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1201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will this be 1:1? on: March 02, 2017, 02:31:02 AM
Bitcoin has a lot of upside potential, but gold's upside is limited. Gold may rise a bit if world economies screw up, but nothing like what Bitcoin is capable of.  Smiley
1202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] Zcash Speculation on: March 02, 2017, 01:33:56 AM
The price of Zcash seems to be really on fire for the past couple of days. From $26 to $40+.
This rally really caught me by surprise, considering that Bitcoin is also doing so well.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 26, 2017, 03:09:58 AM
Swansea have been hard nuts to crack and have been unbeaten in their last 3 meetings with Chelsea. They however have a horrible record against Chelsea in the Premier League. My call will be Chelsea winning this 3-1.

Got the scoreline right on that one.  Cool
Chelsea managed to win 3-1 against Swansea, after being tied 1-1 at half time. Swansea stunned Chelsea by equalizing just before half time and could have taken the lead if a penalty was awarded to them with the score on 1-1. Unfortunately, they were denied and Chelsea took the match by scoring a couple of goals in the latter part of the second half.
1204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO obligations on: February 26, 2017, 03:05:03 AM
And what happens when the escrow people have different judgement than some or many of the ICO investors?
Discord? "Oh well"? Suckers!

That is why the escrow has to be trusted. You need to have faith that the escrow will take the right decision in case of a dispute.
Obviously, it there is a dispute between the investors and the coin developers, the escrow's judgment will make one of the parties unhappy.
1205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Swiss Bank offers Participation certificate on Bitcoin (like a mini ETF) on: February 26, 2017, 02:58:46 AM
very interesting. this is good news!

This is old news. The newsbtc article is dated July 2016.
If there is no frenzy around it even now, it probably hasn't taken off.
1206  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Joinmarket - Coinjoin that people will actually use on: February 26, 2017, 02:56:53 AM
Is there anyway to get an idea of Joinmarket volumes (In terms of number of transactions or BTC)?
I think that transactions have dried up, due to higher transaction fees or other reasons. But I want to be sure about that...
1207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: February 25, 2017, 08:33:37 AM
i think ethereum can become an investment option once again soon.
it has started to show some signs of accumulation and small rises, and i believe since there has been some time when the dumping had begun, it is the time for a pump to come and  a big pump for that matter.
Bitcoin is in a good shape now which is not good news to any alt because much of the money that could be use to create pumps on the altcoins market now it is tied to bitcoin.

Not really. Once BTC reaches a high, people look to book profits.
They may convert their bitcoins to fiat or other alts as well. This could benefit the altcoin market as a whole.
1208  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE DUMP on: February 25, 2017, 06:10:33 AM
Just kiding guys Smiley

Currently celebrating ATH.  Cheers.

Lol what the fuck is going on? Why make this thread? Just to get some reactions out of people? See where the market was going to go? I don't see a crash happening, I truly don't. We had a tiny correction but it's holding very steady. No issues with staying over $1000 let alone $1100.

Yup, what we are seeing is consolidation. Some traders might take profits at these high levels.
I think we will be in the $1000-$1200 range for a few days, before making a move in either direction.
1209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] Zcash Speculation on: February 25, 2017, 05:58:20 AM
It could have reached the bottom.
Yeah it could, because we are on the small supply of the zcash coin.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/

750k zcash supply on the market.
But the creators can make extra coin without we know about them.
It means 21 million supply of zcash coin and another new supply will have been making by the dev.
sounds terrible in my ears.

I think the 21 million supply includes the 10% supply of the developers.
That way Bitcoin is a bit similar. Think of Satoshi's coins just sitting there. What would happen if they enter the market?
1210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 25, 2017, 05:52:12 AM
Chelsea vs Swansea , i will bet for Chelsea to win in this game .
Crystal Palace vs Middlesbrough , i will bet for Under 3.5 Goals .
Everton vs Sunderland , i will bet for Over 1.5 Goals .
Hull City vs Burnley , i will bet for Under 3.5 Goals .
I don't see Chelsea will get the problem to win this match look like Chelsea will win with easy nothing to worry, Chelsea now is in stable performance. Chelsea needs to still win all the match, a draw isn't good because of Machester City now uptrend so Chelsea needs to securing their position.

