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March 24, 2017, 10:10:42 PM
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Hi guys, congrats to us all for the wonderful forum.

Now first and foremost also like to thank Seuntjie for the WONDERFUL tool and programming language (already donated my friend Smiley ) that enable me to streak 200000 bets (more than 24 hours)  in a row without loosing my bankroll.

The trick has Seuntjie stated is to low bet with high bankroll. The marvelous part of Seuntjie's bot is that one can make a strategy based on prebetting and then fish for the long loosing strike.

I've programmed a version of one of Seuntjie's script that basically I can leave running for days and have a very low probability of loosing (about 0.84% in a 500 bet streak) My script can make profits of 60/70% of current balance and withstand 100+ loosing strikes. Slowly but surely, I've been getting steady profits and IT WORKS on the long run, despite the house edge (and what other people say).

There is always a way to beat the house edge, its mathematical. Of course that using simple Martingale strategies and Labouchère on the long run you will ALWAYS loose. Even with high bank roll the math does not play in our favor.

I've taken few hours in making the math and fine-tuning the script but it has guaranteed results. Now I'm not trying to sell anything here with this post but also please don't ask to give the script for free since I lost about 1.5 BTC in fine-tuning it... Sad Investigate, loose money yourself - I'm the living proof that IT WORKS.

This post is just a testimony that house does not always win and IT IS possible to win while sleeping on the long run!

Seuntjie - you're a God. Congrats for the marvelous tool.
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Hi guys, congrats to us all for the wonderful forum.

Now first and foremost also like to thank Seuntjie for the WONDERFUL tool and programming language (already donated my friend Smiley ) that enable me to streak 200000 bets (more than 24 hours)  in a row without loosing my bankroll.

The trick has Seuntjie stated is to low bet with high bankroll. The marvelous part of Seuntjie's bot is that one can make a strategy based on prebetting and then fish for the long loosing strike.

I've programmed a version of one of Seuntjie's script that basically I can leave running for days and have a very low probability of loosing (about 0.84% in a 500 bet streak) My script can make profits of 60/70% of current balance and withstand 100+ loosing strikes. Slowly but surely, I've been getting steady profits and IT WORKS on the long run, despite the house edge (and what other people say).

There is always a way to beat the house edge, its mathematical. Of course that using simple Martingale strategies and Labouchère on the long run you will ALWAYS loose. Even with high bank roll the math does not play in our favor.

I've taken few hours in making the math and fine-tuning the script but it has guaranteed results. Now I'm not trying to sell anything here with this post but also please don't ask to give the script for free since I lost about 1.5 BTC in fine-tuning it... Sad Investigate, loose money yourself - I'm the living proof that IT WORKS.

This post is just a testimony that house does not always win and IT IS possible to win while sleeping on the long run!

Seuntjie - you're a God. Congrats for the marvelous tool.
http://i.imgur.com/zdKMrko.png



wow....
I hope, I can follow your way...
still try find the best scripts available, and find the suitable basebet vs bankroll...
 
if I may ask, did you made the script by yourself from 0, or modified and finetune from available script @web...?
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March 25, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
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how to make a script that would have done 1000 bets stopped and showed what was the biggest and smallest rolls

Use the lastBet object... the value of the last roll is stored in lastBet.roll

Then you just compare each roll to the biggest/smallest value and save it if it is bigger/smaller. So, something like this:

Code:

--CODE HAS NOT BEEN TESTED!!

... other vars...

biggest = 0
lowest = 100

numBets = 0

function doBet()

  ... stuff ...

  if lastBet.roll < lowest then
    lowest = lastBet.roll
  end
  if lastBet.roll > biggest then
    biggest = lastBet.roll
  end
  
  ... other stuff ...
  
  numBets = numBets + 1
  if numBets >= 1000 then
    print("BIGGEST roll: " .. biggest)
    print("smallest roll: " .. smallest)
    stop()
  end
end


Hi again! Thanks to your help, i've managed to achieve more or less what i wanted. However, do you know how i can set the parameters inside the script to only make the change of lossmult during a certain amount of bets, and then go back to the initial? Any help will be much apreciatted! thanks

ummmm put in another counter when you change the lossmult? set it to zero, increment it every roll... and when it gets to the number of bets you set, you can just set lossStartMult back to whatever you want...

