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August 21, 2025, 09:50:05 PM
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For mere there are many GOAT in NBA in different ERA, unless Jordan vs LBJ vs KOBE play ball at the same time on their primes.


There can’t be more than one GOAT, the term itself means “greatest of all time.” Right now I believe the GOAT in the NBA is Michael Jordan. If another one comes in the future, that means Jordan is replaced, not that there’s suddenly two GOATs.

Yeah basing from the title itself, though there are different opinions about it and we as individual we can keep what we believe, as same with you, for me  personally I still believe that Jordan still remain as the Goat of this sport like you mentioned if there's a new one then the title will be handover to such athlete but so far there's none as per my opinion.

We have our own opinions are basketball fans, even MJ himself said that he respects the greatest basketball player before him. Unlike Lebron though who says if I'm not mistaken that he is better specially the feat that he come back from a 1-3 deficit against the Warriors and won in the finals.

But in any case, this is going to be a ongoing debate, even those so called analyst and players have disagree at some point as who is the GOAT. Those who have seen the era of MJ tells it's him, while for those who have followed Lebron or watch him play argues that he is the GOAT.
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August 21, 2025, 10:59:16 PM
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I started to hate Draymond with his actions against Poole.

And with all of these comments from other NBA players about how they play, he should just keep his mouth shut.

Maybe that's why he's never get traded and the Warriors are keeping him and not just about how physical he plays but also as an attack dog.
Well Draymond is Draymond, They are the NBA favorite they let GSW have their on way multiple times for the span of years, the moving screen, the fouls that is out of this world the refs, they all get away with it, they protected curry, but every players has to be traded when the time they no longer needed dray he will be traded for sure, they are just waiting for someone to offer for dray, and they will let them go, Poole should been a great second scorer they just like dray better.
That time might come to him that he gets traded and he'll know about that.

And I think that he's near to retirement if that happens or if not, before he gets traded, he'll retire.

We don't know but he's not a likeable player but good thing that he's got some good teammates that brought him some chips.

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August 21, 2025, 11:59:53 PM
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With desire and dedication, the Warriors can beat any team in the NBA, but if that happens, Green's contribution will be minimal. Honestly, looking at his statistics over the past few years, I don't understand why the Warriors' management signed him to a $100 million contract.
They did that during their last championship, but perhaps they are still solid that time, with Jordan Poole and Klay Thompson and the rest of the team jiving to give them their last ring. But after that, totally different Warriors team. Maybe last season they almost pulled it off again, but Steph got injured and there's no way that they are going to win their series against the Timberwolves. And with that, another year is added to this aging veterans and there are news that Al Holford will be joining them for the upcoming season. So it might be very hard for them to repeat. Maybe they can go in the playoff, but it could be the same as they could be eliminated again in the first or second round.
Warriors are way too old right now to win, and Klay is gone too. That is why they are not going to win anymore. Not because Klay is gone, because if Klay was still there, they still wouldn't win, they are just too old. Hell Draymond had grey beard for a while now. So believe me, no matter how good Curry is, he isn't going to be enough to actually mean anything at all.

Because even Curry isn't enough to carry a whole team by himself, and they do not have any great players to cover the difference, the other 4 will not be great. Warriors are now a team that is constantly going to get worse, until they retire Curry.

It would be very wild deal if Curry leaves, he is the legend of Golden State, so he will probably retire there, and until he does, they won't have a great team again. Probably not many years after he retires too.

