Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BitNow]

Dude, you're not only a bigot but also a grammar nazi? It's perfectly clear that it's you. It's also perfectly correct: "god kills you himself"

It is not perfectly clear: "God kills you himself".

It is not clear if the object is you or himself.


Best regards.

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[valta4065]

Dude, you're not only a bigot but also a grammar nazi? It's perfectly clear that it's you. It's also perfectly correct: "god kills you himself"

It is not perfectly clear: "God kills you himself".

It is not clear if the object is you or himself.


Best regards.

It is.

-Imagine the object is "you" then himself refers to god so perfectly correct and full of sense.
-Imagine the object is "himself" then wtf does "you" refers to? If himself was the object you wouldn't have any sense.

Conclusion: "you" is the object and you're not good in English. Which is not important unless you try to tell people how to write.

[BitNow]

Dude, you're not only a bigot but also a grammar nazi? It's perfectly clear that it's you. It's also perfectly correct: "god kills you himself"

It is not perfectly clear: "God kills you himself".

It is not clear if the object is you or himself.


Best regards.

It is.

-Imagine the object is "you" then himself refers to god so perfectly correct and full of sense.
-Imagine the object is "himself" then wtf does "you" refers to? If himself was the object you wouldn't have any sense.

Conclusion: "you" is the object and you're not good in English. Which is not important unless you try to tell people how to write.

Then what "himself" refers to?

That shouldn't be there.


Best regards.

[valta4065]

Dude, you're not only a bigot but also a grammar nazi? It's perfectly clear that it's you. It's also perfectly correct: "god kills you himself"

It is not perfectly clear: "God kills you himself".

It is not clear if the object is you or himself.


Best regards.

It is.

-Imagine the object is "you" then himself refers to god so perfectly correct and full of sense.
-Imagine the object is "himself" then wtf does "you" refers to? If himself was the object you wouldn't have any sense.

Conclusion: "you" is the object and you're not good in English. Which is not important unless you try to tell people how to write.

Then what "himself" refers to?

That shouldn't be there.


Best regards.

To God...

God kills you himself. It's the same thing as "God personaly kills you" or "God kills you with his own power".
Just a style figure to insist on the fact that God is responsible here.

[BitNow]

To God...

God kills you himself. It's the same thing as "God personaly kills you" or "God kills you with his own power".
Just a style figure to insist on the fact that God is responsible here.

It's a low level language, the high level language sentence would had be: "God kills you with his own hands."


Best regards.

[BADecker]

Let me tell you something, as a theology major, that is: theology is nonsense. And I can and am allowed to say that because mine is an informed opinion. I'm not just talking out of my ass. And after 5 years my opinion (doesn't have to be yours too) is that it's just a bunch of hooey. How easy it is to make nonsense up, make people believe it, and then live out of people's ignorance. It's genius!

Perhaps if you had been a spiritual major, all that theology would have made some sense to you. Too bad. All that training, and what good did it do you. Essentially none... at least in the ways that are worth anything of eternal value.

Go study science with a focus on finding out how cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy combine to prove the existence of God. Then go back and review your theological training. You just might come to understand that even you can be saved for eternal life in pleasure and joy.

Yeah - it took me 5 years of studying theology to finally understand that it's all nonsense. That's my opinion, please respect it, I'll respect your and that's it. Don't force your ideas upon others. Go be with Jesus.

In Hell you will be saying for eternity, "Please God, let that guy force faith in you on me."

If God is so powerful and full of mercy and love He will forgive me, because I'm small and limited and He is all powerful. If not then He is spiteful and keeps spite like a small child.

He is trying to forgive you. But you will receive none of it.

The retarded black person over in Africa, who never learned to read or write, and who is not saved because he worships the idol his family taught him to worship, will be punished less in Hell than you, a theology major, who intentionally rejected God after you found out all about Him.

