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1541  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 08, 2018, 12:53:22 AM

No problem. I understand his irony.
I probably also could not resist joking if someone English-speakers went to the Russian section.


I'm a moderator on another site. I speak very limited Russian but I try.
I know sometimes some the Russians poke fun at me. Sometimes it is clever and funny.
Some of the subtle sarcasm is very hard to detect.  Grin
1542  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 08, 2018, 12:11:14 AM
Where did you get that I do not like the comments?

My apologies. I misinterpreted this post:

No one is asking for encouragement. Just leave sellers alone.

Let me have another shot at it. Does it mean this:

https://www.marsvenus.com/blog/lauren-gray/what-leave-me-alone-actually-means-in-a-relationship

Quote
Meaning #1: “I’m very upset with you. You did something to piss me off and I’m not available for intimacy. It’s not going to be easy for you to make this better. You screwed up dude. You better fight to make it up to me.”

How do I make it up to you?

Once again, for those who can not calm down  Grin

THEME IS NOT ABOUT SELLERS! JUST LEAVE SELLERS ALONE!  Cheesy



I'm confused. I just read the part:
But…what if she lies?


By the way your post has received merits. Can I clarify for what?  Roll Eyes


I gave Suchmoon merit because it is funny. I almost choked on my coffee when I read it.
In my opinion Suchmoon is one of the most entertaining quality posters on bitcointalk.
(also doesn't need any merit because they are a merit source and cannot rank up any further - so it is purely for the quality of the post)
1543  Other / Meta / Re: Let's spam Bitcointalk - bumping services - auto-bots! on: August 07, 2018, 11:51:27 PM
Another day another spammy messages in a self-moderated topic [ANN][ICO]--SCAVO-- LARGE-SCALE SELF-SUSTAINING CRYPTO MINING FARM

Those topics need to be added to the watch list, some users are just spamming!
BrokerNekoNetwork...
[ANN] 🔥🔥🔥 Exereum 1:1 Ethereum based fork 🔥🔥🔥]

Is it true? Too many questions in this topic. Seems those auto-bots getting smarter? [👟BOUNTY👟] ProjectDresscode - Wear the blockchain - [Telegram, SM, Ambassador]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4563202.msg43679904#msg43679904

I started asking questions on there too !  Grin  Roll Eyes
1544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [👟BOUNTY👟] ProjectDresscode - Wear the blockchain - [Telegram, SM, Ambassador] on: August 07, 2018, 11:48:59 PM
I got interested in the project. At the same, i didn’t find a list of vacancies. Who can help to develop the project, given the development program?   

Is it possible to use the tokens earned during the bounty campaign to buy clothes? I like the ongoing raffles very much.   

Is it possible to make pauses when working within the framework of bounty? Or is it necessary to post entries about the project regularly?     

What chips will the project use for goods? What’s this technology? What are the costs?

WOW so many questions from noobie accounts. Could they be shills ?  Grin

A shill is a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others.




I have a question too !
Is this a sign of dishonesty ?
1545  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 11:36:27 PM

All that is really useful, appeared when the forum consisted of enthusiasts.

I agree that the early forum was very different to the way it was now. It was very development focused from every angle. A huge amount of enthusiasm and innovation happened then.

It still happens but it is harder to find - between the regurgitated topics, bounty, ann and other spam topics.

It is progress...  Roll Eyes

But that is the nature of "mass adoption" of crypto. We are in the manic phase.

On some of the exchanges I trade we were chatting to the owner developers on an almost daily basis - just daily gossip. Two years later I can hardly get an email back from them because they are swamped with work. All development work is now handled by their many staff.

Developers have retreated because it is hard to deal with "the masses" of uninformed people riding the crypto mania wave. They have retreated to other methods of communication to extend their development work.
1546  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 11:22:44 PM
I am sure that they stopped doing it after mdayonliner's topic. At least the last one was 29 june. But several persons have got a lot of merit using this way. Personally I consider it like a fraud.

There is no ideal system. Personally I see some speculations in such case.

I understand that opinion.

Personally I think it was an experiment with good intention from the moderators. But it had potential for abuse and resulted in "industrial scale" reporting.

It was also flawed in the sense where it was open to abuse by people with bad intent. The moderators saw this and abandoned those methods.

I don't see a problem with trying something to see if it works and when it is pointed out that it had flaws they abandoned it. I think it shows initiative but also shows that they listened to the feedback objectively.

It also should be taken into account that the Ukraine and Russia are known spam locations and Russian trolls are among the worlds best.

With just two moderators on the largest local language board they have a big workload.

1547  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 10:53:51 PM

Ordinary sellers act as intermediaries. Farmers, those who create their own accounts, it is easier to buy merit. Or is the fact that Teymos, without knowing it himself, created an additional black market for Merit sales, is news for you too?

Snitchers are those who seek out sellers or buyers and complain about giving in the form of a merit.

