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Dumped all my MCN. Price is falling. Will buy back when the dev appears again and give some re-assurances.
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a scam coin made for poloniex...
no pool , from day 1 listed on poloniex, no dev active in the thread...
Wow man, you are wrong. You should read this topic and some BCN theory to understand that. Moneta Verde is amazing and it's not about scams. Don't pay your precious attention my friend. Maybe he is a scam who was sent by main verde's competitors? Why is the the not posting? Hasnt been online since Friday. Did you realize what you have wrote? It doesn't make any sense. It makes perfect sense. I am always looking out for warning signs, like devs disappearing. It is good practice for devs to regularly check in to the forum. Well, that is if Cryptomidnight is the dev. Sorry if I am a bit paranoid, but one has to be in the crypto world. |
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a scam coin made for poloniex...
no pool , from day 1 listed on poloniex, no dev active in the thread...
Wow man, you are wrong. You should read this topic and some BCN theory to understand that. Moneta Verde is amazing and it's not about scams. Don't pay your precious attention my friend. Maybe he is a scam who was sent by main verde's competitors? Why is the the not posting? Hasnt been online since Friday. |
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Situation: We are on 129 place. now is 128 th place out of 443 Just note that MP is the last stop in the road and is the coin graveyard. One has to have a coin with super features in it with high demand to survive a MP listing. Be careful what you wish for. C-CEX, Bittrex, Polo and Cryptsy would be sufficient until the dev's plans have materialised. Going onto MP as the next coin at the top is a coins death sentence. |
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I know too little about the intricacies of pools to know if it already works like this, but another possibility to consider in future is for a pool to generate an address for each pool account within the pool wallet. The pool operator can then transfer the coins generated to the respective addresses in its wallets. The block explorer and rich list will then indicate a reflection of wallet balances in order to determine fair distribution. It will also be possible to detect any significant address balances that are not reasonable for the hash rate that would indicate a miner bypassing the system or solo mining with a leaked wallet.
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can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon
It is possible to create a rich list. You have to note however that it is too late now to draw any conclusions from a rich list regarding fairness of distribution for MIN. Many people have already bought tons of MIN on C-CEX and therefore the current rich list could have resulted from normal trade on an exchange. This makes me think however of general block explorer controls that I have been thinking about but not yet posted. I could have posted it anywhere as it is coin neutral but I post it here since my reply to your post triggered the thoughts again so I just post it here: I suggest the following procedures regarding wallet balances before, during and after any coin launch. This will ensure the basic principles of accountability and transparency: 1. When a new coin launches, a rich list must be drawn up before launch using the blockchain at that point. The dev can submit the block chain to a trusted 3rd party who can run the script and publish the block explorer and rich list before the launch. This will indicate if there was any pre-mine by a dev. The addresses that exist just before launch will be the dev's pre-mine addresses. No coin may therefore be launched without a working block explorer and rich list. If this can be made compulsory for all coin launches, then we will know all pre-mines in advance and we can monitor the pre-mine address movement during the launch, POW and beyond. Here is an example of what must be created as a pre-requisite of all coin launches before the launch http://explorer.payprocoin.com/2. When the coin hits the first exchange, the pre-mine addresses in point 1 can be monitored by the community and any large movement in it can be immediately picked up by a warning built into the pre-mine script and the community can be warned of imminent pre-mine dump. Dev's are accountable to the community on all pre-mine activity and have to explain any such movements to the community. This is a basic principle of public accountability. A bad dev might try to cipher the pre-mine to other addresses but those movements can immediately be picked up and the dev must explain the movements. It would also help is exchange addresses are made public so that large movements from pre-mine addresses to the exchange address can be picked up by the block explorer monitoring script and red flags raised. 3. Immediately after POW ends, the rich list will indicate how fair distribution was, although this might be tainted if there is an exchange listing before end of POW. This can be countered if there can be an agreement that no coin gets listed before POW ends unless it is a coin with indefinite POW. Coin dev's that are open an honest will subscribe to these basic rules. An honest dev has nothing to hide. Coin devs that do not want to follow these points are probably scams and should be avoided as the only reason they would not agree to this is if they want to hide something or have ill intent. I think the above procedures will limit the number of scam coin launches. but we can still analyze the history from blockchain isn't from the first block until now ? Many people do not know how to do the analysis, It must be there in easy to use format for all to see, so that a n00b to make informed decisions if they want to participate in a launch and if the dev was telling the truth about a pre-mine. It could also be that by the time someone does the effort to analyse the block chain, the pre-mine is already dumped and the dev gone. However it could be possible to draw up a rich list at a point in time eg. block 20090 in the case of MIN, but the coins would then still have been all in the pool's address or in C-CEX address, with many coins potentially still in the pools. It could therefore very well be impossible to determine an exact distribution number after POW ended. |
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I want to know what you guys think of the top priority that I should now choose for the Minerals development so I've updated voting for this thread.
