elmit why do you not just switch to the new and help bringing the coin forward without other posts. .... or we can use this one for personal disputes and the other for discussion about the coin. Because dev disappered we need a new one, because we will not be able to update the op here. and nothing is as bad as a old op with dead links... then we can just kick the coin to the waste. Uh... This is not quite what I had in mind boba... I appreciate the effort, but this is not going to be the new OP. we are going for a complete redesign, can you please delete this until we're ready to do it the way we wanted to? |
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I'm running quite a few Seagate 4 and 5 TB external drives, been running quite a while without issue. I bought them because the price was right  . As far as I can tell BURST has done zero damage to them. Everything is still running exactly the way it should be. |
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yummy, tasty, manipulate...sty. xD Great work as always brother. You know I've always had faith, I'm gonna continue holding+staking I think, for the foreseeable future, I'm thinking my 35k+ VIRAL that I'm sitting on as profit after I already made my initial investment back, may just make me a very happy man in some years.  Thanks, as always, for not allowing the fud screamers to make waves, and proving along with a few others (of us crypto fools and future thinking bastards in the alt community) that not all alts are out to scam people. Keep fighting the good fight bro. Throws hand up somehow making a VFFV |
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Good to know people are working on it. If I can do some testing, please let me know. I have an 7970 OC and 16GB DDR3 at hand and a whole lot of USB3 stuff and drives. Its best to invest all into the GUI Wallet, this keeps it All-in-One and easy to understand. [EDIT] I need to take back some words! Version 0.1.9.1 has launched without my knowledge and it does use 8GB instead of 1GB in version 0.1.9! Bravo! 100 BURST send to BURST-LNVN-5M4L-S9KP-H5AAC!  Its not doing the 9200 nonce I had before, could that has to do because this is a 2.5" drive and the 9200 was a 3.5"? Nice to know that the fix works! Next release will use even more RAM (maybe 70% of available RAM). You mean 9200 nonces/minutes? It depends also on transfer/write speeds of your drive. 2,5" drives are slower but ASYNC mode would help with so much available RAM, which isn't implemented yet. I put it on the to do list. https://sourceforge.net/projects/burstwindowswallet/daWallet, I would be willing to make you an account on my home rig (i7 3960X Extreme Edition 6 (12) core, 32GB DDR3, 280x GPU, roughly 35TB HDD space that is mostly plotted, but I could let you replot a few drives if you want) so that you'd have an adequate higher end machine to play around with. Also, Don't worry people, we're cleaning things up, but yea we could use some help. We have only a couple people that are still dedicated to working on the coin, and I've been busy the past week so I haven't had a chance to do what I want to yet. That is one of the main issues, is we just don't have enough help. If it were something I could work full time on, you better believe everything would be perfect, but I have my company and my day job with the software developer I work for as well, so I sometimes can't dedicate near the time I would like to. If anyone would like to help (mustang, I'd like to see your video examples, etc) please contact me, or haitch, daWallet, xizmax, anyone on the team!
Or, just come join us in our public/private shared chat hosted on our private servers! http://chat.burst-team.us:3000Thanks! Plans now - 1. New OP with easy to see links to all good and working tools with largest links to the easiest ones 2. New graphics for this OP 3. Get more people using the chat and involved with the community and team directly |
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I suggested modifications to the block reward and structure, but those were shot down.
At the moment it seems the structure will remain, and people seem to agree with it... and/or just disagree with my suggestion.
There will definitely be a clone.
I agree that the mining reward reduction is too fast, but no, this has nothing to do with mining difficulty, it is simply the structure of the coin release that needs to be modified. I'm also worried about what happens when the coin hits the cap. If we don't have EXTREME INTEREST built in the coin by then, with very much more usage and reasons to use the coin... what then?
Exactly the reason I proposed a change in reward and cap. Which was vehemently shut down, in some cases with extreme prejudice.
So at this time it seems the only real option is a clone while at the same time trying my damnest to figure a way to get BURST recognition.