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August 22, 2025, 02:23:44 AM
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With desire and dedication, the Warriors can beat any team in the NBA, but if that happens, Green's contribution will be minimal. Honestly, looking at his statistics over the past few years, I don't understand why the Warriors' management signed him to a $100 million contract.
They did that during their last championship, but perhaps they are still solid that time, with Jordan Poole and Klay Thompson and the rest of the team jiving to give them their last ring. But after that, totally different Warriors team. Maybe last season they almost pulled it off again, but Steph got injured and there's no way that they are going to win their series against the Timberwolves. And with that, another year is added to this aging veterans and there are news that Al Holford will be joining them for the upcoming season. So it might be very hard for them to repeat. Maybe they can go in the playoff, but it could be the same as they could be eliminated again in the first or second round.
Warriors are way too old right now to win, and Klay is gone too. That is why they are not going to win anymore. Not because Klay is gone, because if Klay was still there, they still wouldn't win, they are just too old. Hell Draymond had grey beard for a while now. So believe me, no matter how good Curry is, he isn't going to be enough to actually mean anything at all.

Because even Curry isn't enough to carry a whole team by himself, and they do not have any great players to cover the difference, the other 4 will not be great. Warriors are now a team that is constantly going to get worse, until they retire Curry.

It would be very wild deal if Curry leaves, he is the legend of Golden State, so he will probably retire there, and until he does, they won't have a great team again. Probably not many years after he retires too.
Being old is one thing, but seems like the strategy does not fit the players, kerr still using the strategy 5-6 years ago, if he would not change it will not work, for sure other teams , already study that, keeping it without any changes is like digging your own grave, beside, there is no klay or iggy and the backup players before that know how to play those strategies, kerr is great but sticking to small ball is already an old move, he needs to combine it with other strategy.

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August 22, 2025, 02:37:53 AM
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With desire and dedication, the Warriors can beat any team in the NBA, but if that happens, Green's contribution will be minimal. Honestly, looking at his statistics over the past few years, I don't understand why the Warriors' management signed him to a $100 million contract.
They did that during their last championship, but perhaps they are still solid that time, with Jordan Poole and Klay Thompson and the rest of the team jiving to give them their last ring. But after that, totally different Warriors team. Maybe last season they almost pulled it off again, but Steph got injured and there's no way that they are going to win their series against the Timberwolves. And with that, another year is added to this aging veterans and there are news that Al Holford will be joining them for the upcoming season. So it might be very hard for them to repeat. Maybe they can go in the playoff, but it could be the same as they could be eliminated again in the first or second round.
Warriors are way too old right now to win, and Klay is gone too. That is why they are not going to win anymore. Not because Klay is gone, because if Klay was still there, they still wouldn't win, they are just too old. Hell Draymond had grey beard for a while now. So believe me, no matter how good Curry is, he isn't going to be enough to actually mean anything at all.

Because even Curry isn't enough to carry a whole team by himself, and they do not have any great players to cover the difference, the other 4 will not be great. Warriors are now a team that is constantly going to get worse, until they retire Curry.

It would be very wild deal if Curry leaves, he is the legend of Golden State, so he will probably retire there, and until he does, they won't have a great team again. Probably not many years after he retires too.
Being old is one thing, but seems like the strategy does not fit the players, kerr still using the strategy 5-6 years ago, if he would not change it will not work, for sure other teams , already study that, keeping it without any changes is like digging your own grave, beside, there is no klay or iggy and the backup players before that know how to play those strategies, kerr is great but sticking to small ball is already an old move, he needs to combine it with other strategy.
I look for the Warriors to be near the bottom of the west this year. Draymond is a dinosaur, Steph is getting up there as well, and it just doesn't feel like the vibe is there anymore. Kerr is a great coach but without some good youngblood in the lineup to take some of the workload off the vets, they're going nowhere.

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August 22, 2025, 02:47:33 AM
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I look for the Warriors to be near the bottom of the west this year. Draymond is a dinosaur, Steph is getting up there as well, and it just doesn't feel like the vibe is there anymore. Kerr is a great coach but without some good youngblood in the lineup to take some of the workload off the vets, they're going nowhere.
Yeah, me too.

I don't actually feel the same energy anymore. Steph is getting old, and there's a chance injuries will happen again. They got Butler, but I am not really a fan of that dude. I know he is a playoff-caliber player, but when it comes to the Finals, he always chokes, and I am also not impressed with Buddy Hield. For my prediction, I am thinking they will be in the play-in tournament again, trying to get a playoff spot.