If I missed something just let me know, I'll add more options to voting
I would suggest you recognize the current trend "ANON". Once we add anon, other features easily follow due to market value & confidence. I'm surprised to see lot of people voted for betting feature. Only ANON can bring rapid value to MIN. Whales are watching and they love ANON  Lets look at it a bit differently. It seems that the main goal according the pole is the e-betting. However, there would be a dependency on eg. anon features, since the people using the e-betting would prefer to do it anonymously. Therefore the top priority should be recognised, but built on the foundation of anon. With anon foundation, any features built onto it will be much better received and used. That is the nature of the Interwebz. |
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can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon
It is possible to create a rich list. You have to note however that it is too late now to draw any conclusions from a rich list regarding fairness of distribution for MIN. Many people have already bought tons of MIN on C-CEX and therefore the current rich list could have resulted from normal trade on an exchange. This makes me think however of general block explorer controls that I have been thinking about but not yet posted. I could have posted it anywhere as it is coin neutral but I post it here since my reply to your post triggered the thoughts again so I just post it here: I suggest the following procedures regarding wallet balances before, during and after any coin launch. This will ensure the basic principles of accountability and transparency: 1. When a new coin launches, a rich list must be drawn up before launch using the blockchain at that point. The dev can submit the block chain to a trusted 3rd party who can run the script and publish the block explorer and rich list before the launch. This will indicate if there was any pre-mine by a dev. The addresses that exist just before launch will be the dev's pre-mine addresses. No coin may therefore be launched without a working block explorer and rich list. If this can be made compulsory for all coin launches, then we will know all pre-mines in advance and we can monitor the pre-mine address movement during the launch, POW and beyond. Here is an example of what must be created as a pre-requisite of all coin launches before the launch http://explorer.payprocoin.com/2. When the coin hits the first exchange, the pre-mine addresses in point 1 can be monitored by the community and any large movement in it can be immediately picked up by a warning built into the pre-mine script and the community can be warned of imminent pre-mine dump. Dev's are accountable to the community on all pre-mine activity and have to explain any such movements to the community. This is a basic principle of public accountability. A bad dev might try to cipher the pre-mine to other addresses but those movements can immediately be picked up and the dev must explain the movements. It would also help is exchange addresses are made public so that large movements from pre-mine addresses to the exchange address can be picked up by the block explorer monitoring script and red flags raised. 3. Immediately after POW ends, the rich list will indicate how fair distribution was, although this might be tainted if there is an exchange listing before end of POW. This can be countered if there can be an agreement that no coin gets listed before POW ends unless it is a coin with indefinite POW. Coin dev's that are open an honest will subscribe to these basic rules. An honest dev has nothing to hide. Coin devs that do not want to follow these points are probably scams and should be avoided as the only reason they would not agree to this is if they want to hide something or have ill intent. I think the above procedures will limit the number of scam coin launches. |
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DEV please put a bounty for each vote on Mintpal 3 MIN EACH VOTE This way increases the number of the votes WE NEED 15000 VOTES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE EXAMPLE HOW IT WORKS : every person who votes post the vote no and the address , after each vote my vote no 935 my address xxx The dev must pay each 3 or 4 hours to every person who votes, like this we can obtain the necessary votes untill next Monday, after 2 weeks ,when it will be added a new coin. https://www.mintpal.com/voting#MINGood idea... but dont do it... it will be seen as a giveaway... that could get the dev banned... and the thread locked... we dont want that right? Only if it is done on site. If it is done off-site then it can be done. |
