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Everything looks good here. Transaction IDs and pay out address match for my deposits.
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the re-selling is batch#2, not batch#3. a big difference
who is willing to take batch#2 for $15,000?
There's only a 22 day shipping difference between batch #2 and batch #3, assuming everything sticks to schedule. In terms of achieving ROI, paying $15,000 is arguably more of a risk than paying $5,000 - 6,000. When was the batch #2 order window closed and what was the BTC price? Please do your research. How is this relevant? I'm referring to the people spending $15k-$20k on batch #2 on eBay. That's just as much of a risk, if not more so, than spending $6k on a batch #3 order. If anything it justifies the price if people are willing to drop that much for an earlier pre-order batch. If Avalon kept the price the same it'd get tons of people buying units to resell. |
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the re-selling is batch#2, not batch#3. a big difference
who is willing to take batch#2 for $15,000?
There's only a 22 day shipping difference between batch #2 and batch #3, assuming everything sticks to schedule. In terms of achieving ROI, paying $15,000 is arguably more of a risk than paying $5,000 - 6,000. |
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They've said the funds will be used for development of their next-generation ASIC.
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Will it be possible to put the machine into a datacenter or similar and set it up through internet? Because at some point the power cost will be a factor so there might be a place with cheap power and internet access.
I'd imagine you can, it's running Linux (openWRT) so it'd just be a matter of changing the listening IP to a public facing address. |
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NO disrespect, but stop bumping your own topic man.
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Hey thanks for the link ill take a look! But i think time is against me! I thought the whole time the $ would be my biggest hurdle... Im in denial right now.. Wonder how many other people in the same boat. I completely understand wanting to help the bitcoin economy and all but if we can prove funds they should hold our cart for us while we jump hoops!! or something.. Just didnt think i would be in this position so im a bit besides myself...  I hear you. I almost decided to buy a unit myself but have been waiting since last week to get verified by mtgox and BTC has gone up almost $10 since that time. I took a year hiatus from Bitcoin and before gox didn't mandate verification for adding funds. Sucks, but really it's my loss for not being prepared Luckily I still had some BTC laying around to get in on a group buy. |
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BFL adding 2000gh a day is quite the assumption. It could happen, but not likely considering their track record so far |
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Either they are fake bidders driving the price up, or are far too hopeful...
I sometimes get the feeling some newcomers to Bitcoin don't understand that the difficulty will exponentially increase.
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I went into this taking the risk into account and personally I trust him. Not to mention pulling a fast one would ruin his name in the community and any rep he has built up, cutting him out from organizing similar buys in the future. Assuming this group buy ends up being a success he could potentially make even more money down the road as new ASICs inevitably come out people would trust him to host them. So really... I think it is in his best interest not to scam anyone. Keep up the good work  |
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So first its said they are out, someone said 10 left and now its still running? The more im wondering about my order-id. I have 7341. The first batch had 300 and the next both 600. Thats under 1000. So how comes this crazy ordernumber? I wonder if something went wrong there and more are sold then the 600.
Because people add units to their cart without ever paying and it creates a pending order. |
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Sent an extra 0.92
tx: faaef5efac97626e24987f0f8c6edcec00995952bff1feead9e49acaa6acd302
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I checked out the avalon page out of curiosity and found that they now charge a good chunk of money. 72.63BTC, that would be $5374,62 per 63GH/s.
Do you think it makes sense to order an asic from the third batch for that price? I mean its open when one will have a machine at home running and you dont know whats the competition at that time. Asicminer Shares are at a high price too now, so it will take time to break even when buying new shares. So what do you think how many days or weeks will one have to mine with an avalon from the third batch until break even? And when do you think will those machines be at home?
Nobody knows. There's way too many factors at play. If you feel it is too risky then join a group buy to minimize the risk. I personally think batch #3 will arrive before BFL ships. And if that ends up being the case batch #3 users should still make good ROI. |
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Someone speculated that order numbers are generated each time someone adds to cart or goes to pay, but payment fails.
Since there were 900 actual orders between batches 1-2 (presumably up to order 4500), I speculate that an actual order is placed only every 5 orders, meaning the 600 from batch 3 won't fill up until about order number #7500.
It is true, an order number is generated as soon as you add to cart and go to the BitPay screen. So not every number increment is a sale. |
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Sent a PM, I"ve got 5 BTC ready.
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I'd be interested, but unfortunately I won't be able to buy the BTC until Thursday-Friday and dunno what the price will be like by then. Most likely it'll be sold out by then too. Ah well.
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Yes, it's real. Avalon pre orders and even early BFL pre-orders are going for 15x+ what people payed for them.. pretty crazy! I was surfing around ebay when I thought I'd see what pre-orders were going at. I saw that auction with 20 minutes left at $15,000 and I almost crapped my pants.   All the more reason batch 3 price is justified I suppose. |
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Sent PM |
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Dude,
I ordered mine at noon i remember it clearly. A friend of mine ordered about 12 PM so please excuse me it was not available for a whole day but at least for 12+ hours i am talking for the reopening of second batch 1 week later after the initial fiasco probably you missed this out ?
Some of us still have a daily job / business to run and commitments, despite the entire BTC craze, and cannot spend the whole day checking the site. 12 hours window reminds me more a Black Friday rush, then an equal opportunity to anyone willing to put their coins into early product. Anyhow, this discussion is moot as Avalon can and will charge whatever they want, so I wish luck to all current and future ASIC miners – in the end you only make the market stronger. Ditto. I missed batch #2 by a few hours. If anything, the risk is much higher for batch #3 since there's a greater possibility of the difficulty going up soon and the offchance that BFL may actually ship. If I do decide to get an ASIC, I might just order one through BFL even though I am fully aware they may never ship, still a lower risk to me than dropping $5k as I can afford to lose a grand and I'm not interested in insane ROI. |
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Speaking of security, since when is vastly raising the bar to entry better for the network in the long run? Instead of thousands of people saving their pennies to make a purchase, Avalon is instead tailoring to a hundred customers who have substantial amounts of cash lying around. This sort of circles back to my comment on their "business skills"...
Agreed. They are limiting the purchasing pool to companies, people already heavily invested in BTC or that already own an Avalon unit. Less diversification of hashing throughput. But I'm not complaining. The price is fair given the market situation and no competition, so if that's what they want to charge so be it. The units will still sell out for reasons stated above. Your average joe can't afford $5k for one of these - even if ROI is good it would be irresponsible to buy one, regardless of how much faith you have in Bitcoin. |
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