You are right, they need some young players who will step up their game. Maybe it's time to pass the baton. Sad, but true. They had their fun with lots of championships.

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August 22, 2025, 03:20:54 AM
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Yeah, me too.

I don't actually feel the same energy anymore. Steph is getting old, and there's a chance injuries will happen again. They got Butler, but I am not really a fan of that dude. I know he is a playoff-caliber player, but when it comes to the Finals, he always chokes, and I am also not impressed with Buddy Hield. For my prediction, I am thinking they will be in the play-in tournament again, trying to get a playoff spot.

You are right, they need some young players who will step up their game. Maybe it's time to pass the baton. Sad, but true. They had their fun with lots of championships.

Hmm, I have to disagree about Jimmy, his is not a finals choker for sure, I mean his stats are very solid I would say.



But yeah, the GSW are getting old and kind of boring, that's no secret. They constantly miss out on getting the next star player on board and then settled for Jimmy, whoc of course is solid but looking at his age he is definitely not the guy to carry them into the next chapter.
But what can they do? Rebuild? I mean they have all their own draft picks and if they get rid of some players they can collect some more picks for sure. The problem is, I doubt they want to spend the finals years of Curry's reign in the bay rebuilding.


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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.

Westbrook is way past of his prime. I'd take Malik Monk over him, as he's a spot-up shooter and can create his own shots too. The only thing I can remember about Westbrook is his explosiveness; other than that, nothing else.
I also don't think he'll make any impact on the team at this point of his career. He's on the verge of retirement to be honest.

Monk is pretty explosive too. It seems like an odd switch but maybe Westbrook is cheaper? He’s definitely more well known so I guess it makes sense as a business decision. Westbrook would also be a good guy to have in the locker room. When the game is on the line though, I’d put the ball in Monk’s hands every single time.

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August 22, 2025, 07:21:27 AM
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But yeah, the GSW are getting old and kind of boring, that's no secret. They constantly miss out on getting the next star player on board and then settled for Jimmy, whoc of course is solid but looking at his age he is definitely not the guy to carry them into the next chapter.
But what can they do? Rebuild? I mean they have all their own draft picks and if they get rid of some players they can collect some more picks for sure. The problem is, I doubt they want to spend the finals years of Curry's reign in the bay rebuilding.

Yes, until Curry retires, the Warriors' management is unlikely to rebuild the team. But sooner or later, they will have to rebuild, bringing in some new young players. Then the Warriors will probably be underdogs for a few years, as was the case with the Rockets.

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Yeah, me too.

I don't actually feel the same energy anymore. Steph is getting old, and there's a chance injuries will happen again. They got Butler, but I am not really a fan of that dude. I know he is a playoff-caliber player, but when it comes to the Finals, he always chokes, and I am also not impressed with Buddy Hield. For my prediction, I am thinking they will be in the play-in tournament again, trying to get a playoff spot.

You are right, they need some young players who will step up their game. Maybe it's time to pass the baton. Sad, but true. They had their fun with lots of championships.

Hmm, I have to disagree about Jimmy, his is not a finals choker for sure, I mean his stats are very solid I would say.



But yeah, the GSW are getting old and kind of boring, that's no secret. They constantly miss out on getting the next star player on board and then settled for Jimmy, whoc of course is solid but looking at his age he is definitely not the guy to carry them into the next chapter.
But what can they do? Rebuild? I mean they have all their own draft picks and if they get rid of some players they can collect some more picks for sure. The problem is, I doubt they want to spend the finals years of Curry's reign in the bay rebuilding.


I most say that currently the Golden state warriors are indeed facing a critical juncture, with their cores players aging and potentially entering the twilight of their careers, Stephen curry's contacts and legacy are significant factors in their decisions making process, which considering their current roster and draft picks, i think worries are having there only draft picks, which be leveraged to acquire new talent, trading some of their current players could yield additional picks, allowing them to rebuild or reload with young players.