Code:
--CODE HAS NOT BEEN TESTED!

if (!win) then
  lossCount += 1
else
  if lossCount >= 5 then
    lossStartMult = 4

    -- NEW COUNTER
    lossStartMultCounter = 0
  end
  lossCount = 0
end

--Increment every roll
lossStartMultCounter += 1

-- if it gets to big, reset lossStartMult and reset the counter as well
if lossStartMultCounter >= xNumberOfBets then
  lossStartMult = initialLossStartMultValue (or whatever else you feel like)
  lossStartMultCounter = 0
end if

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Hi guys, congrats to us all for the wonderful forum.

Now first and foremost also like to thank Seuntjie for the WONDERFUL tool and programming language (already donated my friend Smiley ) that enable me to streak 200000 bets (more than 24 hours)  in a row without loosing my bankroll.

The trick has Seuntjie stated is to low bet with high bankroll. The marvelous part of Seuntjie's bot is that one can make a strategy based on prebetting and then fish for the long loosing strike.

I've programmed a version of one of Seuntjie's script that basically I can leave running for days and have a very low probability of loosing (about 0.84% in a 500 bet streak) My script can make profits of 60/70% of current balance and withstand 100+ loosing strikes. Slowly but surely, I've been getting steady profits and IT WORKS on the long run, despite the house edge (and what other people say).

There is always a way to beat the house edge, its mathematical. Of course that using simple Martingale strategies and Labouchère on the long run you will ALWAYS loose. Even with high bank roll the math does not play in our favor.

I've taken few hours in making the math and fine-tuning the script but it has guaranteed results. Now I'm not trying to sell anything here with this post but also please don't ask to give the script for free since I lost about 1.5 BTC in fine-tuning it... Sad Investigate, loose money yourself - I'm the living proof that IT WORKS.

This post is just a testimony that house does not always win and IT IS possible to win while sleeping on the long run!

Seuntjie - you're a God. Congrats for the marvelous tool.
[im g]http://i.imgur.com/zdKMrko.png[/img]




If you are not trying to sell something and tell that you are not giving away anything for free… Isn’t that simple means “pm me about the price of the script” ?
If you are not giving it away for free and if you are promoting it, showing results etc. That means you are selling it. You just didn’t put a price on it.














 

 

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Hi again! Thanks to your help, i've managed to achieve more or less what i wanted. However, do you know how i can set the parameters inside the script to only make the change of lossmult during a certain amount of bets, and then go back to the initial? Any help will be much apreciatted! thanks

ummmm put in another counter when you change the lossmult? set it to zero, increment it every roll... and when it gets to the number of bets you set, you can just set lossStartMult back to whatever you want...

Code:
--CODE HAS NOT BEEN TESTED!

if (!win) then
  lossCount += 1
else
  if lossCount >= 5 then
    lossStartMult = 4

    -- NEW COUNTER
    lossStartMultCounter = 0
  end
  lossCount = 0
end

--Increment every roll
lossStartMultCounter += 1

-- if it gets to big, reset lossStartMult and reset the counter as well
if lossStartMultCounter >= xNumberOfBets then
  lossStartMult = initialLossStartMultValue (or whatever else you feel like)
  lossStartMultCounter = 0
end if
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Thanks very much again Smiley i'll try to set it up!

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March 26, 2017, 07:39:06 PM
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how do i recreate the preset list feature in programmer mode? but ad some advanced features.

say if i had a list that went:

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

and

Win on bet <5 jump back 1

Win on bet <10 but >5 jump back 2

etc

how would i program that?

it took me a day to learn and programme my first script and without help this is the limit of what i can do:
but i do like the script Smiley

fishing script:
Code:
chance=90
nextbet=0.00000001
bethigh=true

function dobet()

if lastBet.profit > 0.00000100 then
chance = 90
nextbet = 0.00000001
bethigh = true

end

if currentstreak == 9 then
chance = 10
nextbet = 0.00000020
bethigh=false

end

end

heres a safer version

Code:
chance=90
nextbet=0.00000001
bethigh=true


function dobet()

if currentstreak == 9 then
chance = 10
nextbet = 0.00000020
bethigh=false

else

chance = 90
nextbet = 0.00000001
bethigh=true

end

end

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March 26, 2017, 11:25:22 PM
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how do i recreate the preset list feature in programmer mode? but ad some advanced features.

say if i had a list that went:

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

and

- Win on bet <5 jump back 1
- Win on bet <10 but >5 jump back 2

etc

how would i program that?

it took me a day to learn and programme my first script and without help this is the limit of what i can do:
but i do like the script Smiley

Firstly, congrats on the effort you've made to learn how to program and write scripts yourself, rather than just blindly using scripts others have written. That shows initiative and a desire to learn... I respect that! Smiley

To answer you question about the preset list... you can simply create an array with the bets you want... then you would just iterate over the list, moving backwards and forwards as you need...

