What's your opinion of gun control?

[bryant.coleman]

Taking away the rights of an average citizen to obtain and use a gun doesn't prevent criminals and psychopaths from getting guns. It just means that regular people won't be able to defend themselves.

In the United States, illegal guns are used in almost 90% of the gun-related crimes. With Mexican drug cartels such as the Los Zetas, Barrio Azteca and Los Mazatlecos expanding their operations to the Southern United States, it is only a matter of time before states such as Texas going to get swamped from illegal firearms. And if you take the guns away from the American citizens in these states, it will make them sitting ducks against the drug peddlers.

[criptix]

Taking away the rights of an average citizen to obtain and use a gun doesn't prevent criminals and psychopaths from getting guns. It just means that regular people won't be able to defend themselves.

In the United States, illegal guns are used in almost 90% of the gun-related crimes. With Mexican drug cartels such as the Los Zetas, Barrio Azteca and Los Mazatlecos expanding their operations to the Southern United States, it is only a matter of time before states such as Texas going to get swamped from illegal firearms. And if you take the guns away from the American citizens in these states, it will make them sitting ducks against the drug peddlers.

Where do illegal guns come from? Self made at home wit anvil, hammer and fire? Lol

[Wilikon]

Taking away the rights of an average citizen to obtain and use a gun doesn't prevent criminals and psychopaths from getting guns. It just means that regular people won't be able to defend themselves.

In the United States, illegal guns are used in almost 90% of the gun-related crimes. With Mexican drug cartels such as the Los Zetas, Barrio Azteca and Los Mazatlecos expanding their operations to the Southern United States, it is only a matter of time before states such as Texas going to get swamped from illegal firearms. And if you take the guns away from the American citizens in these states, it will make them sitting ducks against the drug peddlers.

Where do illegal guns come from? Self made at home wit anvil, hammer and fire? Lol

The same way killers used illegals full autos at the bataclan in Paris.

[Wilikon]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6612/west-hollywood-inundated-poster-rainbow-gadsen-hank-berrien

[criptix]

Taking away the rights of an average citizen to obtain and use a gun doesn't prevent criminals and psychopaths from getting guns. It just means that regular people won't be able to defend themselves.

In the United States, illegal guns are used in almost 90% of the gun-related crimes. With Mexican drug cartels such as the Los Zetas, Barrio Azteca and Los Mazatlecos expanding their operations to the Southern United States, it is only a matter of time before states such as Texas going to get swamped from illegal firearms. And if you take the guns away from the American citizens in these states, it will make them sitting ducks against the drug peddlers.

Where do illegal guns come from? Self made at home wit anvil, hammer and fire? Lol

The same way killers used illegals full autos at the bataclan in Paris.

You didnt answer my question with your question.
Where do the weapons come from? Please just answer that question and dont be so dodgy.

[iCEBREAKER]

Damn, beat me by two seconds!

I wonder why this isn't at the top of Imgur?



Also, a gun-grabbing socialist MP was just shot dead in the UK.

Irony.  Don't bring the Fabian Manifesto to a gun fight!  LOL

[Wilikon]

Damn, beat me by two seconds!

I wonder why this isn't at the top of Imgur?



Also, a gun-grabbing socialist MP was just shot dead in the UK.

Irony.  Don't bring the Fabian Manifesto to a gun fight!  LOL

Proof that gun-control works.

[helloeverybody]

Damn, beat me by two seconds!

I wonder why this isn't at the top of Imgur?



Also, a gun-grabbing socialist MP was just shot dead in the UK.

Irony.  Don't bring the Fabian Manifesto to a gun fight!  LOL

Proof that gun-control works.

To be fair,  the uk has some of the least gun crime in the world.  Obviously its very difficult to reduce gun crime down to 0.  America obviously has no chance to do anything about gun crime due to so many gun toting citizens.

[iCEBREAKER]

To be fair,  the uk has some of the least gun crime in the world.  Obviously its very difficult to reduce gun crime down to 0.  America obviously has no chance to do anything about gun crime due to so many gun toting citizens.

Armed Americans *DO* have the chance to "do anything about gun crime."

We #ShootBack.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=armed+single+mother+defends+home&ia=web

How did that galactically obvious, robustly illustrated point so effortlessly fly right over your helpless peasant head?