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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.
Why would they even do that? Westbrook is no longer consistent while Malik Monk has already proven himself even when he was listed as a 2nd unit. I remember some games where Monk carried the team to victory, he’s clutch. Once he’s back healthy again he’ll be a big help for the team.

But what’s happening with the Kings now? It feels like they’re just stacking up big names but still struggling.
Kinda looks like they’re turning into the old Bulls.  Sad

 
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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.

Westbrook is way past of his prime. I'd take Malik Monk over him, as he's a spot-up shooter and can create his own shots too. The only thing I can remember about Westbrook is his explosiveness; other than that, nothing else.
I also don't think he'll make any impact on the team at this point of his career. He's on the verge of retirement to be honest.

Monk is pretty explosive too. It seems like an odd switch but maybe Westbrook is cheaper? He’s definitely more well known so I guess it makes sense as a business decision. Westbrook would also be a good guy to have in the locker room. When the game is on the line though, I’d put the ball in Monk’s hands every single time.

Definitely Westbrook is cheap that Monk, and it's obvious that when they traded Fox, it's the end of the Kings core, so I'm not surprised that they are shopping Malik Monk and even if he is young and explosive, it doesn't matter for the Kings. They want to start fresh and rebuilding.

Although it might not include Westbrook in the rebuilding, but they still have DeRozan And Zach Lavine to lead them. And maybe just insert Westbrook from time to time to ignite the team as we all know that Westbrook is animated when he is on the floor. I think that's what Sacramento needed, trash talking there way against any opponent and not be too soft.

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August 22, 2025, 08:59:44 AM
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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.
Why would they even do that? Westbrook is no longer consistent while Malik Monk has already proven himself even when he was listed as a 2nd unit. I remember some games where Monk carried the team to victory, he’s clutch. Once he’s back healthy again he’ll be a big help for the team.

But what’s happening with the Kings now? It feels like they’re just stacking up big names but still struggling.
Kinda looks like they’re turning into the old Bulls.  Sad

Exactly, Kings is kinda collecting those old all star for the sake of hype to look like they are stacked with star player.

Russ is still good as bench player due to his hustle play that can encourage their teammates to play more effort but I doubt he is more valuable or even worthy to be trade to Malik Monk that is contributing well for the Kings.

Tbh their change of focus from Fox to DeRozan is crazy considering DeRozan has on and off games most of the time.

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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.
Why would they even do that? Westbrook is no longer consistent while Malik Monk has already proven himself even when he was listed as a 2nd unit. I remember some games where Monk carried the team to victory, he’s clutch. Once he’s back healthy again he’ll be a big help for the team.

But what’s happening with the Kings now? It feels like they’re just stacking up big names but still struggling.
Kinda looks like they’re turning into the old Bulls.  Sad

It's going to be a tough road for this team, if they'll manage to send Monk away, after sending Fox to Spurs instead of keeping younger stars, with Lavine and DeRozan then adding WB, not sure if what will happen to this team, though still need to see them playing together and how the coaches will help to make them competitive as possible but personally they be better to risk getting a younger star and developed him as their main key for their future.

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August 22, 2025, 10:13:37 AM
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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.

This is Malik Monk stats on 2024 - 2025 season.

17.2 pts ppg
5.6 apg
3.5 rpg
then played 65 games.

While Westbrook stats last season.

13.3 pts ppg
6.1 apg
4.9 rpg
then played 75 games

Both stats is solid numbers and we can say that they are somehow equal in stats. So provably that Kings is not losing when they trade Monk to other team since they have solid veteran all star replacement in presence of Westbrook.

But I also think their current roster is not enough to win a championship. Maybe they need to trade and get more solid players on their team.

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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.
Why would they even do that? Westbrook is no longer consistent while Malik Monk has already proven himself even when he was listed as a 2nd unit. I remember some games where Monk carried the team to victory, he’s clutch. Once he’s back healthy again he’ll be a big help for the team.

