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June 23, 2016, 06:02:24 AM |
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It is because religions were born by slavery cultures. Most of religions were designed and followed by slaves and it has same patterns with slavery.
Slavemaster has unhappy slaves -> Unhappy slaves creates better and bigger slavemaster for all slavemasters and slaves to avoid psychological problems being a slave.
That's it.
In ancient times slavemaster did not have any belief outside our world. They generally lived in hedonism like world is a heaven. And it was real truth. But there were more slaves than slavemasters, they could never reach that pleasure seeking life so they completely rejected pleasures out of jealousy and ban them as sin for "big slavemaster called god".
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June 23, 2016, 02:22:41 PM |
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Well if you think about it. The word hate is not at all to be used in context. Atheists do not hate religion. They just dont believe in any. And religions dont hate atheist. They just dont agree with their opinions.
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June 23, 2016, 02:47:44 PM |
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Well if you think about it. The word hate is not at all to be used in context. Atheists do not hate religion. They just dont believe in any. And religions dont hate atheist. They just dont agree with their opinions. When an atheist believes in atheism strongly enough that he can speak and write about his atheism, he proves that he has an atheism religion, according to the dictionary definition of what religion is - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t.
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Moloch
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June 23, 2016, 03:53:31 PM |
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religions dont hate atheist. They just dont agree with their opinions.
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June 23, 2016, 04:06:27 PM |
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All problems are human problems, even the religion ones.
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June 23, 2016, 11:03:11 PM |
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Well if you think about it. The word hate is not at all to be used in context. Atheists do not hate religion. They just dont believe in any. And religions dont hate atheist. They just dont agree with their opinions. Right on! OP is trying to provoke Atheists. Such a faulty premise.
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June 24, 2016, 12:04:55 AM |
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All problems are human problems, even the religion ones. This is exactly why God came as man, in the form of Jesus, His Son. He was the only man strong enough to take care of the problems that mankind made for themselves. Join Him as your king and ruler along with us, so that you can receive of His great ability to correct your problems. Why be against Him so that you lose everything, even your own self?
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June 24, 2016, 07:48:01 AM |
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I use a quote from Biomech to shed some light on the subject. I thought it helpful for clarification. (I used some of my own highlights in his text though, so to see the original go to his post please.) ...your conception of atheism is basically what theists say about us [atheists], not the actuality in most cases. But I need to clarify that a bit, because there is a subset of atheists who state it as a positive belief. Religious types have dubbed this "strong" atheism, vs what it seems most of us hold to, which they dub "weak" atheism.
In my arrogant opinion, "weak" atheism is by far the stronger position. Not because it's a positive belief, but because it is not. Our stance is not that we believe there is no god(s), but that we do not believe that there is based on the available evidence. "strong" atheism, to me, is just as much a religious stance as Christianity or Islam would be.
Weak atheism does not deny the possibility of deities, it just doesn't accept ordinary proofs for extraordinary claims.
That's all pretty general. Personally, I've no problem with the idea of a god or gods, but I see no convincing evidence. Religion, on the other hand, I take a strong and oppositional stand to. It makes broad, unprovable claims, and demands that those who adhere to it AND THOSE WHO DON'T accept it. Even, often especially, when those claims are contradicted by fact. And they're willing to kill over it.
I'll kill in defense of my person, my family, possibly even my nation were it actually invaded. I'll never even consider killing because a man believes something differently than I would. Depending on what that belief is, I might think him a fool. I might even say it, especially if he's not a fool generally. I'll talk about it, but I won't kill for it.
I can also state as fact that ALL current theistic religions are false. I base this on their own claims. Not all of them, some of their claims are either good morals or at least a bit of wisdom that is applicable regardless of derivation. But particularly, these two. That there is a god who wishes to be worshipped, and that he/she/it is the god of their religion.
Were these two things true, and based on their further claim that their sky daddy is all powerful, then there would be NO POSSIBILITY of plural, contradicting religions.
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June 24, 2016, 11:11:20 AM |
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I use a quote from Biomech to shed some light on the subject. I thought it helpful for clarification. (I used some of my own highlights in his text though, so to see the original go to his post please.) ...your conception of atheism is basically what theists say about us [atheists], not the actuality in most cases. But I need to clarify that a bit, because there is a subset of atheists who state it as a positive belief. Religious types have dubbed this "strong" atheism, vs what it seems most of us hold to, which they dub "weak" atheism.
In my arrogant opinion, "weak" atheism is by far the stronger position. Not because it's a positive belief, but because it is not. Our stance is not that we believe there is no god(s), but that we do not believe that there is based on the available evidence. "strong" atheism, to me, is just as much a religious stance as Christianity or Islam would be.
Weak atheism does not deny the possibility of deities, it just doesn't accept ordinary proofs for extraordinary claims.
That's all pretty general. Personally, I've no problem with the idea of a god or gods, but I see no convincing evidence. Religion, on the other hand, I take a strong and oppositional stand to. It makes broad, unprovable claims, and demands that those who adhere to it AND THOSE WHO DON'T accept it. Even, often especially, when those claims are contradicted by fact. And they're willing to kill over it.
