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July 03, 2017, 10:29:53 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden


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July 03, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden



So upon mentioning that "no reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden" you already saw the opposites of them?  You believe in demon and hell and already saw them maybe because for you God, angels and heaven remains hidden.  Well, it is really become a debate if we talk about God.  Many believe and some little do not.  To end this, maybe we should just respect our each others opinion.  According to the Bible, You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.  God said that.  So, basically to believe is to see.  And I believe in Him.  The mere fact that I am here and breathing is the evidence that God is here.
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July 03, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
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The standard position for any human being is  to not believe crazy claims unless there is good evidence for it, otherwise you would get lost in all the claims. Paranormal shit, ghosts, telekinesis, god and so on and so on. The burden of proof is on the people who make these outrageous claims and guess what, no one has ever proved any of it.
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July 03, 2017, 05:51:04 PM
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We are used to everything. It must be Proven. It's like here on the forum already say that little Earth is flat, and half of the members of the community believe in it. But at the same time, no one presents any evidence with the help of one science. Why, then, need to prove the help of science in the existence of God. Religion and Science are two different things.
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July 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
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We are used to everything. It must be Proven. It's like here on the forum already say that little Earth is flat, and half of the members of the community believe in it. But at the same time, no one presents any evidence with the help of one science. Why, then, need to prove the help of science in the existence of God. Religion and Science are two different things.

Yes religion is belief in something without evidence or good reason, science on the other hand presents evidence. Science works, religion doesn't. When you are sick you go to a hospital or do you pray?
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July 03, 2017, 08:16:18 PM
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Stunning research finds that yoga and meditation literally "repair" your DNA to eliminate disease and depression





Balancing activities like Tai Chi, yoga and meditation are touted for their ability to promote a sense of well-being and reduce stress, but is there more to it than meets the eye? While these exercises are known for being great ways to relax, new research has shown that their benefits extend far past the ephemeral. The relief mind-body interventions can offer isn't just mental; in fact, these activities can actually bring about physical changes at the molecular level.

A recent study led by scientists from Coventry University and Radboud University have shown that mind-body interventions can turn back molecular reactions within your DNA that cause disease and depression.

The study's lead researcher Ivana Buric, from the Brain, Belief and Behaviour Lab in Coventry University's Centre for Psychology, Behaviour and Achievement, commented, "These activities are leaving what we call a molecular signature in our cells, which reverses the effect that stress or anxiety would have on the body by changing how our genes are expressed. Put simply, MBIs [mind-body interventions] cause the brain to steer our DNA processes along a path which improves our wellbeing."

Buric also noted that millions of people are already reaping the benefits of mind-body exercises like yoga and Tai Chi, without even realizing how truly beneficial these activities are for their bodies. Buric states that while more studies still need to be done to fully ascertain the scope of what mind-body intervention can do, she believes that their research is a key building block for future research efforts.

Published in the journal Frontiers in Immunology, their study analyzes more than a decades' worth of research on how mind-body intervention strategies can impact the behavior of DNA. Genetic expression was a focal point of the team's research, because the way genes are activated to produce proteins can have a system-wide impact. The biological composition of the brain, body and immune system can all be affected by the way genetic proteins are expressed.

In total, the team reviewed 18 studies with a combined 846 participants. The experts determined that when looked at as a whole, the 11 years of data "reveal a pattern in the molecular changes which happen to the body as a result of MBIS [mind-body interventions], and how those changes benefit our mental and physical health."


Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-07-03-stunning-research-finds-that-yoga-and-meditation-literally-repair-your-dna-to-eliminate-disease-and-depression.html.


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July 03, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
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We are used to everything. It must be Proven. It's like here on the forum already say that little Earth is flat, and half of the members of the community believe in it. But at the same time, no one presents any evidence with the help of one science. Why, then, need to prove the help of science in the existence of God. Religion and Science are two different things.

Yes religion is belief in something without evidence or good reason, science on the other hand presents evidence. Science works, religion doesn't. When you are sick you go to a hospital or do you pray?

There are people that actually go to pray. In some cases it works. Especially if it is some mental problem.
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July 04, 2017, 01:22:15 AM
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We are used to everything. It must be Proven. It's like here on the forum already say that little Earth is flat, and half of the members of the community believe in it. But at the same time, no one presents any evidence with the help of one science. Why, then, need to prove the help of science in the existence of God. Religion and Science are two different things.

Yes religion is belief in something without evidence or good reason, science on the other hand presents evidence. Science works, religion doesn't. When you are sick you go to a hospital or do you pray?

"Every visible thing depends on an invisible root, as empiricism depends on metaphysics, as logic depends on common sense, as legal rights depend on truths we hold to be self-evident. Every rational principle depends on a deeper sacred principle not open to reason to discuss. "

For a in depth discussion of this point I would refer you both to this excellent essay on this topic.

Convince me Logic is Useful
http://www.scifiwright.com/2006/09/convince-me-logic-is-useful/

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July 04, 2017, 01:22:56 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden


Here is one reason why God angels and heaven may choose not to impose truth upon us.


