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March 18, 2017, 03:10:21 AM
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have someone tried some strategy using AI, i think that would be interesting, any one?some prediction algorythm?
Yeah, I've talked to a few people that was planning to use some machine learning or have started using machine learning to do it. I don't see any of them playing anymore, so I assume it failed. Which makes sense, you need data with a structure for machine learning to find a pattern. When trying to predict the outcomes of rolls while playing at 50%, the AI will likely have a success rate or about, oh I don't know, 50%.
i was searching about it, it seemed interesting to me, a friend told me to look bayesian networks, i was looking for logistic regression to see if could be a possible solution, its a topic interesting to me, and ill give it a try

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March 18, 2017, 08:29:16 AM
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have someone tried some strategy using AI, i think that would be interesting, any one?some prediction algorythm?
Yeah, I've talked to a few people that was planning to use some machine learning or have started using machine learning to do it. I don't see any of them playing anymore, so I assume it failed. Which makes sense, you need data with a structure for machine learning to find a pattern. When trying to predict the outcomes of rolls while playing at 50%, the AI will likely have a success rate or about, oh I don't know, 50%.
i was searching about it, it seemed interesting to me, a friend told me to look bayesian networks, i was looking for logistic regression to see if could be a possible solution, its a topic interesting to me, and ill give it a try


Good luck with that. Let me know i fyou are able to predict rolls with accuracy significantly higher than your chance of winning.

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March 18, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
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Are people genuinely making long term profits with this software?
I don't think that there's a way around the house edge, no matter which weird way you gamble.
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March 18, 2017, 09:59:55 AM
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Hello anyone get profit using this bot program for playing dice games?? i search in google there many people tell, they can get big profit by using bot in dice game.
What you need to understand is that this bot is not a "magic money making device"... It is effectively just like playing Dice on the individual sites manually (or using autobet)... The added value comes from the fact that it allows you to set up a whole bunch of different settings that a lot of sites don't provide and allows you to automate a bunch of more complicated things...

like raise bet for 5 losses, then decrease twice, then increase until bet > X then reset to basebet etc... Or it will allow you to run more complex strategies than a simple martingale, like Labouchere etc...

It isn't some sort of "cheat" or "hack" and there is no guarantee you will win using this bot...

Thanks for your explanation Wink I do understand it. However, is it still possible to program the bot so when a streak of 6 reds happend, and let's stay you win on the 7th, the bot will automatically set the lossstartmult to, let's say, 4?

Maybe seuntjie or some expert programmer might know it? So far i've been playing that way for days and i'm just betting small amounts, so it will need to be a 20'ish red streak at 60% to happen to bust me and it's working pretty well.

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March 18, 2017, 10:09:38 AM
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Are people genuinely making long term profits with this software?
I don't think that there's a way around the house edge, no matter which weird way you gamble.
Do you think that he build this software to make you profit in the long term bypassing the house edge  Tongue,he has given you more options than in a regular site and any one can create their own unique experience when it comes to rolling dice and with the options you have to come up with a solution on not to get busted,have some calculation and try that out with the bank roll you have and you will enjoy.
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March 18, 2017, 10:28:56 AM
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Are people genuinely making long term profits with this software?
I don't think that there's a way around the house edge, no matter which weird way you gamble.
Yes, this bot doesn't guarantee you will be able to make profit, no matter what strategy you use, how weird you gamble, what kind of dice bot/script you use, you will lose in the long run because there is house edge and you can't avoid that.

Do you think that he build this software to make you profit in the long term bypassing the house edge  Tongue,he has given you more options than in a regular site and any one can create their own unique experience when it comes to rolling dice and with the options you have to come up with a solution on not to get busted,have some calculation and try that out with the bank roll you have and you will enjoy.
Agreed, with this bot we are having more options about the strategy which we want to try. The main purpose of this bot is only for entertain while you gamble.

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March 18, 2017, 11:01:44 AM
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Are people genuinely making long term profits with this software?
I don't think that there's a way around the house edge, no matter which weird way you gamble.

DiceBot, like all casinos and casino games is about having fun, not making money. Gambling is paying for entertainment, and DiceBot just makes the game of dice a bit more fun/interesting. DiceBot is not intended to be used for profit, as it cannot make you profit in the long run, its to be used for entertainment purposes only. Never gamble more than you afford can lose.

