Flat Earth

[MisO69]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

[MiSKLaCH]

Rants!

All conspiracy and no reality makes notbatman a dull boy. 

[notbatman]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

Dude, what a load of bullshit it starts off by claiming and I quote directly from the very first thing it says:

1. Introduction

The health of the eye seems to demand a horizon. We are never tired, so long as we can see far enough. — Ralph Waldo Emerson [1]
   The first direct visual detection of the curvature of the horizon has been widely attributed to Auguste Piccard and Paul Kipfer on 27 May 1931 [2]. They reported seeing it from a hydrogen-filled balloon at an elevation of 15,787 m (51,783 ft) over Germany and Austria. ...

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References and Notes

1. R. W. Emerson, Nature: Addresses, and Lectures, new and re-vised ed. (Houghton, Mifflin, 1884), p. 22..

2. Piccard is widely believed to be the first. There are many references to his achievement on the Internet, most of them certainly derivative. I contacted the Piccard family and they were aware of the claim but had no hard evidence or literature citation backing it up.

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Boom! Here's an article from Popular Science before the existence of NASA that directly quotes Piccard:

Ten Miles High in an AIR-TIGHT BALL

"it seemed a flat disk with upturned edge"
-- Prof. Auguste Piccard

Source: POPULAR SCIENCE, August 1931

You've been served.




EDIT

Bonus X-Post:

Auguste PICCARD was a professor and scientist at ULB in Brussels:

Flat Earth...The Dome and Liquid Space in the new Hennessy Commercial !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ_PHiuMhpQ

[nomad13666]

Don't suck off dogs.

RESEARCH FLAT EARTH
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22

[MisO69]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

You are a festering fucking idiot.

You argue like a 4 year old laying on your back stomping your feet and screaming mommy I don't want to.

Anyhow, all this FE nonsense is debunked by the simple fact that there is a horizon. Every time I bring it up you just make penis memes. cock lover.

[serbad]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nowt new.! just another Dog Sucker.!!

[BADecker]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

You are a festering fucking idiot.

You argue like a 4 year old laying on your back stomping your feet and screaming mommy I don't want to.

Anyhow, all this FE nonsense is debunked by the simple fact that there is a horizon. Every time I bring it up you just make penis memes. cock lover.

Right! nomad13666, itself, shows us that the earth is a globe here:

BAY BRIDGE CURVATURE TEST (distance = 17 miles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BypOCtQBk9g

A tangent from a start point will show a drop in altitude of about 192 feet at 17 miles away on the curvature of the earth.

In addition, if you want to logically understand FE perspective, you have to come to believe it first. Then it all falls into place for you. FE people don't even understand it by logic.

[exemplaar]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

You are a festering fucking idiot.

You argue like a 4 year old laying on your back stomping your feet and screaming mommy I don't want to.

Anyhow, all this FE nonsense is debunked by the simple fact that there is a horizon. Every time I bring it up you just make penis memes. cock lover.

What a joke you are. I already debunked your simple fact way back and you are back again with the same nonsense.

It seems like you did not learn a lesson...yet:
Ball earth debunked hard:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_Tw27wWv0
The final nail in the ball earth coffin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zy_qg5EbJk

[rdnkjdi]

Lol, Flat Earth at the top of off topic on bitcointalk.  Why am I not surprised?

[MisO69]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

You are a festering fucking idiot.

You argue like a 4 year old laying on your back stomping your feet and screaming mommy I don't want to.

Anyhow, all this FE nonsense is debunked by the simple fact that there is a horizon. Every time I bring it up you just make penis memes. cock lover.

What a joke you are. I already debunked your simple fact way back and you are back again with the same nonsense.

It seems like you did not learn a lesson...yet:
Ball earth debunked hard:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_Tw27wWv0

Some math at the beginning then he goes on to make all kinds of assumptions. Junk Science... Still I see a horizon which is an impossibility on a flat earth. He even shows you why there is a horizon on a "ball earth" yet doesn't explain this phenomenon on a flat earth. Why is he ignoring this fact that everyone can observe with their own eyes?

The final nail in the ball earth coffin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zy_qg5EbJk

This guy has some nice sunsets in his video. He is trying to convince us that be zooming into a sunset the sun is actually higher than the horizion. What he doesn't do is leave his camera on to record the entire sunset to the point where it gets dark. If the sun isn't setting below the horizon then where is it going? Does God slowly dim the lights every day?