Why Doesn't God Show Himself Anymore
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/712708/jewish/Why-Doesnt-Gd-Show-Himself-Anymore.htm
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I have often wondered, and still wonder, when did G‑d stop talking to us or interacting with us, and why? I think of this often, but especially in relation to the destruction of the temples which He wanted us to build as a home for Him on earth. They were not just structures. We built them because He commanded us to build them, not as just another structure, but as a home for Him on earth!

Why then, while many times before He intervened powerfully in many seemingly less important aspects of our lives, yet when the temples were being destroyed, He remained silent. And He still remains silent. Can you tell me why?

Answer

The question is one that has bothered Jews since the time we were exiled in Egypt. Even Moses then agonized over the hidden face of G‑d, asking, "Why have you done evil to this people? Why have you sent me?"

Concerning the destruction of the first Temple, here is the passage from the Talmud(Yoma 69b):

Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said: Why were they called Men of the Great Assembly? Because they returned the crown to its original place.

For Moshe declared, "the great, mighty and awesome G‑d."

Along came Jeremiah and said, "Foreigners are dancing in His Temple! Where is His awesomeness?" So he would not call G‑d awesome.

Along came Daniel and said, "Foreigners are oppressing His children! Where is His might?" So he would not call G‑d mighty.

Then they came along and said, "On the contrary, this is the might of His mightiness, that He conquers His desire, for He shows patience to the wicked. And this is His awesomeness, for if not for the awe of the Holy One, blessed be He, how is it possible that a nation is able to endure while absorbed among the nations?"

[And so they instituted that we should say, "the great, mighty and awesome G‑d" in our silent prayer.]

This week, I am teaching my five year old to ride a bike. Right now, she can ride with training wheels, and even then she falls once in a while. I could chase after her and ensure that she would never fall. And I could leave the training wheels on forever. But that is not the purpose. I want her to be able to ride off into the blue, without me. That is what being a father is all about.

G‑d is great because He gives us a world and tells us to fix it. He could have given us a happy, care-bear world and just enjoined us to have fun. But that would not be true kindness and He would not be a father. It would not be our world; it would be nothing more than a playpen we were tossed into. We would have no meaning, and life no value.

So instead, He brought us here, gave us basic directions, held on to us for a while, sending us Moses and the prophets and then the sages, and then eventually, took off the training wheels and let us go.

Nevertheless, in His apparent absence, He is with us more than ever. It's hard to write, because there is so much contradiction, but even in the midst of the most unimaginable horrors, His holy hand could still be seen in miracles. The Rebbe gives as an example the perplexing German loss of the crucial Battle of El Alamein—which saved Palestine from a Nazi purge. There are countless more examples. Yitta Halberstam and Judith Leventhal have just recently published their "Small Miracles of the Holocaust," and the stories are authentic, vivid and haunting. "What a strange G‑d," it makes us think, "that He is there and not there at once."

In our own lives, He remains silent only when we do not know how to listen. If you are waiting for a booming voice from the sky to answer your prayers, you may be like the child who is riding her bike into a wall and waiting for her father to catch and stop her. But if you will look into your own mind and heart which G‑d has given you and the signposts He places all around you, there, if you seek with sincerity, you will surely hear His voice loud and clear—and find the brakes right on time.

In truth, in His absence He and His kindness towards us is found even more than in His presence. That is His greatness and that is His awesomeness.

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July 04, 2017, 02:13:37 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.
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July 04, 2017, 03:32:41 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

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July 04, 2017, 10:57:45 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

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If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

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July 04, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

Cool

If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

Cheesy

He will not show up just for us to believe Him.  He is God.  We are nothing to Him.  Yet He loves us unconditionally.  We are like flowers here today and gone tomorrow.  We are like waves tossed in the ocean.  We are nothing. We have to seek Him with all our hearts if we want to know Him.  He is not punishing us if He will not show Himself to us.  He do not needs us.  But we need him.
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July 04, 2017, 11:10:57 AM
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The standard position for any human being is  to not believe crazy claims unless there is good evidence for it, otherwise you would get lost in all the claims. Paranormal shit, ghosts, telekinesis, god and so on and so on. The burden of proof is on the people who make these outrageous claims and guess what, no one has ever proved any of it.
If that is you crazy answer then i do have some crazy doubts,can you see the air we breath ,yet we believe that we are in taking oxygen and you could answer that because of scientific explanation ,but how many science not being fully developed to understand the vast extent of things,we are yet to settle on the whole solar system thing because science cannot give a certain answer regarding that. Tongue

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July 04, 2017, 01:19:07 PM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

Cool

If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

Cheesy

He will not show up just for us to believe Him.  He is God.  We are nothing to Him.  Yet He loves us unconditionally.  We are like flowers here today and gone tomorrow.  We are like waves tossed in the ocean.  We are nothing. We have to seek Him with all our hearts if we want to know Him.  He is not punishing us if He will not show Himself to us.  He do not needs us.  But we need him.

