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March 12, 2016, 09:33:08 PM |
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They don't need to buy out any ETH fuel and would likely not take that course ever as that wouldn't leverage any control. They don't need to be a customer buying overpriced cpu cycles , they want to make money selling other fools overpriced cpu cycles by controlling the tech with IP control. Any potential Buyout would be of the Ethereum Foundation or the developers therein. In such a case even this is unlikely because they need to set a legal precedent that they control the patents and technology to smother ethereum clones that exist now and future ones... So instead of the honey going to Vitalk and other owners of the Ethereum Foundation(not you or other investors) , expect the stick...
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March 12, 2016, 09:44:53 PM |
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March 12, 2016, 09:59:02 PM |
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It is silly to assume that you or I have any influence upon the price by our insignificant posts on an obscure forum. I'm not trying to influence the direction of the price, because in the end investors are going to buy and sell regardless, but just to educate others and potentially warn developers ... but I'm sure they have already been reasonably compensated if things go bad. If you are aware of the risks and still buy than you are at least an aware investor willing to make the tradeoff of risk /reward.
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March 12, 2016, 10:16:05 PM |
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I have huge amount of respect for toknormal so do heed his advice.
The smart thing to do as an Ether investor is to be always ready to bail. If you are hoping for 100-200 then you need to assess where the money comes from to justify that price. Does it...just come? If so, from where? Does the technology justify the inherent value and if so why? If the latter, fine, don't try to convince speculators and hold. You don't need to discuss it. If you are the former listen, because you may be wrong (you may be right too).
I hold Ether because as far as alts go this has the strongest case for doing well price wise. Will I bail on a massive dump. Yes, but not until it hits an insanely low floor. Why? I invested what I can afford to lose. Simply as.
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March 12, 2016, 10:16:17 PM |
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It is silly to assume that you or I have any influence upon the price by our insignificant posts on an obscure forum. I'm not trying to influence the direction of the price, because in the end investors are going to buy and sell regardless, but just to educate others and potentially warn developers...
Chill out man! I'm teasing you. Of course we are all aware of the risks. Besides I'm not trading anymore but just waiting the right moment to sell off my pre-sale ETHER Still have a lot to get rid off and then I will retire for ever I was once the CEO of CCV.IO (Crypto Currency Venture) and I enjoyed to the full those amazing rides BTC, LTC, XRP & STR gave use back in 2013-2014... Good old times. My last ride is with ETH and then I'm done. What's about you?
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March 12, 2016, 10:20:54 PM |
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It is silly to assume that you or I have any influence upon the price by our insignificant posts on an obscure forum. I'm not trying to influence the direction of the price, because in the end investors are going to buy and sell regardless, but just to educate others and potentially warn developers...
Chill out man! I'm teasing you. Of course we are all aware of the risks. Besides I'm not trading anymore but just waiting the right moment to sell off my pre-sale ETHER Still have a lot to get rid off and then I will retire for ever I was once the CEO of CCV.IO (Crypto Currency Venture) and I enjoyed to the full those amazing rides BTC, LTC, XRP & STR gave use back in 2013-2014... Good old times. My last ride is with ETH and then I'm done. What's about you? I'm not so interested in pumping coins or making money off ipo's... my focus more is with the tech and its applications , but the statement above places your comments in context . If you want to discuss the tech and security concerns let me know.
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March 12, 2016, 10:27:17 PM |
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If you want to discuss the tech and security concerns let me know.
Thanks mate! Was fun though. All the best for now
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March 13, 2016, 12:32:09 AM |
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Like bitcoin carpenteer said, just stop this madness. ETH is at it's high now. It's been pumped big time. The only logical thing to do is that he price will be dumped to the ground. And newcomers will lose money.
If you considered this well then you are too late.
Oh this bitch is a bubble alright, but at its high right now? Looks like it's about to break out higher tbh...
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March 13, 2016, 01:00:34 AM |
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Waiting for a pullback in ETH. It is 5x the supply of Bitcoin already, so the natural short-term limit is about 0.2BTC. There will be ups and downs before it gets there, if ever. I have seen hundreds of scamcoins come and go but always knew that at some point Bitcoin will have a competitor that is driving innovation more inventively, just as companies like Google and Amazon did in their sectors. I do like the look of this one, but it's early days, be careful.
If it is a pump&dump it is one of the most elaborate in the history of mankind, as there seem to be a huge amount of startups working on top of it. But it does seem overbought. Easy in.