So when I'm flying why can't I see the entire flat earth? At 33,000 feet the only obstruction that I would have would be mountains. Why don't I see the mountains in the western US and why don't I see the arctic above Canada? Why don't I see Cuba off the coast of Florida?

Here is your answer.

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=2800&h0=33000&unit=imperial

Eye Height is 33,000 and target distance doesn't matter but lets use 2800 (the width of the USA east coast to west coast) Horizon distance calculates to 222.54 miles. So at 33,000 feet we can only see 222 miles around us, Fact. When flying we cannot see the entire continental USA, Fact. This proves the horizon and curvature of the earth.

On a flat earth there would be no curvature, no horizon and we would see the entire fucking planet from a plane. Explain to me why this isn't so.

[BADecker]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

You are a festering fucking idiot.

You argue like a 4 year old laying on your back stomping your feet and screaming mommy I don't want to.

Anyhow, all this FE nonsense is debunked by the simple fact that there is a horizon. Every time I bring it up you just make penis memes. cock lover.

What a joke you are. I already debunked your simple fact way back and you are back again with the same nonsense.

It seems like you did not learn a lesson...yet:
Ball earth debunked hard:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_Tw27wWv0
The final nail in the ball earth coffin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zy_qg5EbJk

Those Youtube videos won't debunk anything. Why not? Because nobody will watch them.

Stick to expressible science that anyone can understand.

[BADecker]

Here is a nice paper on visually discerning the curvature of the earth. Written in 2008, back when everyone knew, even you, that the earth is a spheroid.

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf

You are a festering fucking idiot.

You argue like a 4 year old laying on your back stomping your feet and screaming mommy I don't want to.

Anyhow, all this FE nonsense is debunked by the simple fact that there is a horizon. Every time I bring it up you just make penis memes. cock lover.

What a joke you are. I already debunked your simple fact way back and you are back again with the same nonsense.

It seems like you did not learn a lesson...yet:
Ball earth debunked hard:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_Tw27wWv0

Some math at the beginning then he goes on to make all kinds of assumptions. Junk Science... Still I see a horizon which is an impossibility on a flat earth. He even shows you why there is a horizon on a "ball earth" yet doesn't explain this phenomenon on a flat earth. Why is he ignoring this fact that everyone can observe with their own eyes?

The final nail in the ball earth coffin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zy_qg5EbJk

This guy has some nice sunsets in his video. He is trying to convince us that be zooming into a sunset the sun is actually higher than the horizion. What he doesn't do is leave his camera on to record the entire sunset to the point where it gets dark. If the sun isn't setting below the horizon then where is it going? Does God slowly dim the lights every day?

So when I'm flying why can't I see the entire flat earth? At 33,000 feet the only obstruction that I would have would be mountains. Why don't I see the mountains in the western US and why don't I see the arctic above Canada? Why don't I see Cuba off the coast of Florida?

Here is your answer.

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=2800&h0=33000&unit=imperial

Eye Height is 33,000 and target distance doesn't matter but lets use 2800 (the width of the USA east coast to west coast) Horizon distance calculates to 222.54 miles. So at 33,000 feet we can only see 222 miles around us, Fact. When flying we cannot see the entire continental USA, Fact. This proves the horizon and curvature of the earth.

On a flat earth there would be no curvature, no horizon and we would see the entire fucking planet from a plane. Explain to me why this isn't so.

Makes absolute sense. You might need a telescope to see it all, but on a clear day you could see it all if it were flat. You could even see the dome that notbatman has said touches down about 6,000 miles out onto the ice rim enclosure wall.

The only thing that contradicts this is FE perspective, which essentially suggests that at distances of a few miles, light doesn't go in a straight line anymore, or that there is some other twisting of the medium through which light travels. If this were the truth, then the FE people better have a whole lot more science to prove it than the half-baked science in those stupid, sensationalized Youtube videos they keep evidencing. As it is, they don't even have the theory for this stuff.

[notbatman]

... FE perspective, which essentially suggests that at distances of a few miles, light doesn't go in a straight line anymore, or that there is some other twisting of the medium through which light travels. ...

Thank you for making my Flat Earth arguments for me douchebag, of course atmospheric refraction is what you're trying to twist into looking like nonsense here. Scattering from things like dust & fog, refraction and perspective explain perfectly everything you see from ships over the horizon to the Moon and Sun.