And that's not even getting into the fact that absent "so many gun toting citizens" the USA would still be part of the UK (its citizens remaining chattel property of the Crown and Throne).

[helloeverybody]

To be fair,  the uk has some of the least gun crime in the world.  Obviously its very difficult to reduce gun crime down to 0.  America obviously has no chance to do anything about gun crime due to so many gun toting citizens.

Armed Americans *DO* have the chance to "do anything about gun crime."

We #ShootBack.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=armed+single+mother+defends+home&ia=web

How did that galactically obvious, robustly illustrated point so effortlessly fly right over your helpless peasant head?

And that's not even getting into the fact that absent "so many gun toting citizens" the USA would still be part of the UK (its citizens remaining chattel property of the Crown and Throne).

Well that woman had a gun and protected herself because everyone in america has a gun.  Its not like you need a gun to protect yourself in the uk since armed Robberies are pretty rare occurrences.

Also did you just seriously use america declaring independence from the uk as a reason why you should have guns nowadays? 

I think you may have misunderstood me,  i agree that yous should be allowed guns,  there's so many guns in america that your all screwed,  it's too late for gun control for you.

[Wilikon]

To be fair,  the uk has some of the least gun crime in the world.  Obviously its very difficult to reduce gun crime down to 0.  America obviously has no chance to do anything about gun crime due to so many gun toting citizens.

Armed Americans *DO* have the chance to "do anything about gun crime."

We #ShootBack.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=armed+single+mother+defends+home&ia=web

How did that galactically obvious, robustly illustrated point so effortlessly fly right over your helpless peasant head?

And that's not even getting into the fact that absent "so many gun toting citizens" the USA would still be part of the UK (its citizens remaining chattel property of the Crown and Throne).

Well that woman had a gun and protected herself because everyone in america has a gun.  Its not like you need a gun to protect yourself in the uk since armed Robberies are pretty rare occurrences.

Also did you just seriously use america declaring independence from the uk as a reason why you should have guns nowadays? 

I think you may have misunderstood me,  i agree that yous should be allowed guns,  there's so many guns in america that your all screwed,  it's too late for gun control for you.

To be fair, knifing people on the scale the UK does it is pretty rare in the US... She was not only gunned down but also stabbed... Was this some kind of a... tradition?

[TheButterZone]

Taking away the rights of an average citizen to obtain and use a gun doesn't prevent criminals and psychopaths from getting guns. It just means that regular people won't be able to defend themselves.

In the United States, illegal guns are used in almost 90% of the gun-related crimes. With Mexican drug cartels such as the Los Zetas, Barrio Azteca and Los Mazatlecos expanding their operations to the Southern United States, it is only a matter of time before states such as Texas going to get swamped from illegal firearms. And if you take the guns away from the American citizens in these states, it will make them sitting ducks against the drug peddlers.

Where do illegal guns come from? Self made at home wit anvil, hammer and fire? Lol

The same way killers used illegals full autos at the bataclan in Paris.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinRqCocwGE

[iCEBREAKER]

To be fair,  the uk has some of the least gun crime in the world.  Obviously its very difficult to reduce gun crime down to 0.  America obviously has no chance to do anything about gun crime due to so many gun toting citizens.

Armed Americans *DO* have the chance to "do anything about gun crime."

We #ShootBack.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=armed+single+mother+defends+home&ia=web

How did that galactically obvious, robustly illustrated point so effortlessly fly right over your helpless peasant head?

And that's not even getting into the fact that absent "so many gun toting citizens" the USA would still be part of the UK (its citizens remaining chattel property of the Crown and Throne).

Well that woman had a gun and protected herself because everyone in america has a gun.  Its not like you need a gun to protect yourself in the uk since armed Robberies are pretty rare occurrences.

Also did you just seriously use america declaring independence from the uk as a reason why you should have guns nowadays? 

I think you may have misunderstood me,  i agree that yous should be allowed guns,  there's so many guns in america that your all screwed,  it's too late for gun control for you.

Oh sure, and it's not like you need a fire extinguisher, since arson is a pretty rare occurrence.

And you don't need a spare tire, since flats are rare.

And you don't need life insurance, since you only die once (unless Jon Snow).

I bet that filthy pinko MP wishes someone with a gun was around to stop her from getting stabbed, kicked, and shot in the face until dead.

