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1401  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Zionist shills on reddit on: August 01, 2014, 09:31:36 PM

What is shilling is passing off a website that is 80% propaganda against Israel and the "Jewish banker" conspiracy that is as old as time itself as a "veterans site."
1402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SDC] ShadowCoin | PoS with PoW distribution | ShadowChat P2P EM System on: August 01, 2014, 08:27:05 PM
Nice work Frigga

Also this just came out

http://computerstories.net/bittorrent-introduces-secure-communication-service/

I'm all for high-level encrypted messaging and it is a nice FEATURE for a wallet to have, but does it make a currency worth anything? Not particularly IMO.
1403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloakcoin's PoSA is not a trustless system for anonymous transaction on: August 01, 2014, 07:51:43 PM
Is Monero more secure than CLOAK?

This is what makes me think the alt world is truly mad as a hatter. We have a proven WORKING anon that is untraceable and people still keep acting like we are still searching for the holy grail elsewhere.
1404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel's Crazy Doctrine for Justifying Deaths of Over 1,000 Gazans on: August 01, 2014, 07:44:16 PM

This doesn't seem like a war to me - it seems like a slaughter. You're equating the two sides as if they are on equal terms, which is far from true. I mean, the best one side is capable of, is launching a bunch of small, unguided rockets at the other side's civilian population, killing 3, last I checked; the other side is attacking them with artillery, warships, and airstrikes, devastating a densely populated area, and killing over 1400 people.

So I ask again, don't you think there are better ways to deal with this? Is this the right approach to solve the conflict?

So here we get to the root of everything. Obviously we know Israel has a big, bad army they've built up over the last 40 years...so why does Hamas continue to lob rockets when they know most Israelis are hiding underground and know Israel will respond with massive retaliation? Isn't this irresponsible and reckless?

Or is it because they do it knowing Israel will accidentally kill civilians shooting back and it becomes a great PR move for Hamas. I honestly don't know why Israel falls for it personally. I think they should just build their walls higher, strengthen the iron dome's capabilities, hide behind it and laugh.
1405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel's Crazy Doctrine for Justifying Deaths of Over 1,000 Gazans on: August 01, 2014, 07:32:50 PM

Ebola isn't an army killing civilians. by your same broken logic, Jew Holocaust is not a genocide because Plague or Cholera killed more than what Hitler did.

And i'm saying even 1,400 people doesn't constitute the definition of genocide. At least 120k have been killed in Syria in this current civil war. 415 people were murdered in Chicago last year. How is 1,400 out of a population of millions considered genocide?

The Palestinian population has a whole has been RISING the last few decades, how is that genocide?

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/files/1-israeli-palestinian-images/west-bank-and-gaza-strip-arab-population-1948-to-2005.gif



It's these silly use of buzz words that complicate the debate.
1406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel's Crazy Doctrine for Justifying Deaths of Over 1,000 Gazans on: August 01, 2014, 07:13:48 PM

How exactly does bringing up the wars of 1948 or 1967 help solve the conflict that is going on now? Are you trying to justify the killing of 1400 people and the survival of the rest being jeopardized, based on what happened over half a century ago?

Well Palestinians still fight based on the belief a 1,300 year-old mosque that Muhammed supposedly ascended to heaven at entitles them to the land. It's all a centuries-old conflict and both sides don't forget the past.

Anyway I don't justify the deaths of civilians but it is not in Israel's interest to purposely kill civilians. The tragedy is they fall for Hamas's trap because it is easy for Hamas to throw up a random photo of any dead child on twitter, send it out, pass it off as a victim of Israeli bombing and people get emotional about it. It doesn't matter if the kid died in Syria, Iraq or Gaza, people like to believe what they want to believe to confirm their own personal biases.

War is a tragedy but I challenge anyone to find a war where innocent people don't get caught in the cross fire. What matters is which side does more to protect their own people from being collateral damage and there has never been any evidence Hamas does anything to protect their people. If they did they'd be building bomb bunkers instead of smuggling tunnels. Meanwhile Israel has built the Iron Dome AND a network of bomb shelters for their people, yet people ask why it is no Israelis get killed in the rocket fire...
1407  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jury: Ventura Verdict - Wins $1.84 Million on: August 01, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
I'm not sure its legal for a judge to order a jury to come to one conclusion and deny them the option of a hung jury. That said I think a hung jury is the best solution. it lets ventura's ego off the hook  without taking money from the widow. It does however show that the deposition which some accused of being lies because "they didn't remember and if you can't remember you're lying" wasn't as powerful as some had thought it would be for ventura.
If her husband illicitly gained the money by slandering Ventura, why does his widow deserve his money? Jessie Ventura served as well, not just as a Navy SEAL, but as a governor. Why is his service less important because he is a public figure? You may or may not like Jessie Ventura, but this is clearly a slander campaign and I hope Ventura gets the result he is looking for. I remember when this whole ordeal originated, Kyle went all over talk shows calling Ventura out. I have a hard time believing any former Navy SEAL would say such things. Also people forget there was a rumor he would run for president at the time as a VP to Ron Paul. That is plenty of incentive to slander Ventura in an attempt to ruin his political aspirations.

Actually Chris Kyle's book wasn't selling at all and he brought out the whole story of him punching out Ventura on the national TV circuit to pump up interest and it worked.
1408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel's Crazy Doctrine for Justifying Deaths of Over 1,000 Gazans on: August 01, 2014, 05:48:34 PM

Don't you think it's a completely disproportionate response though? Some Israelis get killed, and in retaliation they kill over 1400 Palestinians (80% civilians, 30% children), wound many thousands, and destroy a good chunk of Gaza, including infrastructure they depend on to live. Does this seem like the right response to you?

