[$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][TOR/i2P][no premine/ico!]

[kaigeta]

So... RadioCrypto milestone not happening, canceled, or what? I know it's not a huge deal, but i was curious to see what the "include in core wallets" would end up looking like.

Also i noticed in an interview that the merchandise store was supposed to only accept XVG. Did the community vote to have it also accept BTC? I thought accepting only XVG was a great idea.

radiocrypto is up. and it is in the core wallets on the github already, and will be in the next core release.

yes, the merch store is already being built, and will only accept xvg.

Nice. RadioCrypto website looks solid. Glad to hear it'll be XVG only. The Road Map currently says it will accept XVG and BTC, hence my confusion. Thanks for clearing that up.

glad you like it. we're still posting content to the radiocrypto.com site, but tonight's first show will be on at 8pm PST / 11pm EST (CoinMetal with Frank Dashwood)

Just want to say man. Your (+ the community's) commitment, principle, and vision for this coin are the reason I bought it. Been following silently since Doge and i'm incredibly impressed at what has been built here. If absolutely nothing else, this is an awesome experiment to see if the crypto market values a shiny brand over the real thing. It's an experiement i'm happy to be on the losing side of (sorta?), if we're wrong.

Also take fucking http://vergecurrency.com/radio/ down, or redirect, if cryptoradio is the new jazz!

[Dogedarkdev]

So... RadioCrypto milestone not happening, canceled, or what? I know it's not a huge deal, but i was curious to see what the "include in core wallets" would end up looking like.

Also i noticed in an interview that the merchandise store was supposed to only accept XVG. Did the community vote to have it also accept BTC? I thought accepting only XVG was a great idea.

radiocrypto is up. and it is in the core wallets on the github already, and will be in the next core release.

yes, the merch store is already being built, and will only accept xvg.

Nice. RadioCrypto website looks solid. Glad to hear it'll be XVG only. The Road Map currently says it will accept XVG and BTC, hence my confusion. Thanks for clearing that up.

glad you like it. we're still posting content to the radiocrypto.com site, but tonight's first show will be on at 8pm PST / 11pm EST (CoinMetal with Frank Dashwood)

Just want to say man. Your (+ the community's) commitment, principle, and vision for this coin are the reason I bought it. Been following silently since Doge and i'm incredibly impressed at what has been built here. If absolutely nothing else, this is an awesome experiment to see if the crypto market values a shiny brand over the real thing. It's an experiement i'm happy to be on the losing side of (sorta?), if we're wrong.

Also take fucking http://vergecurrency.com/radio/ down, or redirect, if cryptoradio is the new jazz!

lol thanks! it is rather fun, isnt it?

vergecurrency.com/radio will be modified soon to have the radiocrypto.com player and chatbox in it, so basically it will look like the main page of radiocrypto. we're adding more to the show schedule tonight, stay tuned!

[kaigeta]

So... RadioCrypto milestone not happening, canceled, or what? I know it's not a huge deal, but i was curious to see what the "include in core wallets" would end up looking like.

Also i noticed in an interview that the merchandise store was supposed to only accept XVG. Did the community vote to have it also accept BTC? I thought accepting only XVG was a great idea.

radiocrypto is up. and it is in the core wallets on the github already, and will be in the next core release.

yes, the merch store is already being built, and will only accept xvg.

Nice. RadioCrypto website looks solid. Glad to hear it'll be XVG only. The Road Map currently says it will accept XVG and BTC, hence my confusion. Thanks for clearing that up.

glad you like it. we're still posting content to the radiocrypto.com site, but tonight's first show will be on at 8pm PST / 11pm EST (CoinMetal with Frank Dashwood)

Just want to say man. Your (+ the community's) commitment, principle, and vision for this coin are the reason I bought it. Been following silently since Doge and i'm incredibly impressed at what has been built here. If absolutely nothing else, this is an awesome experiment to see if the crypto market values a shiny brand over the real thing. It's an experiement i'm happy to be on the losing side of (sorta?), if we're wrong.

Also take fucking http://vergecurrency.com/radio/ down, or redirect, if cryptoradio is the new jazz!

lol thanks! it is rather fun, isnt it?

vergecurrency.com/radio will be modified soon to have the radiocrypto.com player and chatbox in it, so basically it will look like the main page of radiocrypto. we're adding more to the show schedule tonight, stay tuned!

Seriously man, kudos! I'd say you're wrong, but, well, you're not. I started using the net in the era of newsgroups, bulletins, and then irc. This IS a rather fun coin and community, i've learned a lot. More than i've learned from one group since those days. Maybe XVG has renewed my faith in the net for a time, haha. Anyway.... haha

Chatbox you say!? I'll be there to complain about minor SEO stuff or something (lurk)!

[TheMostGhost]

Well. I can't say enough.

Love the commitment, "the sportsmanship" and i also treasure gains which are the real consequence of hard work put in by the dev.

Great job.

I also support vergecurrency - via twitter account @TheGhosTMost (Cointeller) - feel happy to tweet and retweet with me.