IMO things didn't work the way we thought they would in the beginning, which warrants a fundamental change in structure. But my opinions were not agreed with by the general community at large...
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i am still unable to get anny connections, adam, can you please tell me some addnodes or a config to add? thanks
This is a really strange issue, I never ever had myself and most people that I personally know that use the wallets, I would like to investigate why this happens to a few people only and what could be the cause since it is not happening to the majority of users who run their wallets all the time. I re-installed the wallet and fixed that issue. For me, it was not synchronizing even though I had 'active connections'. |
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So. Crowetic decided something without community permission. I post screenshots from slack. Also look how our "PR master" is kind fo community. OPEN SOURCE SCREEMING IDIOTS. Nice. Crowetic - You are not king of burst. Honestly you are noone. Just normal community member. Your PR "organisation" did nothing for burst. You are not dev and you will not take any decission without community voting and permission. So noone suuported you. IMO you are done. Screenshots   Uh, I really don't see what you're trying to say here... but yea, I forked to my github as a test to see how it was done, then came into the team chat so that I could ask if anyone else had a git that they'd like to use for the new main. Tiga said he had made a burst-team git, and so we are probably going to use that. Then he invited me to be part of it. I don't see how this has anything to do with anything... Now it is BAD that I want to keep BURST development ABLE to move forward? Interesting... Do you see anywhere that says "I updated this without saying anything, and now this is this! BWAHAHAHA!"... No? I didn't think so. All I did, which I haven't mentioned yet to the community because it wasn't fully done yet, is contacted poloniex and made sure that if BURST were to go with a new main git, they'd be accepting. Which they were. So YAY! This means that BURST development can go on, even if main dev doesn't return. This is what I would call, a GOOD thing. Oh, another thing... the only one screaming about closed source, was you. Maybe that's why this offended you and no one else even knows what is going on. Just to clarify... BURST is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it will never be anything but open source. As if this needed to be explained... I just don't get what you're trying to do here man... but what you seem to be accomplishing, is making yourself look like a fool. |
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Why wouldn't they be able to sell these 'useless-to-them' coins @ an exchange where people find them not to be so 'useless'? Or am I missing something here?
As far as the depth of the order book, I'm not sure on that I'll have to find out.
Also, with the marketplace you can sell whatever thing at a given price, and modify said price whenever you'd like.
Well right now they have been operating in a universe or multiverse in which very few of the currencies/assets in use actually appear on any of the types of exchange altcoin users are used to, which is to say website type exchanges where the public goes to the website and trades on it. (Most players would just visit their guild, chat with the guildmasters, find out what the going rates were, and have their guild officers execute trades on the Open Transactions system on their behalf.) Most of the coins that were originally created as blockchains have long ago switched from using blockchains because even using merged mining it turned out that blockchains are not practical to secure; you cannot get enough merged mining pools to support your coins so you end up with so little hashing power the coin cannot possibly be viewed as secure. That is why we moved to Open Transactions in the first place, there were a number of nations and corporations that had coins in which there were 21 million coins, like bitcoin, but in which long ago all the coins were issued so there were no longer rewards available to miners for mining them, other than transaction fees. We can see from what is happening with IXCoin and I0Coin how that is likely to turn out, so we moved to the Open Transactions platform to avoid the need for miners. So look again at two players, one of whom is a Brit, a member of Britclan, a user of Britclan's national coin, the United Kingdom Britcoin, and the other is a Canuck, a member of the Canuck clan, a user of the Canucks' national coin, Canadian Digital Notes. For what do you propose they sell the useless-to-them platform coins, heck lets get specific and assume they do try to use the BURST platform. They want to buy coins that are used in their universe / multiverse, such as those listed at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.htmlOn the Open Transactions system we did actually have a platform coin of sorts, by turning on "usage credits" system we were able to prevent anyone doing any API calls without owning "usage credits". But, the ":usage credits" on that system are deliberately not something you can trade, because another of their uses is as part of a Know Your Customer system; by having those usage credits available only directly from the system administrators Open Transactions enables system administrators to prevent anyone they do not know from using API calls. so that if they choose to do so they could refuse to issue any usage credits to anyone whose identity they are not satisfied with. On Open Transactions you can pair any asset/currency against any other, and at any scale that is a power of ten, so you can have