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March 18, 2017, 01:56:10 PM
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Are people genuinely making long term profits with this software?
I don't think that there's a way around the house edge, no matter which weird way you gamble.

DiceBot, like all casinos and casino games is about having fun, not making money. Gambling is paying for entertainment, and DiceBot just makes the game of dice a bit more fun/interesting. DiceBot is not intended to be used for profit, as it cannot make you profit in the long run, its to be used for entertainment purposes only. Never gamble more than you afford can lose.
Thanks for the explanation. That's what I thought, I just wanted clarification just to make sure Smiley
Good luck with development.
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March 18, 2017, 06:16:37 PM
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who can write a script for this bot?

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March 20, 2017, 05:12:55 PM
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Hello seuntjie just wondering can you add a minus on multiplier ? since in bitsler we can insert a multiplier to -100 %

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March 20, 2017, 10:02:18 PM
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Hello seuntjie just wondering can you add a minus on multiplier ? since in bitsler we can insert a multiplier to -100 %

the answer is in the other dicebot thread, to one of my posts.
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March 21, 2017, 12:54:16 AM
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Thanks for your explanation Wink I do understand it. However, is it still possible to program the bot so when a streak of 6 reds happend, and let's stay you win on the 7th, the bot will automatically set the lossstartmult to, let's say, 4?

Maybe seuntjie or some expert programmer might know it? So far i've been playing that way for days and i'm just betting small amounts, so it will need to be a 20'ish red streak at 60% to happen to bust me and it's working pretty well.
Of course it is possible. You just need to create a variable to track your current loss streak, so that when a win happens you can check it to see if it satisfies your requirements, and then sets the lossstartmult to whatever you want...

Code:
...
currLossStreak = 0
...
function dobet()

  if win then
    if currLossStreak >= 6 then
      lossstartmult = 4
    end
    currLossStreak = 0

    -- do other win stuff

  else
    currLossStreak += 1

    -- do other loss stuff
  end

end

Hopefully you follow the logic:

- Initialise currLossStreak to 0
- If the roll was a win, check to see if it was after a lossStreak of 6 (or more)... if it was, set lossstartmult. Reset currLossStreak to 0.
- If the roll was a loss, then increment the currLossStreak counter.


EDIT: Just remembered you'd actually posted your script earlier... you already have the lossCount variable... and the "if (!win)" section in your code... use those...

Code:
if (!win) then
  lossCount += 1
else
  if lossCount >= 5 then
    lossStartMult = 4
    -- you may also want to recalculate the maxLosses value that is set at start of script????
    -- maxLosses = lossStartMult + 5
    -- but I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to achieve with reseting the lossStartMult ;)
  end
  lossCount = 0
end

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March 21, 2017, 01:00:22 AM
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Hello seuntjie just wondering can you add a minus on multiplier ? since in bitsler we can insert a multiplier to -100 %
It is very simple, you only need to set the multiplier below than 1.0000, in this case, set your multiplier to 0.9 (If you want -10%), 0.8 (if you want -20%).

Hello seuntjie just wondering can you add a minus on multiplier ? since in bitsler we can insert a multiplier to -100 %

the answer is in the other dicebot thread, to one of my posts.
Here is the post (If he is too lazy to search it)
how do i reduce a bet by a certain percentage or fraction in the martingale section, I've read the steemit post but can't work it out.

say if i want to reduce the bet by 20% or 1/5, how do i do that??
hope to see answer from this good question it would be a good information likewise im also trying to to figure out what would
be a better settings not to lose with martingale set up if we can lessen it up using the bot what would be the best approach.

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how do i reduce a bet by a certain percentage or fraction in the martingale section, I've read the steemit post but can't work it out.

say if i want to reduce the bet by 20% or 1/5, how do i do that??

multiplier = (100+percentage increase)/100

thus multiplier = (100+(-20))/100 = 80/100=0.8

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who can write a script for this bot?
There are lots people who can write the script,check on here first maybe the script what do you want has been written by someone else
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114503.0

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March 21, 2017, 04:17:11 AM
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Hello seuntjie just wondering can you add a minus on multiplier ? since in bitsler we can insert a multiplier to -100 %
It is very simple, you only need to set the multiplier below than 1.0000, in this case, set your multiplier to 0.9 (If you want -10%), 0.8 (if you want -20%).