[BADecker]

... FE perspective, which essentially suggests that at distances of a few miles, light doesn't go in a straight line anymore, or that there is some other twisting of the medium through which light travels. ...

Thank you for making my Flat Earth arguments for me douchebag, of course atmospheric refraction is what you're trying to twist into looking like nonsense here. Scattering from things like dust & fog, refraction and perspective explain perfectly everything you see from ships over the horizon to the Moon and Sun.

Gotcha. I thought you might do something like this.

Sure, there are scatterings in the atmosphere. But they are all relative, and slow to appear... unlike the glass of water (or whatever it is) in your picture. In other words, whatever works to form a different perspective than is generally understood, also works to correct that perspective.

The point still is, that even if there are distortions, the ends of the earth would still be able to be seen at times. After all, we see the stars (whatever they are) thousands of miles away (miles rather than light years, if you want to believe FE). Even so, from the nearest points that we travel towards any FE distant ice ring, we would be able to observe the dome at the places it touches down, at least at some times. This info could not be hidden by any conspiracy... just as the scientific proof for the existence of God has always been with us, and millions of people understand it.

[notbatman]

... FE perspective, which essentially suggests that at distances of a few miles, light doesn't go in a straight line anymore, or that there is some other twisting of the medium through which light travels. ...

Thank you for making my Flat Earth arguments for me douchebag, of course atmospheric refraction is what you're trying to twist into looking like nonsense here. Scattering from things like dust & fog, refraction and perspective explain perfectly everything you see from ships over the horizon to the Moon and Sun.

Gotcha. I thought you might do something like this.

Sure, there are scatterings in the atmosphere. But they are all relative, and slow to appear... unlike the glass of water (or whatever it is) in your picture. In other words, whatever works to form a different perspective than is generally understood, also works to correct that perspective.

The point still is, that even if there are distortions, the ends of the earth would still be able to be seen at times. After all, we see the stars (whatever they are) thousands of miles away (miles rather than light years, if you want to believe FE). Even so, from the nearest points that we travel towards any FE distant ice ring, we would be able to observe the dome at the places it touches down, at least at some times. This info could not be hidden by any conspiracy... just as the scientific proof for the existence of God has always been with us, and millions of people understand it.

No you can't see to the ends of the Earth because there's crap in the air that blocks light and enough distance and the air itself becomes opaque, first creating a red filter then darker and darker. Combine that with perspective shrinking things down to nothing and you can't see shit.

The globalists have been busy promoting a very dark Satanic conspiracy to make everybody believe total bullshit about everything.

[Przemax]

... FE perspective, which essentially suggests that at distances of a few miles, light doesn't go in a straight line anymore, or that there is some other twisting of the medium through which light travels. ...

Thank you for making my Flat Earth arguments for me douchebag, of course atmospheric refraction is what you're trying to twist into looking like nonsense here. Scattering from things like dust & fog, refraction and perspective explain perfectly everything you see from ships over the horizon to the Moon and Sun.

Gotcha. I thought you might do something like this.

Sure, there are scatterings in the atmosphere. But they are all relative, and slow to appear... unlike the glass of water (or whatever it is) in your picture. In other words, whatever works to form a different perspective than is generally understood, also works to correct that perspective.

The point still is, that even if there are distortions, the ends of the earth would still be able to be seen at times. After all, we see the stars (whatever they are) thousands of miles away (miles rather than light years, if you want to believe FE). Even so, from the nearest points that we travel towards any FE distant ice ring, we would be able to observe the dome at the places it touches down, at least at some times. This info could not be hidden by any conspiracy... just as the scientific proof for the existence of God has always been with us, and millions of people understand it.

You have nailed it brother. And you dont have to believe flat earth to believe or know the God exist. Actualy its an offense to God that its a requirement to believe how they call it "a true shape of the earth". Flat earth is illogical and saying that you have to be illogical in your thought process to believe in God is at best a folly and in my opinion a psyop to ridicule a Jesus Christ.

Its abuse to call people satanists if they are believing the earth is globe. Jesus have said to not call anyone Godless. God loves everyone even the sinners and wait for them to repent. Actually I would guess that its harder to believe in God when he is somewhere in nowhere in the globe earth model so its a great achievement if someone still believes that Jesus Christ is their saviour. Not automaticly but if you follow him and his teachings how to make heavenly kingdom down here on this earth.