Code:
...
myBetArray = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}
arrayCounter = 1 -- LUA convention is that array index starts at 1 ;)

function dobet()
...
  if win then
    if arrayCounter < 5 then
      arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 1 -- jump back 1 in the list
    elseif arrayCounter < 10 then
      arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 2 -- jump back 2 in the list
    else
      arrayCounter = arrayCounter + 1
    end
    ... other win stuff ...
  else
    --loss, go to next bet in list
    arrayCounter = arrayCounter + 1
    ... other loss stuff ...
  end
 
  -- check to make sure we don't exceed the array size
  if arrayCounter > #myBetArray then
    -- reached end of list, prevent out of bound error
    arrayCounter = myBetArray[#myBetArray]
  end

  nextbet = myBetArray[arrayCounter]

end

Notes:
This code is really set for a list of 1-10. As the arrayCounter < 5 and arrayCounter < 10 is checking the position in the list... NOT the actual bet size... if you wanted to jump back based on bet size, regardless of how many items you had in your list, you would need to use something like:

Code:
  if myBetArray[arrayCounter] < 5 then
    arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 1
  elseif myBetArray[arrayCounter] < 10 then
    arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 2
  else

One last tip, try and indent your code... it makes it easier to follow the code blocks and see what end matches what block Wink

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Firstly, congrats on the effort you've made to learn how to program and write scripts yourself, rather than just blindly using scripts others have written. That shows initiative and a desire to learn... I respect that! Smiley

To answer you question about the preset list... you can simply create an array with the bets you want... then you would just iterate over the list, moving backwards and forwards as you need...

Code:
...
myBetArray = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}
arrayCounter = 1 -- LUA convention is that array index starts at 1 ;)

function dobet()
...
  if win then
    if arrayCounter < 5 then
      arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 1 -- jump back 1 in the list
    elseif arrayCounter < 10 then
      arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 2 -- jump back 2 in the list
    else
      arrayCounter = arrayCounter + 1
    end
    ... other win stuff ...
  else
    --loss, go to next bet in list
    arrayCounter = arrayCounter + 1
    ... other loss stuff ...
  end
  
  -- check to make sure we don't exceed the array size
  if arrayCounter > #myBetArray then
    -- reached end of list, prevent out of bound error
    arrayCounter = myBetArray[#myBetArray]
  end

  nextbet = myBetArray[arrayCounter]

end

Notes:
This code is really set for a list of 1-10. As the arrayCounter < 5 and arrayCounter < 10 is checking the position in the list... NOT the actual bet size... if you wanted to jump back based on bet size, regardless of how many items you had in your list, you would need to use something like:

Code:
 if myBetArray[arrayCounter] < 5 then
    arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 1
  elseif myBetArray[arrayCounter] < 10 then
    arrayCounter = arrayCounter - 2
  else

One last tip, try and indent your code... it makes it easier to follow the code blocks and see what end matches what block Wink

1st reply, everything i needed and i understand it!

HCP ... im lost for words!! thanks


-- there are errors when i try to run the script.
i edited the numbers in the array and the if < > e.g put 0.00000001 etc
it didn't start but i got it to start, then when it reached 0.00000010 it didn't stop

now it wont start

do i edit this?:
Code:
-- check to make sure we don't exceed the array size
  if arrayCounter > #myBetArray then
    -- reached end of list, prevent out of bound error
    arrayCounter = myBetArray[#myBetArray]
  end

  nextbet = myBetArray[arrayCounter]

end

ive messed with the script so much i cant remember what i did to make it start

have you tested it?




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If you are not trying to sell something and tell that you are not giving away anything for free… Isn’t that simple means “pm me about the price of the script” ?
If you are not giving it away for free and if you are promoting it, showing results etc. That means you are selling it. You just didn’t put a price on it.