Swansea have been hard nuts to crack and have been unbeaten in their last 3 meetings with Chelsea. They however have a horrible record against Chelsea in the Premier League. My call will be Chelsea winning this 3-1.
1211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stay away from ICO on: February 23, 2017, 11:59:40 PM
Nowsaday, I don't think there is any ICO worth to invest anymore. I had so many bad ones lately. Better off purchase them after they released at the exchanges.

If you do your due diligence and see a coin with a radical new idea, you can consider investing.
Looking at altcoins just because they are available in an ICO is a sure shot way to lose most of your money.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 23, 2017, 11:54:09 PM
BREAKING NEWS - Claudio Ranieri was fired today!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39070927

This is bad news, Ranieri has been fired less than a year after leading Leicester City to the Premier League title. Nobody gave them a chance at the start of last season.
Admittedly, their performance this year has been bad. They are hovering near the relegation zone. But I don't think sacking Ranieri is going to help the team now.
1213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: zcash soon 0.2 btc! on: February 23, 2017, 11:37:00 PM
Well I've got a good feeling of ZEC's value in future...

The 20% god is going to pump it up good in upcoming days, in my opinion. Well that'll be good for sometime for the miners...

Zcash has recovered by 5% in BTC terms (and 10% in dollar terms today). The price has rebounded from $26.x to $29.x now.
These increases are good, but they are nothing compared to the fall in price we have seen this month.
Somebody who invested at the start of February has lost a lot of money, in spite of the rebound.
1214  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] Rollin.io Signature & Avatar Campaign on: February 23, 2017, 01:33:57 AM
Hey gp, just wanted to point out a small mistake in the spreadsheet my pay date is listed as 29 Feb but there is no 29 Feb this year  Cheesy
Very good point. I've adjusted your pay date to be on February 28th instead.

Hi Guitarplinker,
I guess my payment date would have to be changed to February 28th too.  Smiley
1215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: zcash soon 0.2 btc! on: February 21, 2017, 03:32:26 PM
Yeah i am sure soon will be only 20$!

I believe the fair price for zcash is $10, can you tell me who is using it in real world, virtually nobody so if there is no demand for this but only for speculative purpose then the bubble must burst. The only thing that would save the price is if one of these Dark markets decided to start accepting it

When we are all thinking about the price in dollar terms, the price in bitcoin terms has continued to drop.
The price is hovering around $30, while bitcoin is leaping up.
Right now, 1 BTC = 36 ZEC.
1216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Most Feminine Altcoins on: February 21, 2017, 03:29:26 PM
Among all the altcoins, I would say Monacoin has a feminine name.
I am not sure if it has women developers, or if it is popular amongst women, but it does have the most feminine sounding name.
1217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: February 19, 2017, 03:27:48 AM
I added CNY to the report:

