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2141  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 08, 2018, 11:28:18 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.new#new

Ive spent the last 2 days getting answers of where their premine went.  5 pages! And the answer to where the premine went to, i got told "check the block explorer".

They claimed to have doctors on board and they were given $10k worth of coin.  Ok great i asked which ones and give me the contact info so i can see how they plan to distribute the medic to their patients.  I was told "dont bother them".  Hmmm okay

So now its clear they mined for 10 days when all the blocks were 100,000 per block (once announced to the public they are now only 199 coins a block).  They ammassed somewhere around 150 million coins.  And you need 200,000 coins for a masternode....so guess who keeps all the masternodes, you got it.  The developers unless you want to buy their coins at an inflated rate on the market.  

I literally got no answer about their premine except some deflected answers not about addressing my questions.  And finally was told there is a time for everything and now isnt the time to disclose that information  Cool

I think we all know where this one is headed.  On some masternode stats they show up as one of the most profitable.  There is very low volume on exchanges for this coin so i imagine they are buying and selling their own coins (can not confirm this) to achieve a high per coin cost.  I would hate to see inncocent people get burned but this one looks bad.

I know how you feel. Any answers have to be dragged out of them and most of the time it is just deflection, distraction, partiial answers and being ignored. Questions are just buried in a load of "I love medic coin because <insert some claim without evidence> by a newbie or Jr account and all of their posts are on the medic coin thread or some other coin that pays bounties for hyping it. The reason I use this format in the accusation thread is so I can add the answers as they become available and so that people can easily see the information without having to read 48 pages of self praise with the occasional question or partial answer in it. Coins have premines but the way this premine was done in combination with high reward masternodes the control and profit being made is purely for the person or group of people that started it.

Block chain can easily be used for proof and transparency. The only reason not to be transparent while asking for people to invest is if you have something to hide.

30% premine with high masternode stake rewards has effectively resulted in an estimated 80-90% premine of current circulating coins.

2142  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic Coin Scam? Hidden 30% Premine used for Masternodes? on: April 08, 2018, 10:02:17 AM

Now we know why you came over to our thread and accused us.  You are working with Bible Pay Coin!  Another competitor coin accused of another coin.

Nope - They came over because some of the Medic Coin (MEDIC) community claimed to be part of the team and made false accusations which can be viewed here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247456.0

That resulted in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256150.0

You cleared up the false claims made by your community and answered honestly.

Once the false accusations were proven false people started looking at other aspects of Medic coin. Your community brought about the scrutiny due to lies that they told.

Now it requires transparency to regain trust. There are people who are on bitcointalk that bust scams. You have now met some of them.

Answer the questions honestly and transparently and if the answers quell their concerns they will go away.
2143  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 06, 2018, 09:02:41 PM


Node locations:

26 USA
7 France
5 Germany
4 Canada
3 South Africa
3 Australia
2 Vietnam
2 UK
2 Japan
2 Turkey
1 Ireland
2144  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 06, 2018, 09:01:05 PM


I have not found an LLC - What is the company name ? How is the $40 million calculated ? What assets does it have ?
Hanson Nguyen stated in the Linkedin profile that MedicCoin is a $40 million company. -  had been changed to community leader, no ceo or anything.  this is not a company.  MedicCoin is not a $40 million company, because it is not a company.



So far it is believed that they spent the following on exchange listings:
1 BTC Cryptobridge
3 BTC Alpha Beta
0.5 BTC Stocks.exchange
0.0524 BTC (20000 CROC) CryptoHub
? iQuant
? Masternodexchange
2145  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 06, 2018, 12:43:26 AM


If I had bought a $58558.70 masternode on 28 January 2018 and held it for a month:

