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1901  Economy / Goods / Re: [REDUCED 5%].99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) INVEST ! on: December 05, 2012, 05:32:58 AM
So if you are not careful casting in sterling silver, you wind up with a higher purity? That doesn't seem right.

He is right.  Note I am not vouching for the quality of his wares but his explanation is correct.

Imagine 1 oz of sterling silver.  It is 0.925 oz of pure silver and 0.075 oz of impurities (mostly copper).  By controlling the temp so it is ABOVE silver melting temp and BELOW copper melting temp what is molten isn't 1 oz it is ~0.925 oz* and it isn't 92% silver it is 100% silver.*  The rest remains solid in the crucible and doesn't get poured into the new form.  Now in this example you only have 0.925 oz not 1 oz so if you wanted to make a oz form you would need to add some more "pure" (normally 99.9 fine) silver.

* Now in the real world you will never get the temp exactly right.  Some of the copper will heat up to melting point and join the molten silver.  So you won't be able to exclude all the copper.  Also silver has other impurities which have a lower melting point so they are going to come along for the ride.  Still the point is that a significant portion of anything with a higher melting point than silver gets "left behind" and thus what gets poured into the form is higher quality.
Thank you. I used the example of 90% (a pre-1964 coin even though I don't melt coins) because the numbers are easier to work with. And I did mean 90% silver 10% impurities. I suppose I think in units. I would be thinking "ok, I have .9 of one unit (coin)-I need to add shot to make up for the .1 unit I don't have". And yes, melting to a temperature where just the silver melts and the copper completely doesn't is hard. When I get to the point where the silver is beginning to get molten I turn the gas down. When all the SILVER is melted I don't waste any time pouring it into the mold, so as to not melt any copper on accident. I literally have OCD, so I add extra silver shot every time, and I almost always end up above desired weight. And desired weight to me is the original pre-melt weight of (in this case) the coin. I suppose that is another component of my OCD. When I do something I do it right-to a painstaking point.
1902  Economy / Goods / Re: [REDUCED 5%].99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) INVEST ! on: December 05, 2012, 03:03:57 AM
Just ordered a bigger mold, going to melt all this (all the bullion I have) down. Ill give it tonight to see if anyone is interested.
1903  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any mobile wallet other than blockchain? on: December 05, 2012, 02:20:22 AM
Thanks for the easywallet info.

I just find blockchain kind of confusing and not what I'm looking for. Literally I just want a BTC address and a wallet-how hard is it to make an app that does that?

And yeah, screw Apple for all that. You guys know anything about whats available if you jailbreak?
1904  Economy / Goods / Re: [REDUCED 5%].99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) INVEST ! on: December 05, 2012, 01:48:35 AM
Yes, but obviously on a smaller scale. You guys have the math correct. The simplest way to put it is making the 7.5% the .1%. The example I discussed last night-you have .9 grams of 90% silver. When melting the silver (say its a coin), you add borax and heat only long enough for the silver to become molten (you already added .1 grams of shot which has purity of .99 to make a gram of pure silver), and then you pour into the mold. I have recently gotten into melting. Initially I just had a crucible and I'd melt everything in there to make a round. this was 92.5% silver. Now I have a graphite mold. The borax helps, but silver melts at 1761 degrees F and copper melts at 1981 degrees F. That discrepancy of 200 degrees means a significant amount of time in heating (all I use is a pencil torch with MAPP gas). If you watch any video on youtube of people melting silver, right when it is about to reach its melting point the melter picks it up (w/tongs of course) and shakes it around. It looks like a silver egg yolk. What's happening is they're capturing all the silver on the walls of the crucible before they pour into the mold. The copper stays in the crucible. You can see in this picture of my melting gear:

1905  Economy / Goods / Re: [SOLD] 1933 Gold Indian Head Coin: EXACT copy - I thought it was real. 0.5 BTC on: December 05, 2012, 12:28:41 AM
Also, that was post #69 for me
1906  Economy / Goods / Re: [SOLD] 1933 Gold Indian Head Coin: EXACT copy - I thought it was real. 0.5 BTC on: December 05, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Too bad you didn't put this on Bitmit as an auction. You *may* have got much more for it.
I've seen trade listings for copy coins made in China so this may be where it originated. They are very cheap in bulk if anyone has ideas about sourcing these.
Seriously? Even disclosing that they aren't real?
I guess you're one of these guys who believes the US govt has the right to control everything on the planet. Fuck that.
Are you referring to me? Did you look at my signature at the bottom of each of my posts? I'm about as Libertarian as it gets. I was just asking if the things went for so much because people thought they were real gold or if they knew they weren't real gold but wanted them anyway. I don't know how you gathered an assumption on my beliefs on politics from that post!
1907  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Selling] US Silver dollars on: December 05, 2012, 12:06:58 AM
BTC are high
I'll give you 2 for a Peace Dollar.
1908  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] [Starting from 0.1 BTC] 4,000 YouTube views on: December 05, 2012, 12:00:40 AM
.12
1909  Economy / Goods / Re: [SOLD] 1933 Gold Indian Head Coin: EXACT copy - I thought it was real. 0.5 BTC on: December 04, 2012, 11:24:10 PM
Too bad you didn't put this on Bitmit as an auction. You *may* have got much more for it.
I've seen trade listings for copy coins made in China so this may be where it originated. They are very cheap in bulk if anyone has ideas about sourcing these.
Seriously? Even disclosing that they aren't real?
1910  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 1 oz 2012 Silver Canadian Maple Leaf *Bottom Dollar* on: December 04, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
pictures?
1911  Economy / Goods / Silver 1904S Barber Half Dollar on: December 04, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
Hi,
Up for sale is a 1904S Barber Half in VG shape-VG meaning all borders remain and all writing is easily eligible. This coin is worth more than just its melt value. Even in poor condition it is valued at $20. Its melt value is $12.5, if you were curious. Please refer to this page for more details: http://cointrackers.com/coins/13790/1904-barber-half-dollar/