I bet her now-motherless children and widowered husband also wish that.

Since I'm already here, I'll leave you with a fucking clue.  It may be the first you've ever encountered!

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

tl;dr: Not all Brits are helpless neutered plebs.

I went into a public-‘ouse to get a pint o’beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
…
O makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken sodgers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.

Be careful.  If you look down your nose at armed Americans any harder, you might get eye strain.   

[helloeverybody]

To be fair,  the uk has some of the least gun crime in the world.  Obviously its very difficult to reduce gun crime down to 0.  America obviously has no chance to do anything about gun crime due to so many gun toting citizens.

Armed Americans *DO* have the chance to "do anything about gun crime."

We #ShootBack.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=armed+single+mother+defends+home&ia=web

How did that galactically obvious, robustly illustrated point so effortlessly fly right over your helpless peasant head?

And that's not even getting into the fact that absent "so many gun toting citizens" the USA would still be part of the UK (its citizens remaining chattel property of the Crown and Throne).

Well that woman had a gun and protected herself because everyone in america has a gun.  Its not like you need a gun to protect yourself in the uk since armed Robberies are pretty rare occurrences.

Also did you just seriously use america declaring independence from the uk as a reason why you should have guns nowadays? 

I think you may have misunderstood me,  i agree that yous should be allowed guns,  there's so many guns in america that your all screwed,  it's too late for gun control for you.

Oh sure, and it's not like you need a fire extinguisher, since arson is a pretty rare occurrence.

And you don't need a spare tire, since flats are rare.

And you don't need life insurance, since you only die once (unless Jon Snow).

I bet that filthy pinko MP wishes someone with a gun was around to stop her from getting stabbed, kicked, and shot in the face until dead.

I bet her now-motherless children and widowered husband also wish that.

Since I'm already here, I'll leave you with a fucking clue.  It may be the first you've ever encountered!

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

tl;dr: Not all Brits are helpless neutered plebs.

I went into a public-‘ouse to get a pint o’beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
…
O makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken sodgers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.

Be careful.  If you look down your nose at armed Americans any harder, you might get eye strain.   

I don't really get where your going with this,  i mean fires are not  that rare so fire extinguishers are kind of needed,  also flat tyres,  again pretty common really so Always handy to have a spare.

Having to defend yourself against gun wielding robbers in the uk???  Not so common.

[Wilikon]

 The murder rate in England and Wales has risen sharply for the first time in a decade at a time when police have diverted detectives to investigate historic sex abuse and allegations against tabloid newspapers.

New figures show that the number of murders and manslaughter deaths increased by 14 per cent last year bringing the annual total to 574, or 11 deaths a week.

Officials at the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the surge was concentrated in London and the South East and described it as “peculiar”.

However, police sources said contributory factors may have been the re-deployment of detectives in London – where a fifth of the additional murders took place – as well as growing violence among migrants, including organised gangs.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12112024/Violent-crime-jumps-27-in-new-figures.html

[helloeverybody]

 The murder rate in England and Wales has risen sharply for the first time in a decade at a time when police have diverted detectives to investigate historic sex abuse and allegations against tabloid newspapers.

New figures show that the number of murders and manslaughter deaths increased by 14 per cent last year bringing the annual total to 574, or 11 deaths a week.

Officials at the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the surge was concentrated in London and the South East and described it as “peculiar”.

However, police sources said contributory factors may have been the re-deployment of detectives in London – where a fifth of the additional murders took place – as well as growing violence among migrants, including organised gangs.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12112024/Violent-crime-jumps-27-in-new-figures.html

Ok,  i cant help but notice a complete lack of guns in those crimes,  do you think it would be better if the criminals have easier access to guns?  Because atm criminals don't really use guns in robberies,  the cases where guns arr  used is gang on gang violence.  If your everyday civilian has guns then the bad guys will arm up too.

[iCEBREAKER]

I don't really get where your going with this,  i mean fires are not  that rare so fire extinguishers are kind of needed,  also flat tyres,  again pretty common really so Always handy to have a spare.

Having to defend yourself against gun wielding robbers in the uk???  Not so common.

The point is to rubbish your gutless arms-length statistical approach to calculating the utility of kinetic mechanical advantage in emergency situations, and ridicule your utilitarian approach to considering the existence/desirability of the human right of armed self-defense.