Price        Reward            Value                       Cost / Total value including node:
0.269   2858.1376   768.8390144      58558.7
0.204   2858.1376   583.0600704      
0.252   2858.1376   720.2506752      
0.206   2858.1376   588.7763456      
0.174   2858.1376   497.3159424      
0.196   2858.1376   560.1949696      
0.169   2858.1376   483.0252544      
0.121   2858.1376   345.8346496      
0.176   2858.1376   503.0322176      
0.172   2858.1376   491.5996672      
0.135   2858.1376   385.848576      
0.163   2858.1376   465.8764288      
0.74   2858.1376   2115.021824      
0.157   2858.1376   448.7276032      
0.172   2858.1376   491.5996672      
0.158   2858.1376   451.5857408      
0.19   2858.1376   543.046144      
0.186   2858.1376   531.6135936      
0.204   2858.1376   583.0600704      
0.202   2858.1376   577.3437952      
0.179   2858.1376   511.6066304      
0.143   2858.1376   408.7136768      
0.136   2858.1376   388.7067136      
0.16   2858.1376   457.302016      
0.159   2858.1376   454.4438784      
0.162   2858.1376   463.0182912      
0.165   2858.1376   471.592704      
0.109   2858.1376   311.5369984      
0.12   2858.1376   342.976512      
0.154   2858.1376   440.1531904      
0.115   2858.1376   328.685824      
      16714.3886848   22999.885   39714.2736848

Then I would have made a $ 18844.42 LOSS on my investment.




It is being advertised using incorrect fiat values.
2146  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 06, 2018, 12:42:33 AM




It appears over 80% of the coins in circulation are from a premine controlled by a small group of family and friends of Hansen Nguyen

Specific requests were made but only vague answers were given. There appears to be no transparency.

By having a massive premine they also control most of the masternodes and get the majority of the masternode rewards.

It appears that they are using people who are sick or in financial distress (poverty) to promote their coin. Without providing any tangible proof that "the coin" is helping any of those people.
*receipts provided allowing tax benefits were in other peoples names and not medic coin.

Despite asking for tangible proof there is no proof that any donations have been made - by the coin.

Despite asking for tangible proof there is no proof that any doctors or patients have benefitted from the coin.

It is annoying that rather than answering questions in a straightforward manner there is an attempt to drown out any genuine concerns by a small number of shills and sockpuppets


Edit: Finally some answers are forthcoming.

We do use the premine to list the coin on 6 exchanges and use to payout salary for making MedicWalk proof of sweat app, android wallet, iOS wallet, linux wallet, windows wallet, etc.  We also use it to pay for marketing.  We also use it to pay for our day and night work on bitcointalk, discord, telegram, twitter, sponsor events, etc.  As you know, we use fiat to payout for most of the development because there is no volume to sell Medic Coin

We are using that to build products for the coin.  We already have our MedicWalk in beta testing.  We already have proof of folding working and paid out daily.  The volume is so low.  You can see that on all the exchanges the maximum number of MEDIC coin on sale is about 450,000 MEDIC and none of that is our.  When there is no volume, we let the investors sell them.  So basically right now we are working for free and hope we get payout later when more people adopt MEDIC.

We planned to use about 80 million of the premined coins on MedicWalk, Foldingathome, etc.

2147  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 06, 2018, 12:17:20 AM
Some screenshots of comments by others are crossposted to here due to their thread being self moderated and some comments being deleted or being drowned out by shill and sockpuppet accounts.





2148  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 05, 2018, 10:58:02 PM
2149  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 05, 2018, 10:57:34 PM
Medic Walk and Folding at Home require medic coins.  We reward them for walking and folding.  So we reserve Medic Coin for those projects.  We donated about $10k in Medic Coin to each physician who signed up to use our EMR so they can help their patients stay compliant with their medications/ treatment plans.  Very good questions.  Thank you for asking.

The donations and charities event were donated from our money.  We believe in philanthropy work.

Thats great! What doctors have recieved medic coin for that program? Very interesting

And how much was given to each one of the team members.  What is the address associated with those accounts?

We are proud to show our merchants page.  http://medicmerchants.com/  .  Remember Medic Coin is only four months old so give us times to grow.  

Who is the doctors name or person at those places that have recieved medic coin.  I would like to ask them about their customer distribution and how they plan to handle that.  Thanks

Dont want this to get buried, interested in knowing how the doctors handle this, can you give me some points of contact for those medical professionals that have recieved $10k in medic to give to their clients, thank you

Please don't bother them.  We are not going to give you the number so you can call their offices and bother them.  They are busy seeing patients.  We trust them to do whatever with the funds that we gave them.  