Hello seuntjie just wondering can you add a minus on multiplier ? since in bitsler we can insert a multiplier to -100 %

the answer is in the other dicebot thread, to one of my posts.
Here is the post (If he is too lazy to search it)
how do i reduce a bet by a certain percentage or fraction in the martingale section, I've read the steemit post but can't work it out.

say if i want to reduce the bet by 20% or 1/5, how do i do that??
hope to see answer from this good question it would be a good information likewise im also trying to to figure out what would
be a better settings not to lose with martingale set up if we can lessen it up using the bot what would be the best approach.

reply from Seuntjie

how do i reduce a bet by a certain percentage or fraction in the martingale section, I've read the steemit post but can't work it out.

say if i want to reduce the bet by 20% or 1/5, how do i do that??

multiplier = (100+percentage increase)/100

thus multiplier = (100+(-20))/100 = 80/100=0.8

Algebra.

who can write a script for this bot?
There are lots people who can write the script,check on here first maybe the script what do you want has been written by someone else
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114503.0


there is no such no,my script is unique and very complex,no one can write ,

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March 21, 2017, 04:42:11 AM
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So you're wanting to hire someone to code for you? Because that I am willing to discuss... If you can give some more details (PM, if you don't want your script details in a public forum) maybe we can come to some sort of agreement... but if it is as complex as you seem to think it is... then it certainly isn't going to be done for free. Wink

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March 21, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
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it wont be hard to find someone to code the script if you dont know or dont want to code it

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March 24, 2017, 06:30:26 AM
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how to make a script that would have done 1000 bets stopped and showed what was the biggest and smallest rolls

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March 24, 2017, 09:59:07 AM
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how to make a script that would have done 1000 bets stopped and showed what was the biggest and smallest rolls

take a look at the "jackpot hunter" script on my site, you can modify it a bit to do what you need: https://bot.seuntjie.com/scripts.aspx?id=65

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I saw your script,but I failed to change,it is necessary that he did the following steps (1) chance 98 (2) bet=0.00000001 ( 3) number of bets=1000 (4) stop (5)to indicate the number fell the largest and the smallest,I thought your website could help me

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March 24, 2017, 05:28:02 PM
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Thanks for your explanation Wink I do understand it. However, is it still possible to program the bot so when a streak of 6 reds happend, and let's stay you win on the 7th, the bot will automatically set the lossstartmult to, let's say, 4?

Maybe seuntjie or some expert programmer might know it? So far i've been playing that way for days and i'm just betting small amounts, so it will need to be a 20'ish red streak at 60% to happen to bust me and it's working pretty well.
Of course it is possible. You just need to create a variable to track your current loss streak, so that when a win happens you can check it to see if it satisfies your requirements, and then sets the lossstartmult to whatever you want...

Code:
...
currLossStreak = 0
...
function dobet()

  if win then
    if currLossStreak >= 6 then
      lossstartmult = 4
    end
    currLossStreak = 0

    -- do other win stuff

  else
    currLossStreak += 1

    -- do other loss stuff
  end

end

Hopefully you follow the logic:

- Initialise currLossStreak to 0
- If the roll was a win, check to see if it was after a lossStreak of 6 (or more)... if it was, set lossstartmult. Reset currLossStreak to 0.
- If the roll was a loss, then increment the currLossStreak counter.


EDIT: Just remembered you'd actually posted your script earlier... you already have the lossCount variable... and the "if (!win)" section in your code... use those...

Code:
if (!win) then
  lossCount += 1
else
  if lossCount >= 5 then
    lossStartMult = 4
    -- you may also want to recalculate the maxLosses value that is set at start of script????
    -- maxLosses = lossStartMult + 5
    -- but I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to achieve with reseting the lossStartMult ;)
  end
  lossCount = 0
end

Hi again! Thanks to your help, i've managed to achieve more or less what i wanted. However, do you know how i can set the parameters inside the script to only make the change of lossmult during a certain amount of bets, and then go back to the initial? Any help will be much apreciatted! thanks

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