   1  2013-11-30  1132.29 USD  |   1  2017-01-04  7930.09 CNY  |   1  2017-01-04  1045.93 EUR
   2  2013-12-04  1111.56 USD  |   2  2017-01-05  7503.71 CNY  |  2  2017-02-18   999.75 EUR
   3  2017-01-04  1088.45 USD  |   3  2013-11-30  7405.69 CNY  |  3  2017-02-17   990.91 EUR
   4  2013-11-29  1065.36 USD  |   4  2017-01-03  7389.84 CNY  |  4  2017-02-08   983.77 EUR
  5  2017-02-18  1060.53 USD  |  5  2017-02-08  7367.02 CNY  |   5  2017-01-03   978.51 EUR
   6  2013-12-03  1050.57 USD  |  6  2017-02-07  7347.40 CNY  |  6  2017-02-07   977.62 EUR
  7  2017-02-17  1049.51 USD  |   7  2017-01-02  7323.36 CNY  |  7  2017-02-16   974.94 EUR
  8  2017-02-08  1045.63 USD  |  8  2017-02-06  7245.30 CNY  |   8  2017-01-05   969.07 EUR
  9  2017-02-07  1043.50 USD  |  9  2017-02-05  7216.24 CNY  |   9  2017-01-02   967.42 EUR
  10  2017-02-16  1029.04 USD  |  10  2017-02-18  7184.08 CNY  |  10  2017-02-15   959.22 EUR
  11  2017-02-04  1022.99 USD  |  11  2013-11-29  7156.07 CNY  |  11  2017-02-14   953.93 EUR
  12  2017-02-06  1021.23 USD  |  12  2017-02-04  7141.35 CNY  |  12  2017-02-06   953.52 EUR
  13  2017-01-03  1020.56 USD  |  13  2017-02-03  7108.19 CNY  |  13  2017-02-04   951.30 EUR
  14  2017-02-05  1015.96 USD  |  14  2017-02-09  7053.26 CNY  |  14  2017-02-11   949.68 EUR
  15  2017-01-02  1013.00 USD  |  15  2017-01-01  7011.23 CNY  |  15  2017-02-12   946.24 EUR
  16  2017-02-03  1009.32 USD  |  16  2017-02-17  6989.63 CNY  |  16  2017-02-05   945.54 EUR
  17  2017-02-15  1009.09 USD  |  17  2016-12-29  6900.76 CNY  |  17  2017-02-03   942.26 EUR
  18  2017-02-11  1008.19 USD  |  18  2017-02-02  6879.06 CNY  |  18  2017-01-01   937.48 EUR
  19  2017-02-14  1006.66 USD  |  19  2016-12-28  6875.81 CNY  |  19  2017-02-13   937.09 EUR
  20  2017-01-05  1005.35 USD  |  20  2017-02-12  6839.98 CNY  |  20  2017-02-09   932.77 EUR
  21  2017-02-12  1002.34 USD  |  21  2017-02-16  6805.45 CNY  |  21  2016-12-29   927.36 EUR
  22  2013-12-02  1000.49 USD  |  22  2017-02-11  6799.59 CNY  |  22  2017-02-02   926.10 EUR
  23  2013-11-28   998.56 USD  |  23  2016-12-30  6788.41 CNY  |  23  2016-12-28   920.82 EUR
  24  2017-02-09   996.61 USD  |  24  2016-12-31  6783.99 CNY  |  24  2017-02-10   916.73 EUR
  25  2017-02-13   994.47 USD  |  25  2017-02-01  6781.34 CNY  |  25  2016-12-31   909.36 EUR
  26  2017-02-02   994.32 USD  |  26  2017-02-15  6767.66 CNY  |  26  2017-02-01   908.15 EUR
  27  2017-01-01   987.47 USD  |  27  2017-02-14  6742.89 CNY  |  27  2016-12-30   904.97 EUR
  28  2017-02-10   977.66 USD  |  28  2017-02-13  6699.90 CNY  |  28  2016-12-27   887.17 EUR
  29  2013-12-05   975.06 USD  |  29  2013-12-04  6670.54 CNY  |  29  2017-01-31   885.64 EUR
  30  2017-02-01   970.40 USD  |  30  2013-12-01  6614.08 CNY  |  30  2017-01-06   874.03 EUR
  31  2016-12-29   967.02 USD  |  31  2017-02-10  6597.18 CNY  |  31  2017-01-08   869.79 EUR
  32  2016-12-28   955.98 USD  |  32  2016-12-27  6585.48 CNY  |  32  2017-01-10   864.98 EUR
  33  2016-12-31   955.73 USD  |  33  2017-01-06  6534.62 CNY  |  33  2016-12-23   863.33 EUR
  34  2016-12-30   951.07 USD  |  34  2017-01-31  6527.05 CNY  |  34  2017-01-23   863.06 EUR
  35  2017-01-31   949.19 USD  |  35  2013-11-28  6521.05 CNY  |  35  2016-12-24   863.06 EUR
  36  2013-12-01   945.67 USD  |  36  2013-12-03  6494.28 CNY  |  36  2017-01-28   862.80 EUR
  37  2013-12-10   941.56 USD  |  37  2016-12-26  6473.41 CNY  |  37  2016-12-26   862.68 EUR
  38  2013-11-27   937.09 USD  |  38  2016-12-24  6465.82 CNY  |  38  2017-01-27   861.82 EUR
  39  2014-01-06   936.62 USD  |  39  2017-01-08  6410.55 CNY  |  39  2017-01-21   861.04 EUR
  40  2016-12-27   922.42 USD  |  40  2016-12-23  6391.22 CNY  |  40  2017-01-22   860.87 EUR
  41  2017-01-23   920.25 USD  |  41  2017-01-27  6373.54 CNY  |  41  2017-01-30   860.02 EUR
  42  2017-01-30   917.94 USD  |  42  2017-01-29  6367.85 CNY  |  42  2017-01-29   859.08 EUR
  43  2017-01-27   917.86 USD  |  43  2017-01-28  6367.75 CNY  |  43  2017-01-09   852.64 EUR
  44  2017-01-28   917.53 USD  |  44  2017-01-30  6358.18 CNY  |  44  2017-01-26   850.71 EUR
  45  2017-01-22   916.63 USD  |  45  2017-01-21  6353.36 CNY  |  45  2017-01-24   846.07 EUR
  46  2017-01-21   916.08 USD  |  46  2017-01-23  6351.54 CNY  |  46  2017-01-19   845.23 EUR
  47  2017-01-29   915.29 USD  |  47  2017-01-10  6349.53 CNY  |  47  2017-01-20   842.00 EUR
  48  2017-01-06   914.26 USD  |  48  2017-01-22  6347.55 CNY  |  48  2017-01-25   837.37 EUR
  49  2017-01-08   913.92 USD  |  49  2016-12-25  6288.50 CNY  |  49  2016-12-25   835.59 EUR
  50  2017-01-26   907.69 USD  |  50  2017-01-24  6284.66 CNY  |  50  2017-01-17   835.56 EUR