1. No it does not. Having that said, everything in this life has a price except my integrity. Smiley My main focus in the post was to refute all that people that say and reiterate that the house always win on the long run, due to house edge. And that is mathematically WRONG, as long as there are guys like Seuntjie that made this wonderful tool. But if one plays only directly on the website - YES - you will never win. House edge rules.

2. Would you sell a script for free where you had lost about 1.5 BTC while testing it?

4. I'm not promoting a thing, again this was only to reiterate my success despite what other people are saying, which to some extend, is actually and offense to Seuntjie's work and for those which have spent hours in programming scripts like me. The only thing I can say is that I've used a based script from someone of this forum - and enough said. The rest I've programmed myself and yeah... thinking about it as I write, actually I'm promoting myself since I'm very proud of the script and the results I've managed to achieve.

5. Again, the only reason I took the trouble to screenshot my results was ONLY to support my post, since I'm a newbie around. But I hate to be called a liar.

6. If I didn't put a price that means I'm not selling it. But again, everything in this life has a price. EVERYTHING is always for sale. It's just a matter of numbers. But If I had with this post any intentions of selling my script I would go to proper area in this wonderful forum and make a decent post, with decent proofs and decent selling speech.

My 2 cents.
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If you are not giving it away for free and if you are promoting it, showing results etc. That means you are selling it. You just didn’t put a price on it.


1. No it does not. Having that said, everything in this life has a price except my integrity. Smiley My main focus in the post was to refute all that people that say and reiterate that the house always win on the long run, due to house edge. And that is mathematically WRONG, as long as there are guys like Seuntjie that made this wonderful tool. But if one plays only directly on the website - YES - you will never win. House edge rules.

2. Would you sell a script for free where you had lost about 1.5 BTC while testing it?

4. I'm not promoting a thing, again this was only to reiterate my success despite what other people are saying, which to some extend, is actually and offense to Seuntjie's work and for those which have spent hours in programming scripts like me. The only thing I can say is that I've used a based script from someone of this forum - and enough said. The rest I've programmed myself and yeah... thinking about it as I write, actually I'm promoting myself since I'm very proud of the script and the results I've managed to achieve.

5. Again, the only reason I took the trouble to screenshot my results was ONLY to support my post, since I'm a newbie around. But I hate to be called a liar.

6. If I didn't put a price that means I'm not selling it. But again, everything in this life has a price. EVERYTHING is always for sale. It's just a matter of numbers. But If I had with this post any intentions of selling my script I would go to proper area in this wonderful forum and make a decent post, with decent proofs and decent selling speech.

My 2 cents.

I didn't really say anything after your first post as I didn't want to rain on your parade, but I don't want people getting any more funny ideas about the bot than they already are.

Now, As the person that created this "wonderful tool" as you put it, the house always wins. The house edge always wins. ESPECIALLY when using something like DiceBot. You're MORE likely to lose money making hundreds of thousands of smaller bets than making 10 much larger bets. Gambling = paying for entertainment, no matter how you gamble. Playing with DiceBot is still gambling. The bot is only meant to be used for entertainment purposes.

Never gamble more than you can afford to lose!

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If you are not trying to sell something and tell that you are not giving away anything for free… Isn’t that simple means “pm me about the price of the script” ?
If you are not giving it away for free and if you are promoting it, showing results etc. That means you are selling it. You just didn’t put a price on it.


1. No it does not. Having that said, everything in this life has a price except my integrity. Smiley My main focus in the post was to refute all that people that say and reiterate that the house always win on the long run, due to house edge. And that is mathematically WRONG, as long as there are guys like Seuntjie that made this wonderful tool. But if one plays only directly on the website - YES - you will never win. House edge rules.

2. Would you sell a script for free where you had lost about 1.5 BTC while testing it?

4. I'm not promoting a thing, again this was only to reiterate my success despite what other people are saying, which to some extend, is actually and offense to Seuntjie's work and for those which have spent hours in programming scripts like me. The only thing I can say is that I've used a based script from someone of this forum - and enough said. The rest I've programmed myself and yeah... thinking about it as I write, actually I'm promoting myself since I'm very proud of the script and the results I've managed to achieve.

5. Again, the only reason I took the trouble to screenshot my results was ONLY to support my post, since I'm a newbie around. But I hate to be called a liar.

6. If I didn't put a price that means I'm not selling it. But again, everything in this life has a price. EVERYTHING is always for sale. It's just a matter of numbers. But If I had with this post any intentions of selling my script I would go to proper area in this wonderful forum and make a decent post, with decent proofs and decent selling speech.