It says clearly in the bible that if you do not believe in god you will go to hell. If he loves us so much, why does he send people to hell for eternal torture. Don't you see the problem there?
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July 04, 2017, 02:20:57 PM
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Personally, I have nothing against religion, if it does not harm myself and other people. And health does not depend on religion, it depends on the way of life of a person.

Your way of life is influenced by your faith, but so is your joy.

"A joyful heart is good medicine, but depression drains one's strength."
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/17-22.htm
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

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If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

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Not true. God has sent countless messengers. The Phoenix Journals are a recent communication from GOD, and they are so extensively detailed that it needs explanation. What explanation is offered? You need a lot of background information before coming to a conclusion and solving the Content-Source Problem.

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July 04, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

Cool

If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

Cheesy

He will not show up just for us to believe Him.  He is God.  We are nothing to Him.  Yet He loves us unconditionally.  We are like flowers here today and gone tomorrow.  We are like waves tossed in the ocean.  We are nothing. We have to seek Him with all our hearts if we want to know Him.  He is not punishing us if He will not show Himself to us.  He do not needs us.  But we need him.

It says clearly in the bible that if you do not believe in god you will go to hell. If he loves us so much, why does he send people to hell for eternal torture. Don't you see the problem there!?
Why do you think that hell is a real concept?

Reincarnation is the rule, although many misconceptions abound. There is a period of rest between incarnations, and sometimes individuals will occupy other planes of existence before returning to the Earth. When an individual’s reincarnational cycle is over, the individual moves on to other systems of reality.[2] There is no heaven or hell,[3] only continued existence.

What about the Content-Source Problem? It attacks the idea that life ends at death. Is that not a serious problem for atheists?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Problem_of_Seths_Origin.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi35u3F7O_UAhVoxlQKHQStAEwQFgggMAA&usg=AFQjCNH8yXJYJ58Fc_TZTDSbLlh1Reckkg
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July 04, 2017, 05:41:06 PM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

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If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

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He will not show up just for us to believe Him.  He is God.  We are nothing to Him.  Yet He loves us unconditionally.  We are like flowers here today and gone tomorrow.  We are like waves tossed in the ocean.  We are nothing. We have to seek Him with all our hearts if we want to know Him.  He is not punishing us if He will not show Himself to us.  He do not needs us.  But we need him.

It says clearly in the bible that if you do not believe in god you will go to hell. If he loves us so much, why does he send people to hell for eternal torture. Don't you see the problem there!?
Why do you think that hell is a real concept?

Reincarnation is the rule, although many misconceptions abound. There is a period of rest between incarnations, and sometimes individuals will occupy other planes of existence before returning to the Earth. When an individual’s reincarnational cycle is over, the individual moves on to other systems of reality.[2] There is no heaven or hell,[3] only continued existence.

What about the Content-Source Problem? It attacks the idea that life ends at death. Is that not a serious problem for atheists?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Problem_of_Seths_Origin.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi35u3F7O_UAhVoxlQKHQStAEwQFgggMAA&usg=AFQjCNH8yXJYJ58Fc_TZTDSbLlh1Reckkg

The only way reincarnation can be accurately a fact is, if people who are reincarnated pick up their life from where they left it off.

No supposedly reincarnated person ever has clear understanding of his past life. He is shown to be wrong when he tries to describe things of his past life. At best, he is sitting in a position of story telling.

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July 04, 2017, 05:43:25 PM
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Science is too backward to understand God.

You speak as if you had seen God and knew where exactly God is.

Has many years and to this day does not have at least a single person who says that he saw and talked with God

How do you expect people to believe in God?

Why is it so difficult for God to show Himself that God really exists?

No reason for god, angels and heaven remain hidden




EXACTLY!  Kiss
God must do something in order for all people to believe in him.
Miracles and Bibles are not enough for all people to believe in God.
I think we really need to see God, and God should talk to all people.

Don't you ever go outside and look at nature? How much more does God have to show you before you will understand that He exists?

Cool

If God wanted us to know he exists, he would know exactly what to do. Yet he chooses to not do it and then punish people for it. I don't really understand how anyone thinks that makes sense, oh well, religiotards

Cheesy

He will not show up just for us to believe Him.  He is God.  We are nothing to Him.  Yet He loves us unconditionally.  We are like flowers here today and gone tomorrow.  We are like waves tossed in the ocean.  We are nothing. We have to seek Him with all our hearts if we want to know Him.  He is not punishing us if He will not show Himself to us.  He do not needs us.  But we need him.

It says clearly in the bible that if you do not believe in god you will go to hell. If he loves us so much, why does he send people to hell for eternal torture. Don't you see the problem there?

God sends no one to Hell. He simply offers the option. Believe and accept Jesus salvation and miss out on Hell. Or don't accept and believe Jesus, and toss yourself into Hell.

YOUR choice.

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