What is amazing about that chart is that there is no day from 2013 in the top 50 days of BTC-EUR.
That talks a lot about Euro's depreciation during the last 4 years, apart from Bitcoin's strength.
1218  Economy / Speculation / Re: When the all time high gets smashed on: February 19, 2017, 03:23:15 AM
Wow... If history repeats itself we are looking at a smashing of the ATH now.
What would be the new peak, my guess is $3K+. The magnitude of the increase has been lower each time.
$32 --> $260 -- $1200. I would be happy with a peak of $3k now.  Smiley
1219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Becoming rich owning all altcoins in 5 years? on: February 19, 2017, 03:19:09 AM
Would one be super rich if one now bought 1000 of each altcoin under a dollar at the time of this writing 5 years from now?

Do you know how many altcoins are there? Altcoins are a dime a dozen.
Hell, I would create an alt right now if I know I could make $1000 from you right away.
1220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 19, 2017, 03:15:56 AM
Chelsea vs Wolves.
Chelsea have not looked great so far, but I expect them to win 2-0. Wolves have played well this year, but their luck might not continue.
Chelsea have dominated the Wolves, winning 9 out of the last 10 matches against them.

I think that Chelsea will win but not so easily Wolves will play good but think that they can do much here
jjacob's prediction was right, its full time and the scoreline is 0:2, Cost and Pedro scored, Pedro has been on fire (at least in the FA cup), he has scored in each of the last three rounds, hopefully Costa scores again when we play EPL

Yup, got that one right. The half time scoreline of 0-0 was surprising, with the Wolves attacking quite a bit.
Chelsea managed to make up for that in the second half, scoring two goals. Costa and Pedro, the favourites, scored as usual. The second goal in the dieing minutes of the game was a bonus.
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