Wasn't it disproportionate in 1948 when to settle a quarrel between Jews and Palestinians on who gets a piece of the pie of the UN partition plan, the ENTIRE Arab world gathers their armies and moves in to Palestine to try and finish the job Hitler started?

Or when they tried to do it AGAIN in 1967 and lost both times?

The Palestinians problem is largely the fault of the Arab world, because in Israel's mind their occupation of Gaza and West Bank was not to protect themselves against Palestinians but to defend themselves from an entire region that wanted to wipe them out. Ironically though now these same Arab states are on Israel's side now because they recognize the fanaticism of Hamas and Iran taking over the middle east is worse than their hatred for Israel.
1409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Zionist shills on reddit on: August 01, 2014, 05:42:24 PM

It happened today.  Two Israelis killed, one more captured.  I heard it was a suicide bomber that killed the two, but it looks like that part is unconfirmed.  It happened 1.5 hours after the cease fire was put into effect.

The "beautiful" (use that sarcastically) thing about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is it usually flairs up again every 10-15 years or so which brings in a whole new generation viewing the conflict from the outside with no perspective. I'm sure a big portion of the bitcointalk crowd are in their teens or early 20s and have no memories of Hamas militants strapping on bombs and randomly walking into pizza parlors or getting on buses and blowing themselves up taking out innocent men, women & children. And what did they do it for, bizarre beliefs they will have a heavenly garden and 72 virgins waiting for them.
1410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel's Crazy Doctrine for Justifying Deaths of Over 1,000 Gazans on: August 01, 2014, 05:36:15 PM
1364 declared deaths as we speak; dozens of thousands of wounded, probably will pass the 1400 mark before the end of the day, but again there people that will still defend this genocide.

800 people have died from the Ebola outbreak. Is that a genocide?

1411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 01, 2014, 03:04:34 PM
Looks like my emails to UK Farming and Agriculture news outlets worked.  Do the same in your region. http://www.farming.co.uk/news/article/10240

This is clearly an independent 3rd party story, not a press release. They even typoed "Nitcoin" in the title when they probably meant Bitcoin lol

I just emailed the author, hopefully he will change the title asap.  Smiley  

Now the article is down, probably to revise the typos

Here is a cache

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NjXiCFfTEtMJ:www.farming.co.uk/news/article/10240+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk
1412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 01, 2014, 02:16:06 PM
Looks like my emails to UK Farming and Agriculture news outlets worked.  Do the same in your region. http://www.farming.co.uk/news/article/10240

This is clearly an independent 3rd party story, not a press release. They even typoed "Nitcoin" in the title when they probably meant Bitcoin lol
1413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $PayPro = latest Bittrex scam on: July 31, 2014, 08:23:49 PM


The real masters of the universe are the Urocoin people.  Every Monday they Photoshop up some "official" document from India or somewhere from some company taking their ~$2.15 or so coin for multi-million dollar shipments of Urea.  Then they move coins around to make it look like 12,500 Uro orders are piling up.  Every now and then they even have the dev on video.  I've made some nice money on the pumps, feel sorry people who just can't see the truth.


Well Rivaa is not just "some company" they are a big Indian clothing retailer that hires Bollywood actresses to model their clothes.

http://www.rivaa.in/Announcement  

If anything PRO shows what a REAL scam is like; sloppy, thrown together, and ends in a few days plus absolutely no digital evidence of Darren Palmer even existing as a business owner. Meanwhile there is a paper trail of documents, websites and photos proving GES's existence back a decade online.

Also the fact $750k dollars worth of URO coins were "stacked" in the big 12,500 wallets and not sold during the big pump is telling in itself.
1414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 31, 2014, 07:22:28 PM
All this volume and still hovering around 37k? Crazy.
1415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: SCAM PRO PayProCoin on: July 31, 2014, 03:14:32 PM
Mr. Palmer deleted my message just now

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.


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So Paypal, Virox AND his bank all acted quickly within hours of a few fudsters to shut his accounts down at the exact same time? LOL
1416  Other / Politics & Society / Re: S.E. Cupp: It’s a myth that conservatism is hostile to atheism on: July 31, 2014, 01:06:36 PM
I'm a conservative atheist, I personally find the irrationality and blind beliefs of organized religion with Keynesian tax & spend economics go together like bread and butter.
1417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 31, 2014, 03:51:59 AM
Here is the linkedin for Aman Lakhani confirming Uro deal for non touch users

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/aman-lakhani/66/b01/9b6

1418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation. on: July 30, 2014, 08:43:02 PM


Officials say more than 40 people died in Gaza as Israel continued heaviest bombing of 23-day campaign

Funny how Israel supposedly keeps hitting these schools and civilians left and right yet I have yet to see any reports of Hamas fighter casualties, they must be ninja warriors I tell ya.
1419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRO] PayProCoin [SHA-256] Longevity. Transparency. Integrity. Usability. on: July 30, 2014, 07:23:58 PM


No racist jokes, please ...  Grin Grin Grin Grin

LOL not quite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy
1420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRO] PayProCoin [SHA-256] Longevity. Transparency. Integrity. Usability. on: July 30, 2014, 06:47:11 PM


Is instant-bitcoins this popular in the uk?

Yes after 2 months in existence it is surely bigger than Western Union now
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