I bring you when I find something related to your accusations about me promoted ponzi on the forum (lie) or promoting my social media here to advertise ponzi (lie) etc etc.
Are you denying that you promoted a ponzi ?
You were posting my private information publicly on the forum then deleted everything without any trace, admitted.
I posted in accordance to the rules - it was information you had posted on the forum yourself. In order to be able to post more information and ensure that google cannot index it I moved it to the investigations forum in accordance to the rules.
You always create diversion when I try to defend my reputation on the forum.
You are not actively defending yourself - you are creating a diversion by trying to make me look bad. If you defend yourself then you explain your actions. You can't explain your involvement in the ponzi so you create a diversion instead. Effectively you are harassing and stalking me by doing that. You could just never mention my name again and then I never will reply to you again. |
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So you are still actually doing that bill suspected... I would encourage you not to play petty games with the person you are attempting to make a scam accusation against. If they challenge you to other nonsensical mundane tasks would you be interested in doing those as well? Obviously you didn't understand what he was saying. He was referring to you when he said: If they challenge you to other nonsensical mundane tasks would you be interested in doing those as well? He was referring to you when he was talking about the "games". Anyone doing any research will see that you are quoting most of the other stuff out of context. I'm not going to waste my time replying to most of the nonsense that you have posted. Obviously when anything goes wrong for you it is automatically my fault. Yes - you are doing a good job at stalking me. Check each topic and see who mentions xtraelv or mdayonliner first in that thread. |
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First my brother, now you have started stalking my wife too?
What next? My upcoming child?
All the media accounts are set to public and are asking for followers so you can advertise more. I am a stalker for looking at an advertised social media account ? Remember - it was you that told me:
Keep an archive of this post if you want. I strongly hope this will help to dig down more about me.
PS: I am a marketing guy and I would not mind to have an exposure my mate. Go ahead.
I was talking about uday when he was not proven guilty (completely), things were getting dark but nobody knew what was in his mind to be honest, was he actually trying to scam exit or a victim or whatever. The justification was from his past good acts.
The article was written when everything was confirmed.
There is a link right under it with the video and time that you say it. After you say Uday is a good guy you explain how much money people lost due to his actions. That is what I was talking about.
Can anyone see I am contently getting exposed. My personal privacy, family privacy everything are dragging into the forum from entire web just to make me look bad?
You are so concerned about your privacy that you post links to your social media on bitcointalk here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3759887.msg37072867#msg37072867There is nothing "personal" about advertising a SCAM on a publicly view-able social media page that is linked to a social media page that is actively advertised on here.. |
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xtraelv wanted to hurt me with his words, he wanted to humiliate me very badly to the community also with whatever possibly he can. I never wanted to bring anyone's reference without their permission but seems like I will need to do this shameful act just to prove that how desperate he was to make me guilty by any means... May be some of these evidence will speak for me or may be not but I feel I need to.
for[/b]. I'm not defending their actions, but based on the evidence you've presented I don't see much to suggest malice or intent.
You keep on persistently trying to malign my character. Just read some of the things you posted about me from the first day till now. I'm not going to waste my time posting it all on here. The facts are simple: You promoted ponzies and you got exposed. - nothing to do with me. Something YOU did. You make it sound like it was long time ago that you promoted ponzis. Not true. You entice bitcointalk users to follow your social media here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3759887.msg37072867#msg37072867You advertised revshare ponzis on your social media accounts - which are still visible today. This was on your wifes social media account December 2017:  Charles Scoville was a well know scammer before TrafficMonSoon. he owned another Revenue Sharing program some years before, and he fucked people who invested in. It's not the only one. He owned 4-5 websites with a similar scheme and suddenly closed without paying the users.