I am asking 1.25 BTC and I think that is a very fair price. I would like to sell this quickly so I can purchase another item on here. Please message me. I'll give you BTC address and you give me mailing address (shipping included).

Thanks!


1912  Economy / Goods / Re: .99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) [Willing to Deal]! on: December 04, 2012, 08:01:19 AM
Thanks fellas. I have an old elementary arithmetic book I think I should post on here. I know at least one person who could really use it.
1913  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 10 BTC 4 U 2 STEAL - Protected by a weak 5-letter password - crack & it's yours! on: December 04, 2012, 07:56:03 AM
1 BTC for the password
1914  Economy / Goods / Re: .99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) [Willing to Deal]! on: December 04, 2012, 03:06:05 AM
Even simpler for you, cause I think you might need it: IT'S CALLED TURNING THE 7.5% INTO THE .1%
1915  Economy / Goods / Re: .99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) [Willing to Deal]! on: December 04, 2012, 02:55:32 AM
Sure. I guess you've never melted metals before or are framiliar with your melting points. Sterling silver is 92.5% silver and 7.5% an alloy, usually of copper and zinc. The melting temperature of silver is relatively low-compared to the copper alloy anyway. And no magic here-just something called borax. Find it in your detergent aisle. It lowers the melting temperature of the silver AND removes impurities so they never even make it into the mold!
Also, there's something called math that comes into play. I'll simplify things for you. Say you have .9 grams of 90% silver. So, to make it more pure you add .1+ grams of silver shot (basically pure silver).
Have you ever wondered why you've never seen something that is 100% pure silver? Kind of funny all you see is .99, huh? IMPURITIES EXIST AND ARE INEVEITABLE. Come talk to me when you make that 100% silver ingot, Albert Einstein.
1916  Economy / Goods / Re: .99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously)! on: December 04, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
I might be interested, but one question I have is that of resale value.  Is there an easy way to test a silver ingot like this for purity and legitimacy?  In other words, if I wanted to sell it to someone else, how could they be assured that it is legitimately .99 purity silver?
yeah-you can buy test kits on ebay, amazon, whatever
to add: There are tests you can do without any equipment (check ehow or something). They obviously won't tell you spot-on what silver content is, but they can easily let you know that what you have is solid silver. Like I have a friend who bought one of those fake Chinese Nazi Silver Bars (idiot) and w/simple tests it was SO easy to prove the thing was fake. It was coated in the thinnest layer of silver and made of iron or something.
1917  Economy / Goods / ALL SOLD [REDUCED 5%].99 Silver Below Spot (Seriously) INVEST ! on: December 03, 2012, 11:53:42 PM
I am reducing the price of each of these by 5%. I need X-Mas money!
Up for sale are four .99 Silver ingots that I smelted. I melt scrap jewelry (925) and add the appropriate amount of silver shot to achieve .99 purity. Though these bars may not look like one straight from the mint, SILVER IS SILVER. The precious metal value is the same. And here you have an opportunity to buy BELOW spot. Any officially minted piece of bullion is never offered at spot-it is spot plus a surcharge or a percentage.
Spot today is $33.67/oz, and its surpassed $34/oz a few days recently. Here are my prices (consider 12.5/BTC) including shipping anywhere in the US:
1) 0.87 oz ingot: $26.27 = 2.1016 BTC
2) 0.97 ingot: $29.1 = 2.328 BTC
3) 1 oz ingot: $29.50 = 2.36 BTC
4) 1.1 oz ingot: $31.90 = 2.552 BTC







Now, 12.5 is a fair BTC rate. Also, as you can see in the pictures, some of my bars are slightly overweight. I knew I would learn some silver in the melting process, so I compensated with extra shot-thats the reason for that. Silversmithing is truly an art.

Please message me if interested. I am willing to deal if you buy more than one ingot.
1918  Economy / Goods / Re: Dank Metal - Silver for BTC @ $30/oz on: December 03, 2012, 08:06:43 PM
how much for silver dollar? trade for .99 ingots?
1919  Economy / Goods / Re: $5 Dollars on: December 03, 2012, 09:49:43 AM
btw, just checked the site you run. good for you. sites very professional and the cause is definitely a good one.
1920  Economy / Goods / Re: $5 Dollars on: December 03, 2012, 09:47:52 AM
But I could just print that from my computer here for less.
you got an epson?
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