What's your opinion of gun control?

[TheButterZone]

How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

Good and important point.  I would take some exception in the case of Stalin however.  As I understand things, he was mostly part of Lenin's entourage and the guy who came out on top at some point after the revolution.

I LMFAO every time defenders of the indefensible shriek "the majority", as if the worst mass murderers in history, would have believed rigging elections with their loyalist vote counters & killing non-loyalist vote counters, and using revolutionary propaganda to pretend they had "the majority" behind them (when the actual, verifiable, majority of people did not vote for them or support their revolution OR THEIR OWN DISARMAMENT AND SUBSEQUENT DEMOCIDE), would have crossed their moral line. http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm

It's just about as ridiculous as claiming a serial child rapist is above telling any lie at all, ever.

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How about: You're wrong and don't know history.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao had the majority. Hitler was elected, Mao and Staline led a revolution. Thanks for giving the wrong examples.

Good and important point.  I would take some exception in the case of Stalin however.  As I understand things, he was mostly part of Lenin's entourage and the guy who came out on top at some point after the revolution.

I LMFAO every time defenders of the indefensible shriek "the majority", as if the worst mass murderers in history, would have believed rigging elections with their loyalist vote counters & killing non-loyalist vote counters, and using revolutionary propaganda to pretend they had "the majority" behind them (when the actual, verifiable, majority of people did not vote for them or support their revolution OR THEIR OWN DISARMAMENT AND SUBSEQUENT DEMOCIDE), would have crossed their moral line. http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm

It's just about as ridiculous as claiming a serial child rapist is above telling any lie at all, ever.

What you don't understand is that it was not two sides fighting... It was one side strong, united, dominating. USSR people had the right to bear weapons, it didn't help them...

[MoneyChanger]

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

[darkangel11]

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

A great speech by a great man. I wish those liberal pussies in Europe would start seeing the need for protection. They should at the very least make rubber and gas bullets legal and available but they won't start thinking about it until it's too late.

[yugo23]

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

A great speech by a great man. I wish those liberal pussies in Europe would start seeing the need for protection. They should at the very least make rubber and gas bullets legal and available but they won't start thinking about it until it's too late.

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic!

[poptok1]

In my state you can own a black powder gun. Replica of a firearm up to 1856 without any permission.
You can load those guns with long banned bulets like dumdum and no one gives a F.
You can imagine what kind of damage that gun can do. They are 6-7 shooters with replaceble drum. So with 2drums you could harm 12-14 peeps. Massive power if loaded with dumdum.
And yet you cant own a modern pistol witch is more safe more civilized and have sr. number and safety trigger and bullets are made to harm not blown into smitherines...another nonsense

[yugo23]

In my state you can own a black powder gun. Replica of a firearm up to 1856 without any permission.
You can load those guns with long banned bulets like dumdum and no one gives a F.
You can imagine what kind of damage that gun can do. They are 6-7 shooters with replaceble drum. So with 2drums you could harm 12-14 peeps. Massive power if loaded with dumdum.
And yet you cant own a modern pistol witch is more safe more civilized and have sr. number and safety trigger and bullets are made to harm not blown into smitherines...another nonsense

Well it's only because you're not really supposed to own this gun... It's more like a loophole than a nonsense.

[TheButterZone]

This is my attitude also!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Don't give your guns you will be enslaved more easily.

A great speech by a great man. I wish those liberal pussies in Europe would start seeing the need for protection. They should at the very least make rubber and gas bullets legal and available but they won't start thinking about it until it's too late.

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic!

Such "obvious evidence" that no evidence at all is actually required to be cited to justify dancing in the blood of government-disarmed & defenseless innocents, since would-be murderers and rapists HATE getting shot by armed & defensive/ed innocents!

[bryant.coleman]

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic!

The American crime rates have nothing to do with gun ownership. Historically, crime rates in the United States have been higher than those in the European Union or Japan, due to various factors. Those with a gun can protect themselves from the criminals, and those who doesn't own one gets targeted very often. And I am sure that the country with the highest rate of violent rape (Sweden) is a gun-free nation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

[yugo23]

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic!

The American crime rates have nothing to do with gun ownership. Historically, crime rates in the United States have been higher than those in the European Union or Japan, due to various factors. Those with a gun can protect themselves from the criminals, and those who doesn't own one gets targeted very often. And I am sure that the country with the highest rate of violent rape (Sweden) is a gun-free nation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

And why should we allow gun in countries like France, UK, Belgium... Where there is less violent crimes and less rapes?