Just a quick search could show what he did it before, so since people do their due diligence it could not be ignored. What I want to say is you perfectly knew the system will collapse soon or later but still participated in the ponzi scheme. I hope you know you could get a meeting in a justice court as a promoter of such scam (just saying since it happened before...)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4221113.msg42063192#msg42063192This is what you say: https://youtu.be/EzO0Y6SoSt8?t=67Uday is a very honest, he has integrity . Uday is a very good guy. This is what others say: https://www.scamfinance.com/mypayingads-com-review-the-hyip-ponzi-that-just-wont-die/Uday Nara – apparently a very well-known scammer in online get-rich-quick circles The operation has “gone under” a few times already, yet its pushers simply refuse to let it all die. https://youtu.be/EzO0Y6SoSt8?t=785This is where you talk about all your downline people and friends lost thousands of dollars. Keep in mind that prior to that you stated: Uday is a very honest, he has integrity . Uday is a very good guy. |
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You named that one wrongly. Litecoin is a [SCAM] He created it with claims it was GPU resistant and you will also find me posting in there about it saying he used scrypt settings low enough to fit in a GPU. The truth was the coin creator was GPU mining for a VERY long time while everyone else was CPU mining, until he released the GPU code (if my memory serves me correctly - though it may not - it may have been as long as a year?) I haven't been around long enough to know all the scandals and accusations. I tried to look for the post but haven't found it yet. This is why threads like this are so cool. Some of the Legendaries like yourself share their knowledge. I suppose the same happened with ASIC mining. Some of the ASIC resistant coins like Monero experieced unusually high hashrates months before the ASICs were announced. Scrypt was also supposed to be ASIC resistant too but eventually they figured out how to build a chip for it. Some of the early ASICs were horrendously expensive but also were current for a long time (Unlike sha256 which seem to outdate quite quickly) Nearly all Algos now have ASICs with bitcoin leading the way for the fastest and most frequent improvements. All predicted by Satoshi. The next stage is embedded chips in devices like routers (already happening) Personally I think ASICs are a good thing for coin networks that can maintain a decent hashrate to secure it. |
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Posts in one of the mod's threads over the last 6 days in reverse time order (not deleted  ) It wasn't deleted by -ck. Nobody is out to get you. The posts looked in isolation like no-content "good project"-type garbage. Many moderators scan all posts as they come in, not looking closely at which threads they belong to. I agree that those posts were sufficiently on-topic when taken in context, especially when posted by non-newbies, and should not have been deleted. Their authors reposted them immediately, so get over it. Oh thanks  As long as it wasn't frodocooper who deleted the posts - since he is part of -ck's pool also and posts there also. That's 2 of the 3 people listed as moderators. Though no idea why gmaxwell would be bothering to delete posts in the pool thread Could be any of the Global moderators. |
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Yes I do ignore advise from sycophants
Then a self moderated thread suits you perfectly because you can delete any comments that you disagree with and surround yourself with fawning, flattery and adulation. Unfortunately for you it doesn't work like that in Meta. EDIT: ,,,and just broke another rule...  |
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What generally happens though when people draw unnecessary attention to themselves is that they get more scrutinized - not less.
Well considering I FIRST PM'd this issue directly to theymos ... and he replied that I should post here about it ... I think you should just stop posting here coz you clearly have no idea what's going on. Yeah as if Theymos would be personally interested in two deleted shitposts. It is correct - Meta is for posting these type of issues. From my experience you are wasting your time and drawing attention to your thread. As I pointed out - may not be the wisest thing to do. I can give advise but whether you follow that advise is up to you. It reminds me of a client that was convinced his neighbors were dancing on his roof at night. They would scurry up the downpipe and make a hell of a racket. I told him that if there were noises it would be vermin or animals. That "people" were not dancing on his roof. He went to the pub and told his friends - they said that his neighbors must really have it in for him to be dancing on his roof. This convinced him that his neighbors were dancing on his roof even more and that I was part of that conspiracy. Theymos didn't want to deal with it so send you here. I gave you valid advice. The only thing I can offer after that is an eye-roll.  |
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So for the sycophants of the mod who did this, here's some data that anyone can easily see in the pools thread, by clicking on my link and looking at other threads in the same place:
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as I said (and anyone can see by clicking there) someone needs to be given the kick from moderating.