I believe XVG is destined to be a success on and off the pitch 

[Lalaland122]

There are a lot of coins for crypto. I guess there is not a big chance to get it to moon.

[Slemicek]

There are a lot of coins for crypto. I guess there is not a big chance to get it to moon.

Thank you for such relevant post.

[TheMostGhost]

There are a lot of coins for crypto. I guess there is not a big chance to get it to moon.

Thank you for such relevant post.

I believe this post should be highlighted.

[lao]

Hi Dev,

Hope you  will find some time to address this , still curious to see your thoughts.



Hey Sunerok,

would  like to see your view&Verge community on this:

I just realized that loopback - dummy IPs -  on the user side, but public ledger  can be integrated so smoothly  in the IOT / connected vehicles/ smart city echo system.

they are  estimating billions of  things connected  by 2020 and blockchain will be used as  backbone instead of deploying  centralized nodes around the end users.

now the thing is that corporations are already starting to  build private blockchains to accommodate this. Basically  a virtual currency will be used to pay inside those chains. there are a lot examples on this if we search.

Do you find feasible to try to tackle the IOT market?

this could be huge.

indeed, public ledger needs to exist .

As  for security, if you cannot see within verge blockchain the real IP s of the users, maybe verge can be considered an alternative to the private chains.

I think that selling the dummy Ip s/public ledger idea for IOT is easier that those for person privacy.

Some people can consider that privacy is not that important and also that those that think too much of this  are going into the conspiracy theory zone.

Which is not true, why not keeping it invisible but legal (because of the public ledger) if it`s possible, but it is what it is and  this thinking might block easy adoption.

Thus this idea with IOT which  screams end user security/privacy.

PS: verge can go for combined "human" and "things privacy"  , not sure about the branding/ specialization aspect  in respect with the market info overflow.
this can be further on discussed.

cheers

[Dogedarkdev]

Hi Dev,

Hope you  will find some time to address this , still curious to see your thoughts.



Hey Sunerok,

would  like to see your view&Verge community on this:

I just realized that loopback - dummy IPs -  on the user side, but public ledger  can be integrated so smoothly  in the IOT / connected vehicles/ smart city echo system.

they are  estimating billions of  things connected  by 2020 and blockchain will be used as  backbone instead of deploying  centralized nodes around the end users.

now the thing is that corporations are already starting to  build private blockchains to accommodate this. Basically  a virtual currency will be used to pay inside those chains. there are a lot examples on this if we search.

Do you find feasible to try to tackle the IOT market?

this could be huge.

indeed, public ledger needs to exist .

As  for security, if you cannot see within verge blockchain the real IP s of the users, maybe verge can be considered an alternative to the private chains.

I think that selling the dummy Ip s/public ledger idea for IOT is easier that those for person privacy.

Some people can consider that privacy is not that important and also that those that think too much of this  are going into the conspiracy theory zone.

Which is not true, why not keeping it invisible but legal (because of the public ledger) if it`s possible, but it is what it is and  this thinking might block easy adoption.

Thus this idea with IOT which  screams end user security/privacy.

PS: verge can go for combined "human" and "things privacy"  , not sure about the branding/ specialization aspect  in respect with the market info overflow.
this can be further on discussed.

cheers

im not so sure i understand. are you suggesting we run verge's blockchain through the internet of things? if so, it's not really a great idea. no one is going to want to install verge on their washing machine/dishwasher/thermostat/etc. as it stands right now, the internet of things is not very secure and is often exploited to perform attacks. (see here: http://www.npr.org/2016/10/22/498954197/internet-outage-update-internet-of-things-hacking-attack-led-to-outage-of-popula) also, most devices on the iot do not have an option to install additional software. please clarify what you are explaining.

[coinfused.so]

Is that Verge QT for osx the electrum version?
Only getting 1 connection, not seeing how many blocks it is downloading?
Keeps out of sync!

same here... ;/ trying to sync for 3 days now

[Dogedarkdev]

Is that Verge QT for osx the electrum version?
Only getting 1 connection, not seeing how many blocks it is downloading?
Keeps out of sync!

same here... ;/ trying to sync for 3 days now

try syncing bitcoin, takes over a week lol

you can go to vergecurrency.de and download the chain instead. there's even instructions there.

[A_McGriff]

Hi Dev,

Hope you  will find some time to address this , still curious to see your thoughts.



Hey Sunerok,

would  like to see your view&Verge community on this:

I just realized that loopback - dummy IPs -  on the user side, but public ledger  can be integrated so smoothly  in the IOT / connected vehicles/ smart city echo system.

they are  estimating billions of  things connected  by 2020 and blockchain will be used as  backbone instead of deploying  centralized nodes around the end users.

now the thing is that corporations are already starting to  build private blockchains to accommodate this. Basically  a virtual currency will be used to pay inside those chains. there are a lot examples on this if we search.

Do you find feasible to try to tackle the IOT market?

this could be huge.

indeed, public ledger needs to exist .