Not saying the American crime rates is due to guns, but the monthly massing shooting maybe a little no?

[Spendulus]

Yeah! Those liberal pussies who wants to ban guns because we have obvious evidence that the very "protected USA" has more rapes and more murderers than most EU countries! Damn pussies with their damn logic!

The American crime rates have nothing to do with gun ownership. Historically, crime rates in the United States have been higher than those in the European Union or Japan, due to various factors. Those with a gun can protect themselves from the criminals, and those who doesn't own one gets targeted very often. And I am sure that the country with the highest rate of violent rape (Sweden) is a gun-free nation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

And why should we allow gun in countries like France, UK, Belgium... Where there is less violent crimes and less rapes?

Not saying the American crime rates is due to guns, but the monthly massing shooting maybe a little no?

Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

It actually takes multivariate statistical analysis to get anywhere trying to draw meaning from a culture and guns, because of the many factors involved.

[bonski]

Mates I have read something last time about the most peaceful country in the world. And it is Iceland, does it mean they are not using guns on their society? So everyone there is confident that they have no violations and crimes with their country.

[melena]

I am with the freedom of using guns so every individual will be able do defined himself against anyone try to harm him

[TheButterZone]

To all the UK disarmed/defenseless murder victim grave-shitters/revisionist historians:

The United States’ Federal Bureau of Investigation adds up all the dead bodies that are reported to it and says that – for 2011 – there were 14,412 homicides of which 12,664 were murders among 311,591,917 Americans for a murder rate of 4.06 per 100,000.

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murders that have not been solved are not included [in England's government's crime stats]. If indications in the Telegraph are correct, that would substantially reduce the homicide rate in itself. Murders that have resulted in an arrest but no conviction are not counted. Convictions that have not been appealed are apparently not counted. And the number of minorities reported as murder victims is far below either the demographics or of reason.

If the media reports of a total of 4,760 “violent fatalities of interest to the police” from 1 January 2011 to 30 November 2012 are correct, the murder rate is 4.7 per 100,000 population, the same as our much more inclusive homicide rate, and substantially higher than the United States murder rate.

Of course, the British murder rate is likely to be much higher than 4.7. British police are notorious for “fiddling” with the crime data. Including murder data. It takes less effort to fail to report a crime to the media than it does to consistently report crimes.

If everything is taken into account, England most probably has a murder rate close to 6 per 100,000. Or more.

Banning effective self-defense works...

[bryant.coleman]

Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

[Aggressor66]

Because social conditions can, at times, change very rapidly.  Historically there are many cases of this.  Currently, the huge influx of "refugees" is such a condition.

Exactly. More than 1,000 cases of sexual assault were reported from various German cities (especially from Cologne and Hamburg) during the new years eve. More than 1,000 assaults in a 24-hour period! And that is just the tip of the iceberg, as most of the crimes are not reported. According to the latest reports, Arab immigrants are arriving in Greece at a rate of around 5,000 per day.

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.
Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

[magnific61]

Gun is a perfect deterrent.
So,  i think guns are necessary.
If laws prevent your right to obtain gun, one rober who obtained gun illegaly will rob you or worse, kill you for some of money.
Just laws should strictly keep under control guns.
Thats all guys

[MoneyChanger]

They will always find way to release you from something that belong to you!
Through history you have plenty evidence starting with gold.
This is not something new.
 

[Spendulus]

Gun is a perfect deterrent.
So,  i think guns are necessary.
If laws prevent your right to obtain gun, one rober who obtained gun illegaly will rob you or worse, kill you for some of money.
Just laws should strictly keep under control guns.
Thats all guys

I'm kind of thinking this matter should be personified.

It's Mr. Gun, my friend.

And Mr. Gun is a dire threat, if he is a friend of the fiend.

But if Mr. Gun is a friend to us all, then, well.  Maybe things will be civil.

[bonski]

Gun is a perfect deterrent.
So,  i think guns are necessary.
If laws prevent your right to obtain gun, one rober who obtained gun illegaly will rob you or worse, kill you for some of money.
Just laws should strictly keep under control guns.
Thats all guys

I'm kind of thinking this matter should be personified.

It's Mr. Gun, my friend.

And Mr. Gun is a dire threat, if he is a friend of the fiend.

But if Mr. Gun is a friend to us all, then, well.  Maybe things will be civil.

People with guns became boastful when they already had. So the gun owners must learn to respect and always keep calm because it might trigger them to play with their guns in no time and can get someones life with just a simple kid fight.