max supply is 106 million now not 420 million?

I think DPR is even more nefarious than Walter White.

My my, aren't we snippy


Pubic meeting? No thanks, already been fucked by scam coins enough as it is.

GES isn't no but Bohan is an active player involved with the exchange, no mysteries here.

Really, 2 months of FUD in now on GES/Bohan and you're going to pretend you don't know who is behind URO lol