My 2 cents.

I didn't really say anything after your first post as I didn't want to rain on your parade, but I don't want people getting any more funny ideas about the bot than they already are.

Now, As the person that created this "wonderful tool" as you put it, the house always wins. The house edge always wins. ESPECIALLY when using something like DiceBot. You're MORE likely to lose money making hundreds of thousands of smaller bets than making 10 much larger bets. Gambling = paying for entertainment, no matter how you gamble. Playing with DiceBot is still gambling. The bot is only meant to be used for entertainment purposes.

Never gamble more than you can afford to lose!

Thanks for your feedback Seuntjie. But still I'll have to disagree.

I could call up a few friends mathematicians @Cambridge that would strongly object as "the house always win" and refer it as actually an overstatement. Sure, casinos and gambling sites have an house edge, they have a business model that profits on it, BUT, this is applied to the amount you wager not so much to your bankroll. This sentence is true for the common individuals though. But it is not accurate - in its literal sense.

As a casino and card player I can say that "the house does NOT always win" the difference here is the semantics of the sentence. I mean - history books are full of such cases. But hey, I'm no different from average players so all in all, gambling sites have taken more money from me than I've won.

 For a casino or gambling site, when you're winning more than the expected by the amount you wager, they call that "cheating" when actually you have just won by using the universal language of probable math. (which several courts have proven wrong and forced casinos to "rebuild" their business strategies).  This is the reason why there are a few mathematicians out there (some known to the general public, there are even movies about it) that are strictly forbidden to enter in casinos (their hole families!!) since that "house edge" was over thrown off the window.

Take the roulette for instance. There was actually a guy called Gonzalo García-Pelayo that turned the 5% house edge to a 15% player edge! So no, house does not always win despite its known edge.

There is also some physics and quantum mechanics theory that goes even further but I'm just a curious guy and it goes beyond my realm.

I strongly agree though- Never gamble more than you can afford to lose! Smiley

But congrats for the superb software, house edge hasn't been an issue for me while using it. Those same friends @cambridge are in fact very impressed by it. You have built a money making monster. One just needs to know how to use it.
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March 28, 2017, 04:04:38 AM
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1st reply, everything i needed and i understand it!

HCP ... im lost for words!! thanks


-- there are errors when i try to run the script.
i edited the numbers in the array and the if < > e.g put 0.00000001 etc
it didn't start but i got it to start, then when it reached 0.00000010 it didn't stop

now it wont start

do i edit this?:
Code:
-- check to make sure we don't exceed the array size
  if arrayCounter > #myBetArray then
    -- reached end of list, prevent out of bound error
    arrayCounter = myBetArray[#myBetArray]
  end

  nextbet = myBetArray[arrayCounter]

end

ive messed with the script so much i cant remember what i did to make it start

have you tested it?

Firstly, it wasn't by any means a complete script... far from it... hence all of the "...do other stuff... " type messages spread through out the code... What I showed was merely a code snippet that should achieve the same functionality as the preset list..

If the script was meant to stop at the end of the list, then you'd just edit the "if arrayCounter > #myBetArray then" section and put a stop() in.

Code:
  if arrayCounter > #myBetArray then
    -- reached end of list, stop betting
    stop()
  end

I'm not sure what you mean by you couldn't get the script to start? If you just tried to copy and paste my original code without doing anything to it, it would probably not do anything because the nextbet value is not set before the dobet() function is called... so the site would (should?) probably reject the attempt as the bet would have been null or zero etc... were there any error messages displayed in the bottom left hand corner of the dicebot window?

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March 28, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
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Hi guys, congrats to us all for the wonderful forum.

Now first and foremost also like to thank Seuntjie for the WONDERFUL tool and programming language (already donated my friend Smiley ) that enable me to streak 200000 bets (more than 24 hours)  in a row without loosing my bankroll.

The trick has Seuntjie stated is to low bet with high bankroll. The marvelous part of Seuntjie's bot is that one can make a strategy based on prebetting and then fish for the long loosing strike.

I've programmed a version of one of Seuntjie's script that basically I can leave running for days and have a very low probability of loosing (about 0.84% in a 500 bet streak) My script can make profits of 60/70% of current balance and withstand 100+ loosing strikes. Slowly but surely, I've been getting steady profits and IT WORKS on the long run, despite the house edge (and what other people say).