No evidence of any of the claims made. Every question is dodged and deceptive answers given.
2150  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 05, 2018, 10:39:42 PM


Email address is linked to a real estate agent.



and a slots app on google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sahifa.SlotsForFun
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sahifa.SlothGames&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sahifa.FreeSlotsCleopatra&hl=en

Which links to a website that rates Medic Coin as the top masternode. https://cryptomat.com/






The other site that listed them as top masternode https://masternodes.pro/disclaimer has private domain registration.
The company name and address:
MasterNodes.Pro, LLC
PO BOX 131 Gainesville, MO 65655 could not be found on the business registry: https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/businessentity/besearch.aspx?searchtype=0
2151  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 05, 2018, 10:16:40 PM
5 Vietnamese surnames account for over 80 million of the population.   The wallet is free to download for everyone.

So they are not related ? They are not family ?
some are and some are not.  

How is each team member related to each other ?
Hansen Nguyen  
Anna Nguyen
Donna Nguyen
Monica Nguyen
Ha Ly
Aaron Do
Sah Do
Brian Tran
Brianna Tran

Which ones are NOT family ?

They are family.  We don't want to put our workers up because we are afraid that other people will recruit them.  The family team are moderators and community maerketer as the title said.  I am not sure what else to say about what they do because the title said everything.  Like "Global Moderator" means they moderate our Discord, telegram, facebook, etc.  Community liaison means she goes around and talk to people and business about Medic Coin.  "Dental community Liason" means he talks about MedicCoin to other dental students. 
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2152  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 05, 2018, 10:01:22 PM
MEDIC is a fork of Crave. The core developer of MEDIC was paid to create the coin.



2153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ❤ Medic Coin ❤ Folding@Home GPU Mining ROI 650% MASTERNODE TeleMedicine on: April 05, 2018, 09:58:01 PM


Nice claim that "Medic coin" paid for it.

Why is "Hansen Nyugen" claiming the tax credit ?


2154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ❤ Medic Coin ❤ Folding@Home GPU Mining ROI 650% MASTERNODE TeleMedicine on: April 05, 2018, 09:54:28 PM
#MedicCoin helps women micro-entrepreneurs.  Women are our mothers.  We respect and worship women.



Amita's story
Amita is 43-years-old, married, and hails from the Imphal West District, Manipur. She is engaged in an embroidery business. Her household has four members and the monthly income is INR 11,000. She wants to increase her monthly income by the purchase of more raw materials for her embroidery business. She makes blouses, shawls, bedsheets, etc.

She has applied for loan of INR 30,000 from Chanura, one of Milaap's field partners. She and her family will be thankful to their lenders for this financial support.



$475 by 15 lenders
2155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 05, 2018, 09:40:20 PM


LOL - Medic Coin shills still trying to defend the indefensible.

Coin Dev - says it is not the same coin.

Github - says it is not the same coin.

Now just making up more lies to bury the lies.

Last three posters are clearly sockpuppets or shills.

Just keep lying - there will be a permanent record of it.




or


If you are going to blatantly tell lies it pays to make sure you don't say things that are inconsistent with what the other shills are saying
2156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MEDIC Coin on: April 05, 2018, 01:08:50 PM
Full scam accusation can be seen here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256150.0
2157  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic Coin Scam? Hidden 30% Premine used for Masternodes? on: April 05, 2018, 11:29:14 AM
You can read about their attempted scam here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256150.0 and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247456.0
2158  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 05, 2018, 09:44:40 AM




Nice claim that "Medic coin" paid for it.

Why is "Hanson Nyugen" claiming the tax credit ?





It is from the goodness of the donor's heart.  Nice job donating $1000 to the refugees.  Please do the same.  Syrian refugees need our help.  We should send more goods and money to the refugees.

That doesn't answer the question. Why are you dodging the question ?

The claim is that "Medic coin" paid for it. Why is "Hansen Nyugen" claiming the tax credit ?