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March 13, 2016, 07:28:31 PM |
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It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
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March 13, 2016, 07:31:58 PM |
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It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
Put all BTC in ETH. It's game changer.
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March 13, 2016, 08:31:13 PM |
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Waiting for a pullback in ETH. It is 5x the supply of Bitcoin already, so the natural short-term limit is about 0.2BTC. There will be ups and downs before it gets there, if ever. I have seen hundreds of scamcoins come and go but always knew that at some point Bitcoin will have a competitor that is driving innovation more inventively, just as companies like Google and Amazon did in their sectors. I do like the look of this one, but it's early days, be careful.
If it is a pump&dump it is one of the most elaborate in the history of mankind, as there seem to be a huge amount of startups working on top of it. But it does seem overbought. Easy in.
There is no limit of the relationship between the Bitcoin and the Ethereum. For example, the ratio between the litecoin and bitcoin is not 0.25.
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March 13, 2016, 08:36:01 PM |
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It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
Put all BTC in ETH. It's game changer. When the block size issue is resolved in bitcoin, the bitcoin price will rise again. At the moment, there is too much concern about the unity of the bitcoin community.
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March 13, 2016, 08:51:25 PM |
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It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
Put all BTC in ETH. It's game changer. When the block size issue is resolved in bitcoin, the bitcoin price will rise again. At the moment, there is too much concern about the unity of the bitcoin community. Dude, that won't happen overnight, it may never happen...but one thing is for sure, Coinbase, Circle, Xapo and other exchanges are companies that are getting frustrated, that's a fact, so they are at war. And they are in the business of making money, not some fatso anarcho idealist bullshit. They sure don't like missing all the ETH action and if ETH continues its uprising for another month I think it's only a matter of time many announcements and deals will be made. Now, like I said many times in this thread, I'm not a complete ETH fanboy, I know there is a lot of risk of ETH having a sharp drop in the near future (not sure from where though...) and since I've went almost all in in 90s mark I sort of safe to at least get my money back with some profit. But at the same time, I also think there's a slight chance the real bubble starts in the next weeks when it hits mainstream news and bitcoiners start to move more and more to ETH... Nothing as big happened in crypto since Bitcoin bubble in my opinion, LTC was a joke compared to this. So even if ETH doesn't quite make it or loose steam, it will be a wonderful lesson for all of us and even a great lesson to BTC devs to get their shit together once and for all. Not that they can fix BTC as a payment system, it's completely unusable and worthless if they are still trying people to adopt it...
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March 13, 2016, 09:16:50 PM |
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It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
Put all BTC in ETH. It's game changer. When the block size issue is resolved in bitcoin, the bitcoin price will rise again. At the moment, there is too much concern about the unity of the bitcoin community. Dude, that won't happen overnight, it may never happen...but one thing is for sure, Coinbase, Circle, Xapo and other exchanges are companies that are getting frustrated, that's a fact, so they are at war. And they are in the business of making money, not some fatso anarcho idealist bullshit. They sure don't like missing all the ETH action and if ETH continues its uprising for another month I think it's only a matter of time many announcements and deals will be made. Now, like I said many times in this thread, I'm not a complete ETH fanboy, I know there is a lot of risk of ETH having a sharp drop in the near future (not sure from where though...) and since I've went almost all in in 90s mark I sort of safe to at least get my money back with some profit. But at the same time, I also think there's a slight chance the real bubble starts in the next weeks when it hits mainstream news and bitcoiners start to move more and more to ETH... Nothing as big happened in crypto since Bitcoin bubble in my opinion, LTC was a joke compared to this. So even if ETH doesn't quite make it or loose steam, it will be a wonderful lesson for all of us and even a great lesson to BTC devs to get their shit together once and for all. Not that they can fix BTC as a payment system, it's completely unusable and worthless if they are still trying people to adopt it... what happens if Vitalik gets ill? or kidnapped god forbid? then there is the crazy proof of stake experiment in a year ... ether is huge pump and dump to crypto world but it is just toy for Morgan Stanley who have $4.5 trillion under wealth management. You guys are on your own doing the best puppet dance for your new masters than they could ever command you to do ...
