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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AMD R9 290X? on: November 01, 2013, 10:31:33 AM
I got my R9 290X,  but when hashing scrypt using cgminer, I get lots of HW error. Cgminer 3.3.1 as well as 2.11.2 on windows.
 I have tried almost all reasonable settings of clock speed / memory speed / shader counts, lookup-gap, thread concurrency, etc, but I cannot get rid of HW errrors. It mines SHA256 without any hardware errors at 750MH/s. I am using AMD drivers beta 8, the one released on Oct 30 2013.
Battlefield 4 works great as well.
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AMD New Generation Radeon R9 290X!!!!! on: November 01, 2013, 10:30:26 AM
I would really like to know what they can reach, and with what wattage. Hopefully some will be in stock soon.
I got my 290X,  but when hashing scrypt using cgminer, I get lots of HW error. Cgminer 3.3.1 as well as 2.11.2.
 I have tried almost all reasonable setting of clock speed / memory speed / shader counts, lookup-gap, thread concurrency, etc, but I cannot get rid of HW errrors. It mines SHA256 without any hardware errors at 750MH/s. I am using AMD drivers beta 8, the one released on Oct 30 2013.
1083  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 01, 2013, 12:29:30 AM

  you can do more than 40Gh/s with by disable few chips or disable dead chips for OC.

what? Are you implying that disabling chips will make the board faster?

I think he is implying that by disabling weak chips you have more voltage for the strong performing chips and could clock them even higher which may get you over 40GH/s.
Better than disabling dead chips are remove it and short appropriate jumpers. You save energy for rest chips and can overclock little more.
If you haven't  appropriate equipment for that, go to any laptop repair service.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwl9p8pv1p0guh8/20131026_121407.jpg
Clean job there Smiley
1084  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [GUIDE] BitFury Miner Support/Tuning on: October 31, 2013, 01:50:32 AM
I've some questions ... maybee some one has a good solution ...

I'm using a multi rail atx psu ... 1200 Watt ... at which 2 miners are connected.

So if I want to do some overclocking at the moment I've to shut down both miners ...

What solution do I have to only shut down the miner Im modding ....

1) just pull out the pcie ... one by one on the miner? dangerous? also is reinserting to have it on again ... a problem when connecting one pcie after the other when psu is on?
2) is there a switch for a pcie cable? ...
3) a second psu ... yep i got one but i would be happy to only use ... one ...

thanx or your help
It may trigger the TVS diode on your raspberryPi and destroy it. I would suggest turning off the PSU instead of yanking out PCIE power cables.
1085  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Military grade secured Computationcenter in modern Armybunker - Switzerland on: October 31, 2013, 01:32:49 AM
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The Concept is to run without third party providers. With exeption of the Internet backbones the whole infrastructure is controled by a internal Security Team.

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        24/7 human support.
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The computation center is able to run up to 4 weeks independent

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Devices must be provided with PSU.

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When I visited SWISS, I noticed that almost all apartment complexes had concrete bikers built right into them Wink
1086  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What literature to include for master thesis about Bitcoin? on: October 31, 2013, 01:27:35 AM
During the next six months, I am going to make a master thesis about Bitcoin.

Currently my working title is "Bitcoin as a disruptive technology". My main hypothesis is Bitcoin is changing the value chain in finance, which basically means huge disruptions can, and probably will, happen.

However, I would love to hear YOUR thoughts! I need a shitload of literature, and I am currently collecting that. So far I've basically taken all the top 10 papers on Google Scholar about Bitcoin (the official paper, two Bitcoins at the price of one, how to make Bitcoin a better currency) and some others.

I am not trying to cover Bitcoin from a technical angle (besides 5-10 pages which is necessary to understand its implications), but from a business+society angle.

- What literature would you include? Any ideas is MUCH welcome and appreciated Smiley

What's your masters' in?
E-Business (a combination of business, law and technology).


Anyone else: Thanks for the input Smiley Of course, any science is in English, so the report will be written in English as well. Luckily Indians with PhD's in English cost 5-10$ an hour, so they can fix all that spelling/grammar stuff! :-D
I thought Indians were good in IT. Wrong tool for the right job eh?
1087  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What litterature to include for master thesis about Bitcoin? on: October 31, 2013, 01:25:43 AM
How many times can a person spell literature incorrectly in a post about a master thesis?


During the next six months, I am going to make a master thesis about Bitcoin.

Currently my working title is "Bitcoin as a disruptive technology". My main hypothesis is Bitcoin is changing the value chain in finance, which basically means huge disruptions can, and probably will, happen.