So what you are saying is that the merit farmers sell merit to the account farmers which sell the accounts to the account sellers.

Just because the "subcontract" the merit farming - the account farmers are still the ones that want the merit.

If it is costing account farmers to by merit then the system is working - it means less accounts and the accounts will cost more.

It means the merit discouragement is working.


I still don't see why the "informers" and other "rascals" want merit - unless they are part of the account farming enterprise.
1548  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 10:33:35 PM

It is generally account farmers and bounty chasers that complain about the merit system. They are the only ones disadvantaged by it.

Let it be known to you that the "farmers of accounts" do not need merits for nothing.
What can not be said about informers and other rascals.

Perhaps you can explain that in further detail. This will be interesting.

Account farmers don't need merit to rank up their accounts so they can sell it for more ? So they can use those accounts in bounty and signature campaigns ?

What do the "rascals" and "informers" need the merits for ?
1549  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 10:14:09 PM
Bots and spam - caused by account farmers that sell the accounts to other users for bounty and signature campaigns or use the farmed accounts themselves for bounty or signature campaigns.

Yeah or use merit for promotion new accounts. Is that right?  Wink

I think if you read the link I posted much earlier - it was all discussed there. Using merit to reward spam reporters is no longer done by the Russian moderators because account farmers were abusing that method of awarding merit.

It was not the moderators or merit source that were abusing it - it were the account farmers that were manipulating the system.

It is generally account farmers and bounty chasers that complain about the merit system. They are the only ones disadvantaged by it.

The merit system was designed to disadvantage them - the complaints prove the merit system works as intended.

Perhaps you shouldn't post anything. Because if you don't create a conversation then you won't get any replies.  Grin

I gave a vivid example of how merites are pumped. But I did not receive a sensible answer. But I received accusations that I am a seller.
Or in the world of white people, the seller has no right to speak?  Grin

I gave a comprehensive explanation here:

I didn't repeat the whole thread where it was discussed  - but I did post a link to it so you could read what was already discussed at length without having to repeat the whole entire conversation again.


My Russian is not good but I do read a lot in the Russian topic section. But I live in an English speaking country. I can assure you that there is a noticable difference in the English grammar used by esmanthra and by xandry. They are definitely not the same person.

Xandry is a merit source and will have given merit to mainly Russian speaking topics which would link him to almost every Russian account.
With a merit source there are always going to be people that they merit more because they like their work.
The deleted/off topic posts were explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.0



1550  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:59:59 PM
Black (red) in white says that sales are not prohibited! All the rest is advisory in nature.

If it were prohibited you'd be banned. But it's not prohibited so you're not banned, you just have an "advisory" on your trust profile.

No, you do not read me. I wrote to you in English that they do not discuss you or me here. My profile does not need anybody's recommendations.  Wink

Perhaps you shouldn't post anything. Because if you don't create a conversation then you won't get any replies.  Grin

I disagree. Fraud is where there is "mens rea". (Definition: The intention or knowledge of wrongdoing, as opposed to the action or conduct).

They were using the merit system in a different way to it was intended but not without the same goals of reducing spam in mind.

Really? Spam is over? Don't be fool, if there is way using something for profit they will do it.

Have you seen some of the other local boards ? The Russian section is extremely tidy in comparison.

Are you kidding? Russian section still contains ~3,400,000 posts that's 10 times more than any other local board. I would say more, that many old russian users left this forum due to permanent spam and bots.

Bots and spam - caused by account farmers that sell the accounts to other users for bounty and signature campaigns or use the farmed accounts themselves for bounty or signature campaigns.

The Russian section was the first local board to be introduced and by far the largest and most active local board. I feel sympathy for the moderators.
1551  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:40:22 PM
Rules also state that account sales are discouraged - which implies that there is a potential consequence.

No one is asking for encouragement. Just leave sellers alone.

Discourage definition : prevent or try to prevent (something) by showing disapproval or creating difficulties.

Create difficulties for these scammers, which are quite a lot here.
If the seller cheated, then such a seller should be punished.
But punishment can not be just because I'm a salesman.
Is it logical?

If you sell someone a gun - in a lot of countries you will be charged as an accessory to the crime that is committed with the gun.

If you sell an account and get caught - then you ignored the "discouraged" part of the rule.
18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
1552  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:28:10 PM
Rules also state that account sales are discouraged - which implies that there is a potential consequence.

No one is asking for encouragement. Just leave sellers alone.

Discourage definition : prevent or try to prevent (something) by showing disapproval or creating difficulties.
1553  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:26:11 PM
I disagree. Fraud is where there is "mens rea". (Definition: The intention or knowledge of wrongdoing, as opposed to the action or conduct).

They were using the merit system in a different way to it was intended but not without the same goals of reducing spam in mind.

Really? Spam is over? Don't be fool, if there is way using something for profit they will do it.