for example pairs at scale of millions where the governments and multi-nationals can trade in bulk with each other in "lots" of a million coins at a time, markets at scale of 100,000 where smaller players can break down a lot of a million into ten lots of 100,000 to sell at a profit, buying from the millions-scale markets, and so on down to markets where people can buy a single coin of a type at a time. This was working very nicely actually, so much so that we are still looking into trying to migrate to the new Open Transactions system. Maybe the problem with the huge numbers of platform coins is simply one of what is the saturation point at which the whales of the system will choke on the new incoming assets and find they no longer have enough platform coins laying around to be able to continue throwing them willy nilly at each new asset that comes along? That is, maybe if I convince the nations and multinationals behind the major coins of the Galactic Milieu to each throw a few million of their 21 million coins into BURST, at a sufficiently high price in BURST, we can reach a point at which these whales that we fear have loaded themselves up with "enough" of each asset that they sit back and let some actual trading between the "new" assets take place? But how much is this going to cost them in their own coins? I guess that is the problem. It is possible that the real solution to all this is to clone one of the platforms and divide the billions or hundreds of billions of platform-coins among all the nations and multinationals that are behind our existing coins/assets, so that they themselves are the whales of the system... Something like HORIZON might work if done that way, but, it would mean having to maintain the thing. -MarkM- you're aware that if you were to say... clone BURST... your mining would be on HDDs and thus MUCH less power than mining the other coins you were mentioning. OR, you use BURST to establish your assets and see how it goes. I personally think you could use BURST exactly in the manner you're needing. I think BURST is a platform that you may find extremely interesting whether you choose to clone it and make your own coin with which you can establish your assets, or do as irontiga mentioned and create asset to asset trading pairs with Automated Transactions on an already established 8 PetaByte network. Also @tiga - isn't it possible to have the exchange rate automatically calculated like you've done with the blockchain? We can just set a different value for each of the 'coins' he will be using as assets on the AE. |
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Why wouldn't they be able to sell these 'useless-to-them' coins @ an exchange where people find them not to be so 'useless'? Or am I missing something here? Also, with Automated Transactions and 'Atomic Cross Chain Transfers' They could directly trade these coins with whatever other coin. Only catch being the other coin also has to have Automated Transactions.
As far as the depth of the order book, I'm not sure on that I'll have to find out.
Also, with the marketplace you can sell whatever thing at a given price, and modify said price whenever you'd like.
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crowetic - One thing - You are naive. That's all. I am not against you but you are naive. I am in community for long time. I read every single post in this thread. And you know what? I remember your conversations with Elmit. I remember the case with mmaybe. So you are not so perfect as you think. And now you are a big fan of bitladen. How much or what he promise to you for that? And are you trying to compare bitladen and our real burstcoin dev only becouse of anonimity? REALLY ? I don't have a time for that but if you want i can paste here some quotes of bitladen from this thread but i think you know it very well. You can read some of his creativeness (nice fun) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=485195;sa=showPosts;start=220I don't want to argue with you. I am glad that many other users in this community see the problem with bitladen. Maybe you're unclear on the definition of the word 'naive'. But if you knew the whole story on the mmmaybe situation, you'd know you have no idea what you're talking about. Also, Elmit? What? I think you're a little confused. Seriously man, if all you're going to do here is come in and say things that you have no idea about, just don't. It's a waste of everyone's time having to read it. I've also read every post in the thread, and I hardly remember you at all, maybe that's saying something. Why don't you quit coming in to call me names you don't even know the meaning of, and go do something beneficial for the coin? I will say this once again, I understand people's feelings on bit, but that doesn't mean I have to feel the same way. Everyone, including me, is entitled to their opinions. If you don't like my opinions, that's fine, but calling me names just makes you look ridiculous. Especially with situations that you only know the public view on. When all of the truth on what really happened was never posted publicly. Taking the word of random trolls can be unwise. This will be my last direct comment to you, as I don't feel like you're worth my time. But please, do me a favor and just keep my name out of your mouth? Thanks. |
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I would be absolutely interested in a sports betting site for BURST, even though I rarely watch sports, I would go with the investment side of it I'm sure. Right now there isn't a lot of interest for very much at all in the BURST community, but by doing things like this we're hoping to change that, right? I say go for it! Once it is up, we can decide if there are mods needed and whatnot and help you out!