However, I would love to hear YOUR thoughts! I need a shitload of litterature, and I am currently collecting that. So far I've basically taken all the top 10 papers on Google Scholar about Bitcoin (the official paper, two Bitcoins at the price of one, how to make Bitcoin a better currency) and some others.

I am not trying to cover Bitcoin from a technical angle (besides 5-10 pages which is necessary to understand its implications), but from a business+society angle.

- What litterature would you include? Any ideas is MUCH welcome and appreciated Smiley
Thanks for your help. That really made a difference. (Oh yeah, and funny fact: most people on the forum is not born English speaker).

I am not one as well, but basic spell check can get point across better, and remove distractions Smiley
1088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is killing Western Union! on: October 31, 2013, 01:23:27 AM
Slightly extreme article, seems like a reaction piece to the WU stock oscillations. And even if the US authorities end up imposing the more extreme outcomes, Bitcoin will still survive in the US without a doubt, and it will continue to get used for remittance. It'll just be a huge advertisement for Bitcoin's international transfer advantages ("So dangerous to WU they tried to shut it down" etc). I think we all know that it's not disappearing from TCP/IP traffic anytime soon, whether or not it needs to be secreted in an encrypted sub-layer of the internet in the authoritarian US.

WU investors are right to be concerned long term though, it's dead in the water before the end of the 2010's.

The speed at which USD is getting irrelevant is no joke. The end to petrodollar is being invented right here in the US, thanks to Tesla Wink
1089  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: October 31, 2013, 12:58:07 AM
So how's Kevin doing?
1090  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 11:42:42 PM
Nice results, goxed.  What voltage are your boards at (once they're heated)?

The boards with good chips are at 0.9V, the ones with >=2 bad chips are at 0.95V

impressive. I cant get past 0.88v (39-41GH per board) without having chips or boards drop to 0 hashrate or produce massive3 error rates time to time
are you using heatsinks? especially on the regulator and the lower half of the board? I have put up a reference picture in this thread. if you copy that you should get the board up to 0.9v provided there's good airflow.

I have good heatsinks but perhaps could use slightly larger ones on the regulator/inductor. 0.865-0.87 is good for 40GH on my boards, but the pencil mod ramps up to maximum (or minimum?) resistance over a few days and its difficult to get the exact balance. once it climbs to >0.88v the boards become unstable and i see high error rates followed by entire boards or just some of the chips dropping to 0 every few hours and upkeep is a PITA.

i'm sure if i had cold air moving through the heatsinks (rather then the 21 C room temperature) I could reach 0.9V though, or at least achieve a stable 0.88v

If you have 40GH/s stable I think you are at the limit already. Kudos!
1091  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 11:19:56 PM
Nice results, goxed.  What voltage are your boards at (once they're heated)?

The boards with good chips are at 0.9V, the ones with >=2 bad chips are at 0.95V
   OC to .95V overkilled and must have heatsink + fan.
Depends, I have atleast 2 chips that are dead at anything less. Infact they are happy at 1.0V as well, but the regulator approaches its limits.
1092  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
Nice results, goxed.  What voltage are your boards at (once they're heated)?

The boards with good chips are at 0.9V, the ones with >=2 bad chips are at 0.95V

impressive. I cant get past 0.88v (39-41GH per board) without having chips or boards drop to 0 hashrate or produce massive3 error rates time to time
are you using heatsinks? especially on the regulator and the lower half of the board? I have put up a reference picture in this thread. if you copy that you should get the board up to 0.9v provided there's good airflow.
1093  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 09:34:51 PM
What is that monstrosity you have on the inductor?  Good gravy man, looks like a rhino ran it over. Grin

I tried to cut that heatsink to size with pliers. Guess I need a dremel Wink
1094  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 09:34:09 PM
Nice results, goxed.  What voltage are your boards at (once they're heated)?

The boards with good chips are at 0.9V, the ones with >=2 bad chips are at 0.95V
1095  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

Code:
speed:11042 noncerate[GH/s]:491.595 (2.386/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:504.965 good:13735 errors:264 spi-errors:3 miso-errors:0 jobs:116 (record[GH/s]:504.158)
0: 759 31.711 34.589 886 21 0 0
1: 818 37.653 38.606 1052 16 2 0
2: 873 40.373 40.957 1128 31 0 0
3: 878 37.080 38.843 1036 1 0 0
4: 876 37.832 39.583 1057 17 0 0
5: 819 36.042 36.201 1007 10 0 0
6: 878 39.120 39.055 1093 11 0 0
7: 875 40.373 41.803 1128 77 0 0
8: 877 40.480 40.772 1131 12 0 0
9: 876 37.545 39.980 1049 34 0 0
A: 878 38.905 39.795 1087 10 0 0
B: 872 40.444 40.244 1130 15 0 0
C: 763 34.038 34.536 951 9 1 0
1096  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 30, 2013, 07:23:09 PM
OK - not keeping up with all of this.
I see there are h-boards available on the website.  If I order one, when is the "expected" delivery?