Have you seen some of the other local boards ? The Russian section is extremely tidy in comparison.
1554  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:17:51 PM
With a merit source there are always going to be people that they merit more because they like their work.
The deleted/off topic posts were explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.0

Merit system implies promotion quality post. Most of messages of deleted/off topic are useless. Just these guys are using merit for promotion accounts in such way. That's fraud.

I disagree. Fraud is where there is "mens rea". (Definition: The intention or knowledge of wrongdoing, as opposed to the action or conduct).

They were using the merit system in a different way to it was intended but not without the same goals of reducing spam in mind.


Does it prove or disprove something?

I never concealed this secret of a political man. This is not prohibited by your own rules, which you try to ignore.


Rules also state that account sales are discouraged - which implies that there is a potential consequence.
1555  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:13:04 PM
LOL, this puppet show is almost as good as some of Quicksy's threads.

Even if we believe that there are multiple asshole account traders/spammers all acutely butthurt towards xandry - doesn't make any difference. All seem to deserve to be labeled as such.

Even if a person confirms their account?  Roll Eyes

With the same success and you can be attributed to the above. Just because I wanted so much.  Wink


It is interesting that a tagged account seller is defending the OP for a bought account accusation.

https://archive.fo/mLJv2

1556  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 09:01:21 PM
You write complete nonsense about connected xandry accounts. Trying to "put it all in one basket".

If you count the number of posts written by "connected accounts" then the day xandry should be at least 72 hours.

I also have a lot of merit from xandry, but this issue has already been discussed 100500 times in our forum section and Meta section!

Storyteller. xandry you and esmanthra already tons of Merit handed over:

You are even in this topic do not hesitate to transfer Merit.

Tell me how you are not related to each other.  Grin



My Russian is not good but I do read a lot in the Russian topic section. But I live in an English speaking country. I can assure you that there is a noticable difference in the English grammar used by esmanthra and by xandry. They are definitely not the same person.

Xandry is a merit source and will have given merit to mainly Russian speaking topics which would link him to almost every Russian account.
With a merit source there are always going to be people that they merit more because they like their work.
The deleted/off topic posts were explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.0




1557  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 07, 2018, 02:17:01 PM
Stalin, Hitler and Mao were some of the biggest supporters of gun control, and together they killed as many as 200 million. How did they do it? They used the guns they had control of. How did they get control of the guns? Through gun control.


LOL what a load of bullshit ! Back up that statement with historical facts. Here are some historical facts:

Hitler

Most of the gun control in Germany came from the Versailles Treaty around 1919. Germans were banned from possessing firearms.

Treaty of Versaille, imposed by the allied powers
Article 169 "Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless."

In 1928, the gun control laws were made less severe.
The Nazis actively campaigned against gun control legislation.
Hitler didn't come to power till 1933 ! Hitler didn't take guns, he made it easier for people to get guns !
Hitlers 1938 law actually weakened gun control and made it easier for everyone except Jews to own guns !
In 1938 the legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.
By 1938 Hitler had so much control that no matter how many guns the Jews had it wouldn't have saved them.
The Russian Army lost 8-10 million men fighting the Wehrmacht and another 14 million civilians - the Russians had machine guns, tanks, anti aircraft guns, aircraft, explosives etc.

https://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Mao

Mao didn't take away guns. Not only did people living in the country have rifles for hunting, some communities even had small artillery pieces and anti aircraft guns.    

Of course it was under the proper direction of the party. It wasn't hard to get or own a gun during Mao's time.

It is only after Deng Xiao Ping took over that the militias were gradually banned, and their weapons were confiscated.  

Stalin

Private citizens could own hunting weapons if they had police permission. Police and militia could confiscate guns of people that showed "irresponsible behaviour"

In 1929-30 there was a clampdown on guns. - so Stalin exercised gun control.

Of the 6 million people that perished under Stalin it is said that 3 million starved to death. Maybe they could have eaten their gun if they still had one.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/little-gun-history/
1558  Other / Meta / Re: Corruption and prejudgment of the moderator Xandry on: August 07, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
I thought it was explained once and for all that selling and buying accounts are not a crime here (unfortunately). Then why all these red trust issues connected to it? Looks like it only allowed to chosen ones and rest will get red trust because of it. I hate double standards even more than unfair rank up for ones who can afford to buy accounts or merits.

NOTE: This is meant to serve as a reference/educational/informational thread, NOT a rock solid list of rules.

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.


Discouraged with negative trust.
1559  Other / Meta / Re: how to delete my account here? on: August 07, 2018, 08:38:30 AM

I don't think there's any vaccinations against this Cheesy

There is the Kevorkian vaccination.
1560  Other / Meta / Re: How many mods-proxies are on the pay roll of the american pedo groups here? on: August 07, 2018, 03:59:25 AM
It's an interesting question... As they have unlimited fiat, have successfully executed decades of rapes with total impunity, I think it's highly probable. who are your best guests?



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