I'll kill in defense of my person, my family, possibly even my nation were it actually invaded. I'll never even consider killing because a man believes something differently than I would. Depending on what that belief is, I might think him a fool. I might even say it, especially if he's not a fool generally. I'll talk about it, but I won't kill for it.
I can also state as fact that ALL current theistic religions are false. I base this on their own claims. Not all of them, some of their claims are either good morals or at least a bit of wisdom that is applicable regardless of derivation. But particularly, these two. That there is a god who wishes to be worshipped, and that he/she/it is the god of their religion.
Were these two things true, and based on their further claim that their sky daddy is all powerful, then there would be NO POSSIBILITY of plural, contradicting religions.
This is silly. You can't breathe in a vacuum. When you say that you simply lack having belief at all, you are saying that you live in a vacuum. If you lived out in the mountain woods, completely away from other people so that you never heard of God, you would still get the feeling of God from the things you saw in nature. But you don't live this way. You live among other people, the majority of whom are theists to some extent at least. And the idea of God has been pushed into your head at least a little. You are forced to make a choice in faith by this. Either you believe God exists, or you believe He doesn't. You might like the idea of living in a vacuum. You might wish that you could have lived your life in a vacuum. You might like the vacuum idea so much that you are trying with all your might to break free from the knowledge that you have so that you can live in the vacuum you wish for yourself. But you can't. It's too late. The knowledge of the idea of God is already in you, and outside of a complete lobotomy, you can't remove it. You have only one of 2 choices in this area. Either you believe that God exists, or you believe that God doesn't exist. The idea of a third choice, to not even have enough knowledge so that you don't believe one way or the other, is not available to you. And the more you talk about it, the less you lose any vacuum that might be left, and the more you are set in your belief one way or the other.
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June 24, 2016, 05:20:44 PM |
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^ If God(s) (please notice this one with a capital), the Ground of existence [by definition] (not a being existing like the rest of all-that-is, is illogical, even to the point of killing (either physically or mentally/spiritually) other so called 'heathen' people, I will gladly and willingly right away opt for the lobotomy.
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June 24, 2016, 08:41:47 PM |
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June 24, 2016, 09:08:49 PM |
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^ If God(s) (please notice this one with a capital), the Ground of existence [by definition] (not a being existing like the rest of all-that-is, is illogical, even to the point of killing (either physically or mentally/spiritually) other so called 'heathen' people, I will gladly and willingly right away opt for the lobotomy.
Do you own anything at all? If you own enough stuff, and have enough money, you can set an appointment with the lobotomist of your choice, and get the job done. Why can you do this? Because you own it, and it is logical that you can do what you want with the things that you own... trade it off to a lobotomist for a lobotomy. God, having created everything, owns it all. Nothing He does with any of His stuff is illogical. Just be glad that He offers freedom... in your case, enough to get your lobotomy. Or does He offer you that freedom? Perhaps He won't let you get your lobotomy no matter how hard you try. Try it and see.
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June 24, 2016, 09:14:12 PM |
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Oh, that's right. I saved Noah and his family, because they were the only good people left. Besides, if I had let those wicked, evil people go on living a while longer, they would have sinned a lot more, and then died because of the death they brought on themselves anyway. Then, with all those extra sins "under their belt," they would have had more to be punished for in Hell. Makes me feel good that I saved them from all that extra eternal Hell punishment. Too bad they didn't believe the promise of salvation to eternal life that I held out to them. If they had, they would have missed Hell and gained Heaven... joy and glory and life forevermore.
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June 24, 2016, 09:31:37 PM |
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If you lived out in the mountain woods, completely away from other people so that you never heard of God, you would still get the feeling of God from the things you saw in nature I lived like this for three years, I got a complete picture of how it all related to me, and it was nothing to do with religion. I was ten years of age. That is all, no elaboration on this, except I am, who I am because. Different strokes for different folks, isn't that the truth.
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June 25, 2016, 01:17:20 AM |
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If you lived out in the mountain woods, completely away from other people so that you never heard of God, you would still get the feeling of God from the things you saw in nature I lived like this for three years, I got a complete picture of how it all related to me, and it was nothing to do with religion. I was ten years of age. That is all, no elaboration on this, except I am, who I am because. Different strokes for different folks, isn't that the truth. Still 10, right?
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June 25, 2016, 01:57:50 AM |
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June 25, 2016, 02:00:19 AM |
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Thanks for all the pics, atheism religion.
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June 25, 2016, 02:25:15 AM |
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So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.
But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.
WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?
Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.
Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.
Atheists do not hate religion instead they do not see religion as necessary to their beliefs and life. I have friends who are atheists but do not hate religion, they do respect it since it is the belief of other people. They just dont join because they dot believe in God. But they value moral teaching which is important in daily living and maintaining moral aspects of society.
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