Don't worry about the LTCgear thing, I also got taken pretty hard by them, lesson learned.
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Most excellent to hear!
I truly hope we get back on a progressive, and constructive, path.
Good things are coming!!
Indeed, it was just the temporary conflict that pushed the price down, the uncertainty. Now that things start to calm down, investors will regain their confidence in BURST, and they will push the price up hopefully soon.
That's all, lets do things, make things, start things, get this going in the direction that we should all agree on.
What do you think about my proposal about expanding INCOME? After all you are shareholder too, and every shareholder can tell his opinion: [ANN] Income Asset - Decentralized Referral Empire based IncomeI will look at your proposal soon, but I took it upon myself to shoot a tweet out in support of your project from the BURST twitter https://twitter.com/real_BURSTCOIN/status/643450099184472064 |
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Crowetic - You are going in the wrong direction. I have nothing against you and i like your involvement in burst project until day 1. But i don't trust you anymore becouse of your personal relations with bitladen. He is cheater and 0 morality man. I don't know why you did it, but it's not important for me. I left your pool and moved my plots to dev v2 pool (IMO the safest place ATM) To community - Thank you for support coin fundamentals. Many smart people write here their opinions. We are strong community and can't let burst destroyed. Another thing - Don't trust bitladen. He is deciever. Don't install any stuff wrote by him. (closed source code - REALLY? If you want to be part of his botnet - go ahead ) He is anonymous guy on Internet with bad reputation in this thread. if you install soft wrote by him you will be really naive. I will not support any clone writed by him, even if i can merge mining with burst. But IMO he wants to drop burst hashrate if people move thier plot files to his SCAM Coin. I will add another 20TB to total burst hashrate in next two weeks. I will buy some HDD to my home rig and share some TB from my IT Department EMC Array. I advise to all of you, don't trust bitladen. Increase yours plot files and buy some cheap burst. Ahh and bitladen - Don't forget about your pills  Hello there. Which direction am I going? Kindly inform me. Because according to reality, the direction I'm going is toward the active development and positive future of BURST. Please tell me how I'm doing anything but that, sir. You're more than welcome to leave my pool if you actually think that I will all of a sudden both start lying to the community, and decide to attack the network, simply because I have different feelings than you on a certain individual. But you've gotta see how insane that sounds. If you find me a person of that weak of character, that I would allow a friend to easily sway me to his opinion, go ahead and act accordingly, however I assure you this has never been the case, nor will it ever be. Who the hell said anything about closed source? Go ahead and point that out. All we've ever said is open source, and not only that, but reviewed by literally as many coders as anyone would like. So please again, tell me where you saw anything opposite. If you don't support the clone, that's also fine, you're free to be anti-whatever. But don't come in here and start falsely accusing things of being the opposite of what they are without any sort of backing of truth or proof whatsoever. K? Thanks. If you don't want to make extra money by mining on the same space two coins, that's up to you. One more thing... People aren't going to buy BURST just because you say so. As you should be able to see here, I'm for the development of the coin. Aren't you? Open source development, community development, reviewed by other devs, checked by many, and posted to the coin. However, how many people aside from bit are actually planning on developing something? Do you really think that without any sort of development that BURST will continue on forever the way it is? Do you really think that without any sort of development that BURST will be able to successfully get investors? I would say that's pretty delusional thinking. Feel how you would like about bit, as I have said multiple times. But the fact that you're going to go against me because I happen to talk to him and consider him a friend, truly shows me that you definitely don't know me very well at all, and actually, I've never spoken to you privately, so that should show exactly how well you know me. I would appreciate it if you don't come in and start rambling nonsense without any sort of proof or truth behind it. Thanks. P.S. - Is it just me, or is burstdev also anonymous? So yea, let us not trust any anonymous internet people. |
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Quick question for all the active Burstcoin holders
Would you be interested in a Burst asset based on a fund of Proof of Stake coins?