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Then why you quoted with address？ DEV please put a bounty for each vote on Mintpal 3 MIN EACH VOTE This way increases the number of the votes WE NEED 15000 VOTES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE EXAMPLE HOW IT WORKS : every person who votes post the vote no and the address , after each vote my vote no 935 my。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。 The dev must pay each 3 or 4 hours to every person who votes, like this we can obtain the necessary votes untill next Monday, after 2 weeks ,when it will be added a new coin. https://www.mintpal.com/voting#MINthis bounty is a good idea. it is like paying 3 MIN for .001btc(value of one vote) and gives an opportunity for those who missed the mining period to get some free coins. support this idea. we can gain more than enough votes for less than 100,000 coins. question is.. who's going to keep track of it all. payments and verifying reports? Just refrain from posting addresses in the open forum as it might get the thread banned. You might have to do the posting off addresses off site. Also note that if the plan is for Polo as well, they will de-list a coin if pay-to-vote is applied. MP does not seem to have that issue. No I didnt  |
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ExclusiveOur CEO wrote a poem to digital currency exchange giant Team #BittrexExchange in a bid to favor some attention, here's what he wrote... Id like to trade some PRO (PayProCoin) with someone in the know,
Id like to see the clicks of people bidding PRO on Bittrex.
Id like to send you a line, of the time i spent on this rhythm.
Id like to see your face when our coin wins the race!
Kind Regards
Darren Palmer
PayProCoin
(Self confessed Digital Currency obsessed).
Team #BittrexExchange reply was both positive and encouraging. You're a poet and you didn't knowit. Would be great if PRO is listed on Bittrex. |
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DEV please put a bounty for each vote on Mintpal 3 MIN EACH VOTE This way increases the number of the votes WE NEED 15000 VOTES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE EXAMPLE HOW IT WORKS : every person who votes post the vote no and the address , after each vote my vote no 935 my address xxx The dev must pay each 3 or 4 hours to every person who votes, like this we can obtain the necessary votes untill next Monday, after 2 weeks ,when it will be added a new coin. https://www.mintpal.com/voting#MINthis bounty is a good idea. it is like paying 3 MIN for .001btc(value of one vote) and gives an opportunity for those who missed the mining period to get some free coins. support this idea. we can gain more than enough votes for less than 100,000 coins. question is.. who's going to keep track of it all. payments and verifying reports? Just refrain from posting addresses in the open forum as it might get the thread banned. You might have to do the posting off addresses off site. Also note that if the plan is for Polo as well, they will de-list a coin if pay-to-vote is applied. MP does not seem to have that issue. |
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0 BTC for the pools 0 BTC for the pools AND large farms |
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Well, this is nice, all these pools hungry for new hashes waiting for this shitcoin to launch and dev hasn't posted anything in the last 6 days. I hope you people didn't rent anything for this crap
Its for the best. The coin would have been hash raped by the big farms and pools. |
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One important thing to note is that Polo voting does not tolerate paying people to vote - if this was at some point part of the plan, then dont. If that happens then a coin gets delisted. |
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what is the main exchange for it ?
C-CEX Yes, C-CEX had the balls to list it and now they are reaping the profits and getting massive exposure to the crypto community. Everyone is asking about C-CEX, even in the troll boxes of other exchanges. |
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