If I were you I wouldn't be to keen to draw attention to yourself or the thread. I didn't realize that mining pools were so competitive that it is a hatfield mccoy style rivalry. Get the gunz out - it is another mining pool ! There are plenty of posts in your thread that breach the "low quality" rule and the "no consecutive posts rule". I wouldn't be so petty to report them because generally I leave threads where there is genuine discussion alone and just report the bots and obvious shills. But I can see why someone may have reported them. It is likely to be unconnected to your perceived rivalries. Shazam. Much better answer then I got.
BTCamm!!! Let 'em roll in!!!
"Alright, alright, alright!"
Mo' green blocks, mo' greenbacks--er, BTC!
Money money mooooney, MONEY!  All could be considered "low quality posts". The reason I wouldn't report them is because it appears to be expressions of sincere delight. But they could still be considered as breaking the rules. What generally happens though when people draw unnecessary attention to themselves is that they get more scrutinized - not less. |
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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed. Are probably the main two reasons why it got deleted. It is likely that someone reported it and that the moderator saw a short uninteresting post that looked like spam and may not have investigated the context. Considering that moderators deal with thousands of spam posts hourly - deleting one that may not have been spam is a minor error. Yay, a block! does not look much different to Good project when it is a hazy blur of reported spam. As they say: "toughen up princess !". Thank you for a meaningful reply. Is there a rule that will get me banned if I go report every post on a pool I may or may not be biased against? Banning is at the moderators discretion. Untrustworthy behavior is also likely to attract some pretty red tags.23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules. It is more likely that they just start ignoring your reports if they are inaccurate. You could however be useful and report some real spam and breaking of the rules. That would be constructive. I realise that communities can be quite protective of their product. But as an outsider that has never heard of your pool - the attitude towards the moderator is quite a put off. Not particularly good advertising for your pool. For what appears to me a likely situation of a moderator not seeing the complete context of the post. You can avoid such misunderstandings by making posts that are easier to identify as "not spam". |
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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.  It is not as if that ever happens in that thread. Are probably the main two reasons why it got deleted. It is likely that someone reported it and that the moderator saw a short uninteresting post that looked like spam and may not have investigated the context. Considering that moderators deal with thousands of spam posts hourly - deleting one that may not have been spam is a minor error. Yay, a block! does not look much different to Good project when it is a hazy blur of reported spam. As they say: "toughen up princess !". |
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Why bitcointalk? Why not blockchaintalk? Bitcoin might not be around for much longer, just like the Ford Model T was replaced by newer, better cars.
Why change a fantastic brand ? Ford didn't change their name. Just the model. (No - I'm not a Bcash, Bgold or Bshit advocate) The T production ran from 1908 - 1928. Ford knew how to fork: Just a few of the models: Ford Model B (1904–1906) Ford Model T (1908–1927) Ford Model C (1935–1937) Going back to the topic of China - Pointless Bitcointalk doing anything about it. TOR connections are able to be used - provided that IP has not been used for spamming. (Then a fee to use that IP applies) It is much better for Chinese users to have a good VPN themselves - it allows them to trade on foreign crypto exchanges and view without the "great firewall of China" censorship. I don't think the OP saw that there was a Chinese local board already. EDIT: The OP did know it was there. They posted their first post there. |
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Please do something about this merit system.. It's unfair  I don't think they will change the merit system knowing that this is working FOR SOME users here. Those people who are complaining about the merit system are probably: 1. Newbies who can't get merit from their post probably because they only posting bounty reports. (I have done this before but I stopped it. Saying this thinking that somebody will see my post history  ) 2. Users who can't get merit from their post because their posts are not merit worthy and now they are just complaining about the system. In short, users who are not contributing to the forum. Yes - but also another point. Looking at the stats of the two profiles below Date joined, quality of posts, level of knowledge, contribution to the forum. (There are many others I hold in the same regard) Now show me one member that has been deprived due to the merit system that deserves to wear the same forum rank as those two profiles.   |