Now that's one of the most racist thing I've read in some time.
You mean to say that black people are retarded?
Or that he will go to Hell because he can't or did not learn to read?
Or because his parents taught him something and not about your God that he will go to Hell even if he hasn't never heard about God?
Dude... That's wrong on so many levels, i don't even know what to say...

You racist, you. Turning the things that I say into racism, and then emphasizing the racist part.

The person that doesn't know about God and goes to Hell will be punished less than the one who knows about God and rejects Him.

You call black people retarded and call me racist? You little sneaky...

No. You were the one who did that. Of course, why should it matter? Obviously you don't like my race... by the things you say.

[yugo23]

Let me tell you something, as a theology major, that is: theology is nonsense. And I can and am allowed to say that because mine is an informed opinion. I'm not just talking out of my ass. And after 5 years my opinion (doesn't have to be yours too) is that it's just a bunch of hooey. How easy it is to make nonsense up, make people believe it, and then live out of people's ignorance. It's genius!

Perhaps if you had been a spiritual major, all that theology would have made some sense to you. Too bad. All that training, and what good did it do you. Essentially none... at least in the ways that are worth anything of eternal value.

Go study science with a focus on finding out how cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy combine to prove the existence of God. Then go back and review your theological training. You just might come to understand that even you can be saved for eternal life in pleasure and joy.

Yeah - it took me 5 years of studying theology to finally understand that it's all nonsense. That's my opinion, please respect it, I'll respect your and that's it. Don't force your ideas upon others. Go be with Jesus.

In Hell you will be saying for eternity, "Please God, let that guy force faith in you on me."

If God is so powerful and full of mercy and love He will forgive me, because I'm small and limited and He is all powerful. If not then He is spiteful and keeps spite like a small child.

He is trying to forgive you. But you will receive none of it.

The retarded black person over in Africa, who never learned to read or write, and who is not saved because he worships the idol his family taught him to worship, will be punished less in Hell than you, a theology major, who intentionally rejected God after you found out all about Him.

Now that's one of the most racist thing I've read in some time.
You mean to say that black people are retarded?
Or that he will go to Hell because he can't or did not learn to read?
Or because his parents taught him something and not about your God that he will go to Hell even if he hasn't never heard about God?
Dude... That's wrong on so many levels, i don't even know what to say...

You racist, you. Turning the things that I say into racism, and then emphasizing the racist part.

The person that doesn't know about God and goes to Hell will be punished less than the one who knows about God and rejects Him.

You call black people retarded and call me racist? You little sneaky...

No. You were the one who did that. Of course, why should it matter? Obviously you don't like my race... by the things you say.

How did you both went on the racism point? I mean not everything HAS to go on that ground you know? ^^

[BADecker]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

[BADecker]

Free will?  That is something I can prove false...

If you believe these 3 common Christian beliefs:
1) God created the universe exactly as it is
2) God could have created the universe differently if he wanted to (billions of possibilities)
3) God is Omniscient (knows the future)

Then free will cannot exist

God created this specific universe, knowing exactly what would happen, including your personal choices (free will)...  he could have created a universe where I was a Christian instead of an Atheist, but God created this universe, knowing that I would be an Atheist... It's God's fault I'm an Atheist, not mine!

You have free will in deciding to have faith in him or not.



Best regards.

No. You only have free will to decide not to believe in Him. However, if your free will is weak enough, the Holy spirit can work faith in your heart.

So the Holy Spirit works better on the weak minded/spirited? That's really funny.
That would mean that the ones that are atheists have strong mindsets.
Thank you for the compliment. It's very welcome.

Unfortunately for them, if their spiritual strength is strong enough to resist God, they are resisting their own salvation, and plunging themselves into Hell.

Oh well. They asked for it. Even god gave them this ability. Jesus said, "Shake the dust off your feet."

You wrote god instead of God. You sinner! How could you forget? What if God will forget to offer you air tomorrow?! you should be stoned to death or something. 

Jesus forgives me. And even if I get stoned - to death - God has a place in Heaven for me, with Him.