The asset would hold around 5 different chunks of POS coins such as Mintcoin, Clams, Peercoin e.t.c
Funds would be raised in Burst and the POS coins would be purchased and held in wallets, the income
from the staked coins would be returned to asset holders as Burstcoin.
I think this could be a good asset that would help bolster and stability to Burstcoin.
What do you think?
I think it's brilliant. Takes care of all BURST's problems by avoiding them completely. But my suggestion is that you make such an asset for each coin, any coin, BTC, LTC, ETH, XRP etc. It would be easier to manage this way, than all of them mixed up. Then you can still make assets that buy into multiple of the above assets, to get the coin portfolio effect. Agreed, a brilliant plan, and I highly encourage you to start it ASAP. |
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Wow... something epic just happened there.... Elmit and Crow agree on something... I'm trying to make this a more peaceful thread, I'm trying to further the coin and the tech, I'm trying to get people to stop fighting over things that aren't super important right now, causing unnecessary drama, and instead, help to give ideas, put new things in place to help the coin, and get more projects started. So I will no longer directly attack Elmit, or anyone really, because all it does is lend people to think of BURST in an unprofessional manner, and I would appreciate it if not only he, but everyone here would do the same. (although I'm not stupid, and I know trolls will always exist, the non-trolls should go this route if possible, please.) That's all, lets do things, make things, start things, get this going in the direction that we should all agree on. Also, I don't know who brought it up again, but the modification of the block reward WILL NOT HAPPEN. At least not now anyway. Community development will be the direction we head for now, and I encourage as many people as possible to just start doing stuff, and tell us when you're ready to have some coders look it over. |
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The 'miners responded' statistic on ninja is a good way to measure the 'active'. not ALL will respond each block, but there will be most.
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Let's see this 51% attack from pityladen then.
You too man... I don't even know who you are, coming in out of nowhere starting with nonsense like this? Also, you don't believe the obvious that is right in front of your face or what? Have you ever even LOOKED at the block explorer? Don't you see it is pretty obvious that he's the largest miner in the network BY FAR? I will ask you to do the same that I just asked above, please, just stop with the nonsense. If we can all just work together here and make things more beneficial for everyone by making BURST a force to be reckoned with (even moreso than its tech already is) don't you think that would be better than doing what you're doing here? What do you hope to accomplish with this? I for one, would prefer to not have BURST removed from exchanges due to the network being attacked, but maybe I'm one of the few who really cares, is that it? Just drop the subject and let us move forward. I would appreciate it. |
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There will be no 51% attack from this asshole, that is for sure.
Simply not because he does not want to, but because he cannot.
As simply as that.