Let me be clear.

Real Americans #ShootBack.
That's why our ruggedly self-reliant citizens are no longer the property of the Crown and Throne.

English Pinkos #DieCoweringAndWhimpering.
That's why they remain the helplessly infantalized property of the Crown and Throne, as their children shall also be, as since time immemorial have been their fathers, mothers, and grandparents.

This isn't about the likelihood of gun wielding robbers; if you are not free to bear arms you are a slave.

[Wilikon]

 The murder rate in England and Wales has risen sharply for the first time in a decade at a time when police have diverted detectives to investigate historic sex abuse and allegations against tabloid newspapers.

New figures show that the number of murders and manslaughter deaths increased by 14 per cent last year bringing the annual total to 574, or 11 deaths a week.

Officials at the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the surge was concentrated in London and the South East and described it as “peculiar”.

However, police sources said contributory factors may have been the re-deployment of detectives in London – where a fifth of the additional murders took place – as well as growing violence among migrants, including organised gangs.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12112024/Violent-crime-jumps-27-in-new-figures.html

Ok,  i cant help but notice a complete lack of guns in those crimes,  do you think it would be better if the criminals have easier access to guns?  Because atm criminals don't really use guns in robberies,  the cases where guns arr  used is gang on gang violence.  If your everyday civilian has guns then the bad guys will arm up too.

So... Everyday civilians should be butchered by bad guys because it is in their nature, and they only use knives... got it.

[helloeverybody]

I don't really get where your going with this,  i mean fires are not  that rare so fire extinguishers are kind of needed,  also flat tyres,  again pretty common really so Always handy to have a spare.

Having to defend yourself against gun wielding robbers in the uk???  Not so common.

The point is to rubbish your gutless arms-length statistical approach to calculating the utility of kinetic mechanical advantage in emergency situations, and ridicule your utilitarian approach to considering the existence/desirability of the human right of armed self-defense.

Let me be clear.

Real Americans #ShootBack.
That's why our ruggedly self-reliant citizens are no longer the property of the Crown and Throne.

English Pinkos #DieCoweringAndWhimpering.
That's why they remain the helplessly infantalized property of the Crown and Throne, as their children shall also be, as since time immemorial have been their fathers, mothers, and grandparents.

This isn't about the likelihood of gun wielding robbers; if you are not free to bear arms you are a slave.

Lol,  you make me laugh, being free to bear arms isn't what makes you free from being a slave,  your American,  you should know better.

 The murder rate in England and Wales has risen sharply for the first time in a decade at a time when police have diverted detectives to investigate historic sex abuse and allegations against tabloid newspapers.

New figures show that the number of murders and manslaughter deaths increased by 14 per cent last year bringing the annual total to 574, or 11 deaths a week.

Officials at the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the surge was concentrated in London and the South East and described it as “peculiar”.

However, police sources said contributory factors may have been the re-deployment of detectives in London – where a fifth of the additional murders took place – as well as growing violence among migrants, including organised gangs.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12112024/Violent-crime-jumps-27-in-new-figures.html

Ok,  i cant help but notice a complete lack of guns in those crimes,  do you think it would be better if the criminals have easier access to guns?  Because atm criminals don't really use guns in robberies,  the cases where guns arr  used is gang on gang violence.  If your everyday civilian has guns then the bad guys will arm up too.

So... Everyday civilians should be butchered by bad guys because it is in their nature, and they only use knives... got it.

What  I'm saying is that criminals in the uk  know they could be caught and carrying a gun carries a minimum sentence of 5 years so the majority don't take the risk to get a gun,  the ones that are intent to do damage use knives,  this lowers the risk factor significantly.

They've obviously come up with a tactic that persuades criminals to use knives instead of guns.  That's an improvement.

[iCEBREAKER]

So... Everyday civilians should be butchered by bad guys because it is in their nature, and they only use knives... got it.

Yes, you got it.

Single mothers protecting their children from bad guys with knives should only be allowed to use knives (and upper-body strength) in self-defense.

It wouldn't be fair to give them an advantage over their assailants in the form of a gun.

A single mother has no right to effectively resist initiation of violence with overwhelming retaliatory violence, only the right to bleed out as she sees and hears the bad guys doing whatever they like to her child.

/(former) MP Jo Cox logic