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Those are all good points but I would like to rebut: The censorship " can of worms" has already been opened by allowing locked/self-moderated sales threads to proliferate. If mods cannot remove scammers' threads because it would appear as censorship, why is it that scammers can create locked/self-moderated threads to sell their scams? That is censorship since in this case, the most direct feedback mechanism has been disabled for all other users. Using this tactic, the OP is now able to utilize sock puppets which can post direct feedback in this otherwise locked thread in order to make himself appear legitimate. Other members are left with secondary avenues to sound an alarm such as the trust system (which is also unmoderated and rather unreliable) or perhaps the scam accusations thread. These methods are not nearly as effective as the direct method of posting within the alleged scammer's thread. You've in effect allowed the OP to create a barrier around the offending activity while having free speech zones miles away metaphorically speaking from the potential scam activity. Case in point - Skeptical One has this locked thread in which they sell gift cards which may or may not be legitimate. Within this locked thread, a couple of newbie members, using names to make them appear as forum moderators even, have somehow posted direct feedback vouching for Skeptical One's wares. I use the secondary methods available to me to alert potential victims by tagging the OP and their sock puppets but it's clearly not effective as evidenced by the positive feedback I am given by Skeptical One who is obviously emboldened by the lack of moderation as well as his ability to easily censor naysayers as witnessed in the PM he also sent to me:  I'm not asking to ban anyone, I'm simply saying that the playing field needs to be leveled to allow for direct and open discussion. Censorship is a reality on this forum but it is skewed in favour of the scammers.edit: BBcode repair Just open a scam accusation if there isn't one yet. Then post the link of the scam accusation as negative feedback on their profile and that of any of their sockpuppets. A DT or several DTs will see it and tag them. That is how the system works with scammers. You can either use the system how it currently works to your best ability or try to change it in a way that many others before you have suggested but is unlikely to get changed due to the reasons I outlined in the post above. While it may be annoying when a scammer locks a thread on you - especially when they bait you like here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432189.msg39850569#msg39850569Then locked the thread and then got perma banned for other reasons. Al Capone got jailed for tax evasion. If you see a scammer. Study the forum rules. If they break them - BAM! Get your fly swatter out.  Crypto is largely unregulated and web scam activity hard to enforce by law enforcement. (Who has jurisdiction over a scammer running a scam in a country where the law is not enforced on what happens on the internet, on a website of a service supplier that is decentralized - scamming a user that lives in a country where crypto may be illega ?l) In the crypto world there is an endless supply of scammers. The state of anarchy appears to bring out the best and the worst in people. |
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I will request to moderator for lock their bounty thread to avoid spam and loss of time forum members.
So if it's not able to be locked or go to trash then let those participants waste their time until they came to the point to check what the heck is going on. No worries about extended advertisement because I believed investors will always check any projects before throwing money at it.
I think "Coolcryptovator" has a point. He is highlighting the fact that this project has been already known as scam(thanks to "Coolcryptovator") and their bounty thread is still feeding the spammers. I think we aren't talking about the time wasted by underworld bounty freaks, but the valuble time of Mods where they can spend for hunting down tricky spam word spin bots and other shitposters. Who cares about those participants(spammers) still posting even after marlboroza's warning? Investors will always check before they invest those scam ICO's, but we should be worried about the time of mods/other members who reports by wasting their time. I think mods should not followed rules ( "scams are not moderated" ) blindly. Because as far my knowledge this is clear cut case. There are several threads always being created in Meta that how we reduses spam in the bitcointalk forum. But when someone pointing out clear cut case with proofs, why Mods can't locked or trash that thread without allowing to clog the forum by participants of that scam project spammers. Scams aren't moderated so they are unlikely to get involved even if proven. You can let others know via another thread like you have done or by contacting those that are "wasting their time", but the moderators will not lock or do anything due to scams not being moderated.
You're right, they can use alternative way to announce the scam project. Maybe it's the right time to set a moderator for a scam project and give a best shot warning to the bounty manager who is incompetent in reviewing the project before promoting it. Therefore i suggest that scam project should be reported, moderated and close. Answered in detail here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4818411.msg43580748#msg43580748 |
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