Is this entirely necessary? I get him to stop with public threats and agree to do more beneficial things for the BURST community, and you try to get him to attack? Really? Can we all just quit with this please? |
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We need more hashpower to protect the coin ? I've put something up for sale here before I go to ebay in a week or two; http://burstcoin.info/market/including plotting to your specs. Many of those available, but I can only plot 1 or 2 a week. If the coin has more value it would automatically increase the hashpower. Oh, how I love these smart-asses, stating the obvious. I'm trying to make use of the integrated market place, you wisenheimer. And the price per TB is half that of new disks. It depends on your local energy costs if this is a viable alternative to buying new Harddrives. If so, voila, 32 TB added to the net. Going along with use of the marketplace, I would like to reiterate that I too have posted some available hashpower for sale. Only in the form of a single 4TB Western Digital RE SAS drive, but available nonetheless. Also, I still plan to go forward with the making of an asset with bit's mining power. He re-affirmed to me today that if we do go ahead with this, and people accept that it is something productive and give the benefit of the doubt, with of course myself backing the asset and doing the release, he will remove his 'threat' of any sort of 51% attack. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One more thing, the decision to not alter the BURST reward structure for now has been made as well, seeing as there are too many community members against the idea. Also, the moving forward with a clone coin will take place. I find the mention of some sort of spyware being imbedded into an open source project to be a ridiculous idea, but regardless, I will say that this is not something that should be worried about at all. I will likely be a big part of the clone coin as well, and feel like the modifications that are accepted as mutually beneficial for both BURST and the clone, would be put into BURST as well, upon agreement and acceptance, and of course, however many devs as deemed necessary, reviewing the code. If anyone has issues with these statements, I think that is silly and I don't think I will entertain it whatsoever. In recap, the only reason you would not trust the fact that these things would not come to fruition, is if you don't trust myself, nor the developers that will review the code. I also think that the fact dual-mining is a possibility, means it should be attempted. However, seeing as the main dev will be bitladen, people who have issue with him can simply avoid the benefit of getting dual rewards from their same plotted space. Also, since it IS possible to make the plots incompatible, I have a feeling that the more negativity that continues here between everyone, the less likely it would be for the two coins to want to work together, which in fact would be a shame, as I feel this could make something that is already extremely revolutionary, become even more-so having the ability to not only mine 1 advanced coin, but TWO, with hardly any power, on an existing BURST mining setup, would be pretty freakin' awesome. So... I will ask everyone, can we become a community of people that are out for the same goal here? Even if we may not view everything exactly the same, can we at least all agree that we're in support of the technology, and would really like it all to become successful? Lastly, I hardly think we can compare BURST (or any crypto for that matter) to gold or really any 'traditional' investment, as there are many other things in play in the crypto community that aren't in the others, so there will obviously be differences. We can speculate based on whatever we'd like, but saying that things are for sure how things will play out in a given scenario, is just silly. The thing is, we're in a place where we've got to stay ahead, and that means having active development on not only tools and extras, but of course, the core of the tech. Community development for BURST is what we've gotta go with at the moment, as we've not got a single person willing to stand up and take the role 'lead dev'. So people, any developer that is willing, fork the github, do some work, come tell us what your work will do, and let us get this coin's development going again! To the future! *holds up glass* |
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I don't know why people seem to want to make me talk with extra large letters to get my point across... nor the fact certain people seem inconsolably dense... BUT...
REGARDLESS OF MY FEELINGS ON BITLADEN, I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND IN FACT BITLADEN HIMSELF IN PRIVATE CONVERSATION, THAT I WILL NEVER MALICIOUSLY ATTACK THE BURST NETWORK WITH ANYTHING THAT I OWN OR AM IN CONTROL OF.
Now, does this clear everything up for everyone?
We're in talks that are actually very constructive, as opposed to sitting here TRYING to start sqabbles, after I implicitly asked you (yes, you boba...) if we could just quit with the incessant squabbling over nonsense.
Now, are you going to continue to publicly bash my pool without reason? Or are you going to be an adult and quit the nonsense?
Seriously, I don't get acting like a child because I've had a larger pool for a longer period of time.
You know WHY? Because I've been a trusted 'leader' in this coin for a VERY long time, and I've been a miner since DAY ONE. I have and always will support the coin, once again I say... REGARDLESS OF MY PERSONAL FEELINGS OF ANYONE, INCLUDING BITLADEN.
Now, was this large enough for you to see?
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