There is always a way to beat the house edge, its mathematical. Of course that using simple Martingale strategies and Labouchère on the long run you will ALWAYS loose. Even with high bank roll the math does not play in our favor.

I've taken few hours in making the math and fine-tuning the script but it has guaranteed results. Now I'm not trying to sell anything here with this post but also please don't ask to give the script for free since I lost about 1.5 BTC in fine-tuning it... Sad Investigate, loose money yourself - I'm the living proof that IT WORKS.

This post is just a testimony that house does not always win and IT IS possible to win while sleeping on the long run!

Seuntjie - you're a God. Congrats for the marvelous tool.
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not losing your bankroll in 24 hours proves nothing...earning 0.06BTC in one day, again proves nothing. At least, you are still 1,44 BTC under. After playing for some months let us know your results. Regarding your script, it would be very nice if you would share, at least, the purpose of it or your strategy. I don't mean sharing your entire perfect script, but if everybody would be like you, the bot will not exist, the LUA will not exist, and many free and open source stuff will not exist...and man, if seuntije says that the house always win, it's because he has the knowledge to say it Wink

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March 29, 2017, 01:36:13 AM
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The thing with the whole "House always wins" argument... is that people tend to look at it from their individual perspective...

It is perfectly within the bounds of mathematical reasoning and logic that an individual player can "beat" the house and walk away with a profit... (The odds of that happening tend towards zero the longer that individual plays.)

However, the house doesn't play 1v1... it plays 1vMany... and they rely on the majority losing more than the minority win... which is generally going to happen with the house edge and law of large numbers on their side...

congrats to the guy who made some money, just don't expect it to last forever... nor should others expect to be able to replicate the results.

Play for fun... and don't risk what you can't afford to lose. Wink

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Hi guys, congrats to us all for the wonderful forum.

Now first and foremost also like to thank Seuntjie for the WONDERFUL tool and programming language (already donated my friend Smiley ) that enable me to streak 200000 bets (more than 24 hours)  in a row without loosing my bankroll.

The trick has Seuntjie stated is to low bet with high bankroll. The marvelous part of Seuntjie's bot is that one can make a strategy based on prebetting and then fish for the long loosing strike.

I've programmed a version of one of Seuntjie's script that basically I can leave running for days and have a very low probability of loosing (about 0.84% in a 500 bet streak) My script can make profits of 60/70% of current balance and withstand 100+ loosing strikes. Slowly but surely, I've been getting steady profits and IT WORKS on the long run, despite the house edge (and what other people say).

There is always a way to beat the house edge, its mathematical. Of course that using simple Martingale strategies and Labouchère on the long run you will ALWAYS loose. Even with high bank roll the math does not play in our favor.

I've taken few hours in making the math and fine-tuning the script but it has guaranteed results. Now I'm not trying to sell anything here with this post but also please don't ask to give the script for free since I lost about 1.5 BTC in fine-tuning it... Sad Investigate, loose money yourself - I'm the living proof that IT WORKS.

This post is just a testimony that house does not always win and IT IS possible to win while sleeping on the long run!

Seuntjie - you're a God. Congrats for the marvelous tool.
http://i.imgur.com/zdKMrko.png


not losing your bankroll in 24 hours proves nothing...earning 0.06BTC in one day, again proves nothing. At least, you are still 1,44 BTC under. After playing for some months let us know your results. Regarding your script, it would be very nice if you would share, at least, the purpose of it or your strategy. I don't mean sharing your entire perfect script, but if everybody would be like you, the bot will not exist, the LUA will not exist, and many free and open source stuff will not exist...and man, if seuntije says that the house always win, it's because he has the knowledge to say it Wink

Sure man, it does not prove a thing, whatever you say. Wink  200000 strike bets in a row without loosing your bankroll is very straight forward to achieve. Some months? Do the math, I'm sure you missed something there Wink Regarding the script, I can tell you this - most of my game is on pre-betting. I play with probabilities. The bet value is not so important in the strategy, more important is to consider the loosing strikes (how many times you loose in a row). My prebet is always the minimum value even if I have 1 BTC. Then, there are variables in place with multipliers and betfactors. Having that in consideration and with you chance percentage, given an mathematical equation, you can predict how much you can multiply your betting and where should this multiplication start on the loosing strike. Its just a matter of adjusting these values so that your bankroll can withstand such vertical loss and still have enough balance to make that one bet that spikes you again to the top. Period.