If that happens I will not throw not even one stone. But neither will I stop the others that will throw them. But you'll be fine. God will take you. We'll drink a beer in your memory. All's cool.

My memory of you when I am in Heaven will be non-existent... if you don't make it.

It's going to be hard but I'll try to get over it somehow. But don't worry - you'll be floating on top of a big bowl of white mashed potatoes.

And you'll be in the fire that keeps it nice and comfy warm.     

[BADecker]

Dude stop spamming, you don't have to make 4 answers just to say one sentence each time. It takes place on my screen and on my internet connection (which is low I know).

He means you, Mr.flea-bit-hat.   

That was just mean, and uncalled for.
So when other users make reason you're just throwing insults? That's so christian of you.

Oh, no.

You hypocrite. You feign pain when it makes you feel good. Otherwise you dish it out, and often worse than could think of doing.

[BADecker]

Let me tell you something, as a theology major, that is: theology is nonsense. And I can and am allowed to say that because mine is an informed opinion. I'm not just talking out of my ass. And after 5 years my opinion (doesn't have to be yours too) is that it's just a bunch of hooey. How easy it is to make nonsense up, make people believe it, and then live out of people's ignorance. It's genius!

Perhaps if you had been a spiritual major, all that theology would have made some sense to you. Too bad. All that training, and what good did it do you. Essentially none... at least in the ways that are worth anything of eternal value.

Go study science with a focus on finding out how cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy combine to prove the existence of God. Then go back and review your theological training. You just might come to understand that even you can be saved for eternal life in pleasure and joy.

Yeah - it took me 5 years of studying theology to finally understand that it's all nonsense. That's my opinion, please respect it, I'll respect your and that's it. Don't force your ideas upon others. Go be with Jesus.

In Hell you will be saying for eternity, "Please God, let that guy force faith in you on me."

If God is so powerful and full of mercy and love He will forgive me, because I'm small and limited and He is all powerful. If not then He is spiteful and keeps spite like a small child.

He is trying to forgive you. But you will receive none of it.

The retarded black person over in Africa, who never learned to read or write, and who is not saved because he worships the idol his family taught him to worship, will be punished less in Hell than you, a theology major, who intentionally rejected God after you found out all about Him.

Now that's one of the most racist thing I've read in some time.
You mean to say that black people are retarded?
Or that he will go to Hell because he can't or did not learn to read?
Or because his parents taught him something and not about your God that he will go to Hell even if he hasn't never heard about God?
Dude... That's wrong on so many levels, i don't even know what to say...

You racist, you. Turning the things that I say into racism, and then emphasizing the racist part.

The person that doesn't know about God and goes to Hell will be punished less than the one who knows about God and rejects Him.

You call black people retarded and call me racist? You little sneaky...

No. You were the one who did that. Of course, why should it matter? Obviously you don't like my race... by the things you say.

How did you both went on the racism point? I mean not everything HAS to go on that ground you know? ^^

Obviously, you didn't read these posts.   

[yugo23]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

[BADecker]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

[yugo23]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

[BADecker]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

Hey, it's the only salvation you have. No matter what you think about it, get yourself saved, or you will wind up looking a thousand times more gross in Hell.

[craked5]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

Hey, it's the only salvation you have. No matter what you think about it, get yourself saved, or you will wind up looking a thousand times more gross in Hell.

So it's basically blackmail?

Where the fuck is the love in a god saying "you got the choice, burn and suffer for the eternity or praise and worship me. Your choice. But I'm a generous and good will god for sure".

[BADecker]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

Hey, it's the only salvation you have. No matter what you think about it, get yourself saved, or you will wind up looking a thousand times more gross in Hell.

So it's basically blackmail?

Where the fuck is the love in a god saying "you got the choice, burn and suffer for the eternity or praise and worship me. Your choice. But I'm a generous and good will god for sure".

God doesn't need any of us. Out of love He went to a lot of trouble to save us. It isn't blackmail. It is freedom. Choose life.