But what’s happening with the Kings now? It feels like they’re just stacking up big names but still struggling.
Kinda looks like they’re turning into the old Bulls.  Sad

It's going to be a tough road for this team, if they'll manage to send Monk away, after sending Fox to Spurs instead of keeping younger stars, with Lavine and DeRozan then adding WB, not sure if what will happen to this team, though still need to see them playing together and how the coaches will help to make them competitive as possible but personally they be better to risk getting a younger star and developed him as their main key for their future.

That is the thing though, they already have 2 superstars in Lavine and DeRozan, and that is why they are more willing to trade Monk, even at getting a old WB to help the team. It was really a surprised when they acquire Lavine from the Bulls to partner again with DeRozan, but I think two different franchise, so two different outcome as well. And it's really hard to see if Monk will be traded, but then again, when they send Fox away, it was sure a sign that they are moving into a new direction as Fox, Monk, Sabonis has a good chemistry but it's very though for them to go even in the second round because a lot of great teams that they have face in the West like the Warriors. So now they are uplifting the team and again, willing to trade Malik Monk.

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https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1958865527230603398

Good news for Malik, and this could mean that he could still go back and play in the NBA. However, it looks like Detroit is no longer interested on his services. But still, I think there could be many teams that might have to get his service.

So let's see, plenty of time before the opening of a new season and any teams can absorb him right away.

 
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NBACentral is reporting that the Sacramento Kings are trying everything they can to trade Malik Monk to make room for Russell Westbrook on the roster. While I like the idea of Russ on the Kings, I’m not sure at this point in his career that he’s better than Malik Monk. Hopefully Sacramento isn’t adding to their long list of mistakes with this one.
Why would they even do that? Westbrook is no longer consistent while Malik Monk has already proven himself even when he was listed as a 2nd unit. I remember some games where Monk carried the team to victory, he’s clutch. Once he’s back healthy again he’ll be a big help for the team.

But what’s happening with the Kings now? It feels like they’re just stacking up big names but still struggling.
Kinda looks like they’re turning into the old Bulls.  Sad

Changing anything about the team for Westbrook doesn't make much sense to me. He's too old and not playing consistently anymore, and he shouldn't be the team's star player. It's truly incomprehensible why they're even bothering to make this trade.

If they want to be successful, they need to focus on young and talented players. It's very difficult to achieve success in the NBA within two seasons; they need to think of it as a long-term investment and develop a strategy accordingly Smiley

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August 22, 2025, 03:18:05 PM
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https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1958865527230603398

Good news for Malik, and this could mean that he could still go back and play in the NBA. However, it looks like Detroit is no longer interested on his services. But still, I think there could be many teams that might have to get his service.

So let's see, plenty of time before the opening of a new season and any teams can absorb him right away.
Good for him for having that clearance to continue his career in the NBA. Because not all of those who have been involved with gambling and likely selling of games were able to come back. I remember Jontay Porter, the brother of MPJ, that has been caught and banned from the NBA after being proven guilty. While there might still some teams that are willing to take him on board. But I think that they're not willing to commit such high contract of him any longer. Maybe a year contract is likely but at a lower amount, maybe that's it. And it's a take it or leave it deal.


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It's going to be a tough road for this team, if they'll manage to send Monk away, after sending Fox to Spurs instead of keeping younger stars, with Lavine and DeRozan then adding WB, not sure if what will happen to this team, though still need to see them playing together and how the coaches will help to make them competitive as possible but personally they be better to risk getting a younger star and developed him as their main key for their future.
They are making a mistake. Losing all those young players is a wrong move and they shouldn't have done that. It is smart decision to make sure that they end up with younger players because the players they have right now are already "has been" level players.

They are going to end up with a lot of old players who will not do that great for them. Of course they are named players and of course they may end up selling more tickets that way because they would have marketing more than other teams, because of the names they have. But that doesn't mean we are going to see them win, they are not going to. They are tanking obviously, sending all these young players away, and getting veterans means they are going to not sign back, and have clear space, bad results, and high draft pick.

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