2159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 05, 2018, 09:21:20 AM
    any exchange can add any policy any time , i am talking about policy when coin is listed and trading , they have changed policy later , withoutt notification, do you understand this , CRYPTOPIA IS SCAM , AND THEY GIVE FAKE VOLUME TO NEWLY LISED COIN FOR 1 MONTH IN ORDER TO CONFUSE PEOPLE     , BECAUSE YOU ARE SHOUTING TOO MUCH HERE SO I have decided to create a video about cryptopia and expose there working , then you keep posting your comments there in bold text,

any keep this word in your mind we are not interested in listing in cryptopia , a scam exchange , this thread is created to tell coin developer to stay away from cryptopia , there are lot more option then cryptopia rather then this ,

Screenshot u are showing is after cryptopia ask to pay again , after detail investigation we found

CRYPTOPIA CREATE FAKE VOLUME  for newly listed coin in order to provide coin developer that there EXCHANGE is useful to them
CRYPTOPIA FORCE COIN DEVELOPER TO BUY THERE COIN, THERE COIN IS SHIT NO VALUE BEYOND EXCHANGE
THEY HARASH COIN DEVELOPER IN CASE THEY ASK FOR ANY CHANGE, FOR EVERY CHANGE THEY DEMAND  MONEY

when after someday coin volume goes down , and when coin developer ask they say , your coin is of no use your marketing is poor we cant do anything , buy our featured slot
to increase volume and  when coin developer buy that then again they give fake volume


this is how cryptopia work

    


Ive posted this already earier. I think you might be illiterate. Posted: 4/17/2016 8:34:43 AM https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/620?postId=11749


There is no fake volume - unlike some other exchanges. Volume is displayed publicly and transparently. A percentage of that gross volume is paid directly to CEFS holders.

I've proven repeatedly that you are a compulsive liar. Anyone can see that by reading this thread.

It is making the hyperinflationary shitcoin Medic coin community look super dodgy and a scam

GOOGLE KEYWORDS: MEDIC COIN SCAM - WARNING DO NOT GET SCAMMED - fraudulent claims made by their coin community .

Their self moderated thread is inhabited by shills and sockpuppets to scam you into thinking it is a worthwhile project.

Further scam accusation can be viewed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256150.0

 
2160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 05, 2018, 03:58:42 AM
Hi , i am from medic coin and we have listed our coin in Cryptopia in 2015 and everything is going good , i hardly notice coin activity and sales in there exchange , but after few months i noticed they have delisted our coin without any mail or information

This is not a scam.

They delist your coin due low volume. Last time I've checked it was allowed according their ToS. And they did the right thing. Supporting dead coins doesn't help them of the coin dev anyway.



The OP is trying to scam. They are trying to use a dead coin with the same name to get their hyperinflationary shitcoin listed without paying the required fee.

The github shows Medic Coin (MEDIC) is not a coinswap or fork of MedicCoin (MDC)

Medic Coin (MEDIC) a fork of medic-EMR which is a fork of openemr.

Even the official Medic Coin (MEDIC) dev admits the coins are in no way related.

It is like claiming you are John Smith born in 2015 and therefore entitled to 10 BTC in services when you are John Smith born in 2017

It isn't just claimed here. They actually tried the scam to get their coin listed for free. (Confirmed by Cryptopia admin).

According to the Medic Coin (MEDIC) they are not part of their official team.



ITS LIKE JOHN WICK HAVE CHANGED CLOTHS IN 2017 AND YOU ARE SAYING YOU NEED TO PAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR CLOTHS , EITHER WEAR SAME 2015 CLOTHS OR PAY AGAIN,

next time use more big font, so that you can defend your scam cryptopia , how much they paid you to do this , 0.1 BTC or 1 btc
 


Are you seriously so stupid that you are disagreeing with the Medic Coin (MEDIC) dev and with documented github links that prove that the coins are not related ?

MDC      33,000,000 blockchain maximum supply
MEDIC 500,000,000 blockchain maximum supply https://explorer.mediccoin.com/block/974c66768a079b1ddc38613e6733cba24470c7b50c7ccae64240e42178aedf9d Genesis Block number 1 was on 3rd Jan 2018 10:42:38



If you read their delisting policy - you will find that with the false accusations you have made that it is unlikely to be ever get listed on there now - even if you manage to raise the funds  

Rokon123
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If you look at their post history all are Medic Coin shills.
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