As  for security, if you cannot see within verge blockchain the real IP s of the users, maybe verge can be considered an alternative to the private chains.

I think that selling the dummy Ip s/public ledger idea for IOT is easier that those for person privacy.

Some people can consider that privacy is not that important and also that those that think too much of this  are going into the conspiracy theory zone.

Which is not true, why not keeping it invisible but legal (because of the public ledger) if it`s possible, but it is what it is and  this thinking might block easy adoption.

Thus this idea with IOT which  screams end user security/privacy.

PS: verge can go for combined "human" and "things privacy"  , not sure about the branding/ specialization aspect  in respect with the market info overflow.
this can be further on discussed.

cheers

im not so sure i understand. are you suggesting we run verge's blockchain through the internet of things? if so, it's not really a great idea. no one is going to want to install verge on their washing machine/dishwasher/thermostat/etc. as it stands right now, the internet of things is not very secure and is often exploited to perform attacks. (see here: http://www.npr.org/2016/10/22/498954197/internet-outage-update-internet-of-things-hacking-attack-led-to-outage-of-popula) also, most devices on the iot do not have an option to install additional software. please clarify what you are explaining.

I think i was able to decipher what he was asking....

....or maybe not...

but to me i could see Verge as the backbone for a lot of "Internet of Things" transactions because of the coin supply, open ledger, and anonymity.
Once Verge implements smart contracts, IOT transactions with Verge will be possible.

I was also pondering the idea of Verge's blockchain being used in the autodriving infrastructure, Tesla, Inc. is developing. Elon Musk would be wise to break from the pack and create an ICO through the Verge network (so would a lot of businesses). For autocars he would want the information flow to be on the darknet so as not to allow hackers to identify any single person's vehicle for attack.

Just throwing it out there, knowing you VergeDEV though, you've already got something up your sleeve in this regard.
But one thing at a time right?

Loving all the development at XVG!

This VentureBeat article helped me understand IOT and blockchain alot better:
https://venturebeat.com/2016/11/20/how-blockchain-can-change-the-future-of-iot/

[lao]

I think A_MCGriff nailed it.


https://dzone.com/articles/what-blockchain-can-do-for-the-internet-of-things


Regarding Darkdev`s  link, I think that  securing IOT end nodes is not the job of the blockchain and some solution needs to be developed  to secure them and allow IOT to mature.

Once end nodes are secured, (Verge) Blockchain can allow micro payments/ smart contracts between them. transactions will be also secured, Verge combo  public ledger/ but 127.0.0.1 would fit great here imo.

I think  suppliers need to have verge/other crypto functionality  already installed in E-sim(for cars) or fridge software/ other device etc, not their customers/average Joe. maybe they are going to use more blockchains , each one for specific services;  great if Verge would be used for microtransactions.


Here we need the b2b partnerships that verge would need to win   in order to get more adoption.

In an interview you mentioned that once you guys deploy a couple of more things (including RSK) you are going to go out and sell more the benefits of Verge.
But you also said you are not going to approach it as "door to door", like selling vacuum cleaners and that everyone should come to the "crypto shop" and look around.

In my opinion,  a coin is located  in the "crypto shop"when it is present in the industry - conferences/youtube/blogs/blockchain events and once this is done, individual  companies will come to look and choose between verge and X coin to run it through their ecommerce platform etc.   if not , verge does not exist  in comparison with the other  coin competitors.

I`d love to see a plan to build partnerships, maybe employ people for biz dev, but i dunno how getting funding will work out if  VC money is out of the question.

Thanks for replying to my comment & apologies  for not being clear enough, English is not my 1st language.
BTW, great move with the interviews, this is how people  will trust verge even  more.

[Metros]

What are the methods of staking in VERGE? (staking/mining/masternode)

And what are the minimum coins needed for each of the methods?

Also, is there a known fee reward (estimation) or a calculator?

I am thinking to get into the VERGE world.

[Dogedarkdev]

What are the methods of staking in VERGE? (staking/mining/masternode)

And what are the minimum coins needed for each of the methods?

Also, is there a known fee reward (estimation) or a calculator?

I am thinking to get into the VERGE world.

we do not use Proof of Stake, and we do not have centralized masternodes either.

[Dogedarkdev]

I apologize if youve been asked this often but when is the estimated date of RSK contracts?

the date revolves around when RSK completes them for bitcoin

[01Fedda]

Hey guys is there a bootstrap I can use for the windows wallet??   

[S.W.A.T.]

Hey guys is there a bootstrap I can use for the windows wallet??   

Yes: vergecurrency.de

[01Fedda]

Hey guys is there a bootstrap I can use for the windows wallet??   

Yes: vergecurrency.de

Thanks for the response, I'm downloading it right now.   

[maxbobolo]

So for the windows wallet I just wanted to confirm,

1.I don't have to encrypt it if I don't expect anyone stealing my computer.

2.And If I backup the wallet (via . dat file ) in another safe place I can just restore the wallet if my computer gets destroyed in a fire or whatever?