[craked5]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

Hey, it's the only salvation you have. No matter what you think about it, get yourself saved, or you will wind up looking a thousand times more gross in Hell.

So it's basically blackmail?

Where the fuck is the love in a god saying "you got the choice, burn and suffer for the eternity or praise and worship me. Your choice. But I'm a generous and good will god for sure".

God doesn't need any of us. Out of love He went to a lot of trouble to save us. It isn't blackmail. It is freedom. Choose life.

In lot of trouble?
It's GOD! He's supposed to have absolute power! He can't just "have trouble" how could he??? He just has to think about something so this thing happen! Aren't you in total contradiction with the image of God of Christians?

[BADecker]

There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

Hey, it's the only salvation you have. No matter what you think about it, get yourself saved, or you will wind up looking a thousand times more gross in Hell.

So it's basically blackmail?

Where the fuck is the love in a god saying "you got the choice, burn and suffer for the eternity or praise and worship me. Your choice. But I'm a generous and good will god for sure".

God doesn't need any of us. Out of love He went to a lot of trouble to save us. It isn't blackmail. It is freedom. Choose life.

In lot of trouble?
It's GOD! He's supposed to have absolute power! He can't just "have trouble" how could he??? He just has to think about something so this thing happen! Aren't you in total contradiction with the image of God of Christians?

You don't understand the greatness God is giving us.

Can God contradict God? If He could, what would it look like if absolute power were contradicting absolute power?

God is not contradicting Himself. He absolutely is using His absolute power in the things He is doing with us. God has given us absolute power with Him. We are the ones that are contradicting God, each other, and ourselves.

Why don't we see the absolute power in ourselves? Because we are at the first wisps of the beginning of it. How can we, simple human mortals, be brought into the absolute power of God? The way it is happening to those of us who accept, is the only way that it can be done.

You are not thinking clearly.

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There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

Actually, this doesn't seem to matter to you... that we might be paying for the sins of someone else. Why not? Because you reject the way out, which is to have faith in the salvation made by Jesus Christ.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus (though they may not have known Him by that name). So, you show that you welcome sins worse than Adam and Eve committed, because you won't accept the only way out... Jesus. You are self-condemned.

Adam and Eve accepted Jesus?
But... He was not even born ? oO
And we wouldn't need salvation if God hadn't threw humanity out of Eden..

Who do you think was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day. It was Jesus-God.

Meh? Jesus-God? Why the "-"?
And Jesus existed in the Eden then was born again on Earth after?
And God needed to get Marie pregnant? That's fucking gross! You imagine?

Hey, it's the only salvation you have. No matter what you think about it, get yourself saved, or you will wind up looking a thousand times more gross in Hell.

So it's basically blackmail?

Where the fuck is the love in a god saying "you got the choice, burn and suffer for the eternity or praise and worship me. Your choice. But I'm a generous and good will god for sure".

God doesn't need any of us. Out of love He went to a lot of trouble to save us. It isn't blackmail. It is freedom. Choose life.

In lot of trouble?
It's GOD! He's supposed to have absolute power! He can't just "have trouble" how could he??? He just has to think about something so this thing happen! Aren't you in total contradiction with the image of God of Christians?

You don't understand the greatness God is giving us.

Can God contradict God? If He could, what would it look like if absolute power were contradicting absolute power?

God is not contradicting Himself. He absolutely is using His absolute power in the things He is doing with us. God has given us absolute power with Him. We are the ones that are contradicting God, each other, and ourselves.

Why don't we see the absolute power in ourselves? Because we are at the first wisps of the beginning of it. How can we, simple human mortals, be brought into the absolute power of God? The way it is happening to those of us who accept, is the only way that it can be done.

You are not thinking clearly.

Well now you're saying complete nonsense.
I'll try to be the clearest possible:
God = Absolute Power = Can make ANYTHING possible = can make the whole humanity happy just by thinking it
God doesn't do it = God doesn't care for us

Easy no?