Yes I started to believe in God when I knew he should exist once I had dug deeper into physics (just a simple physics of puritans and the electric universe of Tesla and others) and skycentrism (mostly by a great man Mariusz Szczytyński). But ofcourse its not a requirement how you will find him.

Ten Miles High in an AIR-TIGHT BALL

"it seemed a flat disk with upturned edge"
-- Prof. Auguste Piccard

Yes. You are right here. The curvature is observable at higher altitudes. But its all illusion - you are bad "scientists" if all you want to do is prove what you believe. Ive told how to be a good scientists and try to disprove what you believe. If you cant disprove something its most likely true, ofcourse if someone else wont disprove it as well.

Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the Bedford Level Experiment. In short, this was an experiment preformed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat. It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.

Yes earth appears flat. True to that. Thats a fact. But an appearance is not a proof. Actualy there is no such a thing as proof. There are evidences and undisproven facts. Facts are so that at higher alititudes the earth appears to be a ball. Its still not a proof that earth is either a ball or flat because you can disprove it by proving that you can bend light - and you clearly can. So here you go Ive proven your proof is not a proof.

No you can't see to the ends of the Earth because there's crap in the air that blocks light and enough distance and the air itself becomes opaque, first creating a red filter then darker and darker. Combine that with perspective shrinking things down to nothing and you can't see shit.

Light scatter in the atmosphere and is not blocked. So you should still be able to see things "blocked by crap" as you have said it in different harder to being "blocked by a crap" spectrums of light or other waves like radiowaves or gamma rays.

You are a bad "scientist". You want to defend something undefendable as all light being "blocked" by atmosphere. Ofcourse not all light is blocked by atmosphere even if all visible light is blocked by atmoshpere. Mostly the blue and violet light spectrum are "partialy blocked" (infact being bend) but for example something like radiowaves are just partially blocked (or more accuratly being bend) and they are so called "electromagnetic wave"(its not a wave but a rate of induction that has diaelectric, electric and magnetic properties) as well.

You like simple explanations - You say fog "block light". I say fog scatter most of the visible light thats why using nightgoogles you still see thru the fog as its harder to scatter some spectrum of light.

Btw if light is being scattered (bend) why does this process is not gradual as it should? Thats my position that light bending is gradual - makes a lot more sense. Your position is incoherent - you say that light bends only at the end of it. Thats just illogical as hell. Its like searching the end of the rainbow.

Searching for the end of the rainbow makes sense to a child..... or a retard. And thats how people view flat earthers. Not that they dont have merits to do so...

[adidas]

I think the earth is Flat and it does not circle around itself like many explains. For this I have seen a lot of conspiracy videos and maybe I am suggested from them because they were giving very good arguments.

[Przemax]

I think the earth is Flat and it does not circle around itself like many explains. For this I have seen a lot of conspiracy videos and maybe I am suggested from them because they were giving very good arguments.

That earth does not circle around itself does not mean that earth is flat for fuck sake. Flat earth CAN NOT exist in a world where LOGIC rules. Period. Its just can not. Im sorry. There are too many illogicalities that disproves it. And science only work by disproving not proving anything as you cant prove anything per se. Ever. You can make something believable. And if someone realy wants to believe in something he will even if he will hear things that makes his believe system less believable. Thats why we see so much aggresion and vulgarity from flat earthers and globe earthers. They just believe their shit.

Some people are like - its not truth if its not my truth, and even it is truth, than thats just a matter of opinion. I say no - truth is not a matter of opinion but facts. And facts might be misleading depending on the enviroment and repeatability of scientific experiments. Truth is not a matter of explanations, stories and such, but a matter of being still alive in the fires of critique. The old trial by fire and time. Heliocentrism is still young. I give it at best 100 years before it turns into dust.

[Longsnowsm]

Interesting questions about moon craters and impacts.  How is it that every crater on the moon have impacted the surface at 90 degrees?  Nothing appears to have hit a glancing blow or have hit at wider angles to create a variety craters, dig marks, trenches, and other shapes than a circular impact.  Clearly there should be other types of impact evidence on the moon if it really is the result of impacts.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmDaMbQn7bQ

[Longsnowsm]

Very interesting observations showing offshore rigs out over 9 miles off the coast of CA.  This is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP7lyAKNpj4