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March 13, 2016, 09:21:12 PM |
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Vitalik is not the only dev on ethereum. There are over 70. Vitalik has created the idea and whitepaper already. It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
Put all BTC in ETH. It's game changer. When the block size issue is resolved in bitcoin, the bitcoin price will rise again. At the moment, there is too much concern about the unity of the bitcoin community. Dude, that won't happen overnight, it may never happen...but one thing is for sure, Coinbase, Circle, Xapo and other exchanges are companies that are getting frustrated, that's a fact, so they are at war. And they are in the business of making money, not some fatso anarcho idealist bullshit. They sure don't like missing all the ETH action and if ETH continues its uprising for another month I think it's only a matter of time many announcements and deals will be made. Now, like I said many times in this thread, I'm not a complete ETH fanboy, I know there is a lot of risk of ETH having a sharp drop in the near future (not sure from where though...) and since I've went almost all in in 90s mark I sort of safe to at least get my money back with some profit. But at the same time, I also think there's a slight chance the real bubble starts in the next weeks when it hits mainstream news and bitcoiners start to move more and more to ETH... Nothing as big happened in crypto since Bitcoin bubble in my opinion, LTC was a joke compared to this. So even if ETH doesn't quite make it or loose steam, it will be a wonderful lesson for all of us and even a great lesson to BTC devs to get their shit together once and for all. Not that they can fix BTC as a payment system, it's completely unusable and worthless if they are still trying people to adopt it... what happens if Vitalik gets ill? or kidnapped god forbid? then there is the crazy proof of stake experiment in a year ... ether is huge pump and dump to crypto world but it is just toy for Morgan Stanley who have $4.5 trillion under wealth management. You guys are on your own doing the best puppet dance for your new masters than they could ever command you to do ...
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March 13, 2016, 09:21:54 PM |
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It might be a bubble but 1 billion marketcap and still growing can't really be a p&d. It's time for Bitcoiners to acknowledge there's a new kid in town. Just check what Ted Rogers, president of Xapo is saying on Twitter:
"blocksize restriction by Core & centralization of dev in 1 company has made #bitcoin the slow incumbent & #ethereum the agile disruptor"
Put all BTC in ETH. It's game changer. It seems there is very strong buying support of Ethereum. It is about $14 now. The price is rising fast. I regret that I have sold most of my Ethereum.
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March 13, 2016, 09:26:56 PM |
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but one thing is for sure, Coinbase, Circle, Xapo and other exchanges are companies that are getting frustrated, that's a fact, so they are at war. And they are in the business of making money, not some fatso anarcho idealist bullshit.
The way I see it is they want control over the flow of money, it's a power grab. They want to be the "new banking elite" which is contrary to what bitcoin is. Coinbase CEO wanted to blacklist some coins from ever being spendable, for example. They are dangerous and they are the very problem in the current banking industry that caused a need for something better.
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March 13, 2016, 09:27:19 PM |
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Vitalik is not the only dev on ethereum. There are over 70. Vitalik has created the idea and whitepaper already.
yeah but the market wont care about that, it is all based on FUD, hype and perception. Mike Hearn wasn't even a real core developer and his tantrum dropped bitcoin 20%. If Vitalik disappears ethereum would crash, there's way too much hype centralising it around one poor kid who's way out of his depth ... it's kind of sad how they are exploiting him.
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March 13, 2016, 10:12:39 PM |
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Vitalik is not the only dev on ethereum. There are over 70. Vitalik has created the idea and whitepaper already.
yeah but the market wont care about that, it is all based on FUD, hype and perception. Mike Hearn wasn't even a real core developer and his tantrum dropped bitcoin 20%. If Vitalik disappears ethereum would crash, there's way too much hype centralising it around one poor kid who's way out of his depth ... it's kind of sad how they are exploiting him. What's sad is to watch "Bitcoiners" running for the lifes and trying to invent the most ridiculous FUD ever. Vitalik kidnapped? You don't even know who Satoshi is but you trust some unknown "core" developers and chinese miners and call that a decentralized utopia, lol. Look man, Bitcoin doesn't even have to die because it has proven itself a good way to store wealth, like digital gold. As a payment system it's a complete joke that will never be adopted by anyone, either common persons or serious companies. It had its time and now it's really agonizing. Ethereum is not here to replace Bitcoin actually, because Bitcoin doesn't even have its own position secured, what's the use of it? Nothing. It was a unique and disruptive original idea that gave us the blockchain, the "currency" itself is a complete failure unless it's used as speculation tool (that's perfectly fine for me though...but many are still trying to make Bitcoin "happen", they think they could actually get a woman to use it for example...).
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