In stock H boards ship immediately but they only work with the older M board.  I bought 4 of them and they are nice hashers right out of the box with no OC mods.  Averaging about 33GH/s per board.

These are good overclockers as well, but the price needs to be slashed for it to make business sense.
1097  Other / Off-topic / Funny Guy on: October 29, 2013, 03:18:05 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26539.0
1098  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 29, 2013, 12:43:50 AM
And what defines whether the cards run well vs turn into melted goo like seen in some of the other photos

Well, I suspect someone experimented with stuff that even bitfury himself said isn't worth the try. The issue is how to provide the 0.6-0.9V VDD for the chip. On the melted boards I don't see a power regulator (the thing that most people used to "pencil mod").

The chip was designed to support "chained VDD" configuration - in this case if let's say you have 5V power supply and you want to feed that into 8 chips you can chain them one after another and presuming everything works fine each of the chips will get 0.625V (or 5V/8chips). It's the same as wiring a bunch of christmas lights in series.
Everything works fine until one of them shorts. Then instead of each chip having 0.625V they'll get 0.71V (or 5V/7) which will make them produce more heat. When the next one fails the voltage goes to 0.83V (5V/6 chips), and with the next one it goes to 1V per chip. Etc, etc. etc.

So basically things turn from bad to worse very very quickly.

If you're interested in the technical details - that's a good place to start:
Single chips is quick & dirty. Yes I want more - ideally I would like to see board that is powered with 12 V strings and have no external components (costs) except chips and passive components.
But that won't be simple to get. But that's what I was aiming to actually blow off any other component vendors from bill of materials and do not make bottlenecks with turn-around-times and such with inductors, many power regulators and such.
But this is what again - likely can't be done quicky, only if very lucky and there should be no complex filtering/anti-resonance issue between chips in a string (you see - we now connect CMMINUS, CMQ, CMPLUS to GND).

what about if all the chips had parallel power, and the m-board (or an external PSU) simply provided 0.85V?

'It's no good providing 0.85V through M-board, because amperage would be huge, leading to overheating, voltage drops, etc.' Infact you can already measure a 0.1 - 0.2V drop across the fuse on the over clocked H-board Wink That's close to 1W heat dissipation.
That's why we get 110V / 200V through the mains, to reduce amperage for the same power.
1099  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 28, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
And what defines whether the cards run well vs turn into melted goo like seen in some of the other photos

Well, I suspect someone experimented with stuff that even bitfury himself said isn't worth the try. The issue is how to provide the 0.6-0.9V VDD for the chip. On the melted boards I don't see a power regulator (the thing that most people used to "pencil mod").

The chip was designed to support "chained VDD" configuration - in this case if let's say you have 5V power supply and you want to feed that into 8 chips you can chain them one after another and presuming everything works fine each of the chips will get 0.625V (or 5V/8chips). It's the same as wiring a bunch of christmas lights in series.
Everything works fine until one of them shorts. Then instead of each chip having 0.625V they'll get 0.71V (or 5V/7) which will make them produce more heat. When the next one fails the voltage goes to 0.83V (5V/6 chips), and with the next one it goes to 1V per chip. Etc, etc. etc.

So basically things turn from bad to worse very very quickly.

If you're interested in the technical details - that's a good place to start:
Single chips is quick & dirty. Yes I want more - ideally I would like to see board that is powered with 12 V strings and have no external components (costs) except chips and passive components.
But that won't be simple to get. But that's what I was aiming to actually blow off any other component vendors from bill of materials and do not make bottlenecks with turn-around-times and such with inductors, many power regulators and such.
But this is what again - likely can't be done quicky, only if very lucky and there should be no complex filtering/anti-resonance issue between chips in a string (you see - we now connect CMMINUS, CMQ, CMPLUS to GND).

I would add an extra chip in between for buffer.
1100  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 28, 2013, 11:20:51 PM
Dave, is there any chance that you will have extra V2 H boards for sale so we can add to our October kits?  I assume the boards that are currently available in the store are V1, correct?  I like to add a couple H boards of both varieties if possible.

I'm going to release V2 H boards at a new price - once we figure out how many we have available (so, after we ship all of October first, and may/may not be in November).  Yes, the boards currently in the store are for V1, however a number of people who ordered additional H-cards with their October starter kits will get the proper H-cards for their M-boards.



Hey Dave,

What are the V2 H boards? Are these the ones without caps, but the rest same as original H-boards?

Thanks
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