Yes, I'm 1.44 BTC under and this is because I can afford to loose such values.

Now if everyone were like me, the world would surely be a better place. Don't get me wrong, but it's actually presumptuous from your part to make such affirmations - you don't know me or even what I do. But without going any further I'm pretty comfortable with my contributions and my actions towards this world. I actually contribute FIRMLY to the open source scenario with my skills in ways you can only imagine. More than likely you are already using some software or code I helped creating. I could refer some names but then again I would be consider doubtful and unbelievable. I rather prefer to stay anonymous and be "the bad guy" that does not help others as you easily painted me. My actions and the company I work for as well as my work speaks for itself. Enough said.

The reason why I'm not sharing is simple - your skills will be greater if you can achieve this by yourself. I just gave my word, my testimony so that people continue to search, investigate, learn and get better.

Finally, yes, Seuntjie is very good in programming and he's surely skilled on other crafts, the software is utterly unbelievable. I was starting to program a bot to myself just for fun when I knew this guy and his software. But I'm a guy from science I don't take word from anyone besides facts themselves. You should read my answer to Seuntjie's kind post. You don't need to be a scientist or mathematician to ask yourself why and how some people in this world have beaten the so called house edge without cheating. It only takes one to say - the house does not always win.

My 2 cents.

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March 29, 2017, 07:17:47 AM
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I myself shared a script, a modification of a previous script, that's prebetting all the times you want at the chance you want and others have shared them. You are playing a martingale with a certain amount  of prebetting and multipliying and at some point if you don't achieve the earnings, you just start over. That's fine, when you are 1.5 btc up just share your screenshot again.
Maybe when you are 1000000 btc up you might want to share your script with the rest of the world from your private island Wink And again, if you are in the opensource community still makes less sense to me that you do not want to share anything so the rest of the people can learn by themselves.


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I myself shared a script, a modification of a previous script, that's prebetting all the times you want at the chance you want and others have shared them. You are playing a martingale with a certain amount  of prebetting and multipliying and at some point if you don't achieve the earnings, you just start over. That's fine, when you are 1.5 btc up just share your screenshot again.
Maybe when you are 1000000 btc up you might want to share your script with the rest of the world from your private island Wink And again, if you are in the opensource community still makes less sense to me that you do not want to share anything so the rest of the people can learn by themselves.



So take that script and use it bro. I'm sure it won't be far from mine Smiley My private island is precisly that. Private. No sharing allowed, since I do that in the main land Wink

Well its better to make less sense than no sense! I guess you have different POV about this issue.
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March 29, 2017, 08:30:31 AM
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The thing with the whole "House always wins" argument... is that people tend to look at it from their individual perspective...

It is perfectly within the bounds of mathematical reasoning and logic that an individual player can "beat" the house and walk away with a profit... (The odds of that happening tend towards zero the longer that individual plays.)

However, the house doesn't play 1v1... it plays 1vMany... and they rely on the majority losing more than the minority win... which is generally going to happen with the house edge and law of large numbers on their side...

congrats to the guy who made some money, just don't expect it to last forever... nor should others expect to be able to replicate the results.

Play for fun... and don't risk what you can't afford to lose. Wink

Wise words and clearly someone who knows its facts. Thanks for the input.
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hi,

i need a code for:

when i win change bethigh to true if previously is false and if bethigh are true set to false

anyone help me?

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March 29, 2017, 08:03:03 PM
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I myself shared a script, a modification of a previous script, that's prebetting all the times you want at the chance you want and others have shared them. You are playing a martingale with a certain amount  of prebetting and multipliying and at some point if you don't achieve the earnings, you just start over. That's fine, when you are 1.5 btc up just share your screenshot again.
Maybe when you are 1000000 btc up you might want to share your script with the rest of the world from your private island Wink And again, if you are in the opensource community still makes less sense to me that you do not want to share anything so the rest of the people can learn by themselves.



So take that script and use it bro. I'm sure it won't be far from mine Smiley My private island is precisly that. Private. No sharing allowed, since I do that in the main land Wink

Well its better to make less sense than no sense! I guess you have different POV about this issue.

Yes i think we definitively have a different POV about that Wink Nevertheless, I respect your position and I hope you can make a huge profit with the script. It will be nice if you can share your chart in a while thought. Here you have mine in the month of march:


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