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April 01, 2017, 11:14:20 PM
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So you see? Your lie is so deeply embedded in yourself that it is becoming almost the only thing that you can do. Turn away from your lie while you still have a chance, before you become a babbling idiot. I mean, anyone who talks about riding his flying unicorn is almost to babbling idiot mode.

If you wouldn't resist God so strongly, He would willingly help you out of your problem.

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Why do you not believe me?

My unicorn is as real as your god.

But my unicorn can shoot rainbows from his arse.

Wow! You are getting closer to babbling idiot mode all the time!

Your unicorn doesn't have proof. God's existence is proven:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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These links are not proof. They are your ramblings.

Why is it that only you post links to yourself?

Others who try to argue your point don't use your ramblings.... why is that? I propose it is because even they know you are delusional with your arguments.

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.


Here is my flying unicorn. I took this photo today. His name is Frank



No room for a saddle. You must sit on the horn, right?    Grin

You are very disrespectful to Frank.

I ride bareback.... thought it was pretty obvious.
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April 13, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
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It doesn’t matter where you live, if you believe in God, you WILL be healthier!
http://drleaf.com/blog/it-doesnt-matter-where-you-live-if-you-believe-in-god-you-will-be-healthier/
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Over the last few years research has been showing that a belief in a loving and benevolent god has many health benefits. A large proportion of these studies have been done in the USA but now in a large Norwegian longitudinal health study called HUNT, researchers from the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) were able to find a clear relationship between time spent in church and lower blood pressure in both women and men.

It was initially thought that the large cultural and religious differences between the US and Norway would make it difficult to apply findings from the US to Norway. However, despite these differences, and the fact that only 4% of Norwegians (as opposed to the 40% of Americans) go to church on a weekly basis, the findings of the health benefits of believing in God were almost identical: those who were religiously active were healthier than those who were not religiously active!

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Other research shows that those who attend church were 30% less likely to suffer depression and those who believe God have a sense of purpose and are 70% less likely to be depressed.

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For many, religious activity changes between childhood and adulthood, and a new study finds this could affect one’s mental health. According to Temple University’s Joanna Maselko, Sc.D., women who had stopped being religiously active were more than three times more likely to have suffered generalized anxiety and alcohol abuse/dependence than women who reported always having been active religiously.

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Now a new national study by two Brigham Young University sociologists finds that religious involvement makes teens half as likely to use marijuana. The research showed the protective effect of church and the influence of parents.

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Missouri University health psychology researchers have found that religious and spiritual support improves health outcomes for both men and women who face chronic health conditions. The research showed that both genders may increase their reliance on spiritual and religious resources as they face increased illness or disability.

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Research also shows that religion and spirituality are linked to positive physical and mental health; however, most studies have focused on people with life threatening diseases. A new study from the University of Missouri-Columbia shows that religion helps many individuals with disabilities by enabling them to adjust to their impairments and can give a new meaning to their lives.

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More than 20 percent of atheist scientists are spiritual, according to new research from Rice University. Though the general public marries spirituality and religion, the study found that spirituality is a separate idea — one that more closely aligns with scientific discovery — for “spiritual atheist” scientists.

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A dose of God will help medicine. Research shows that many patients do not feel the medical system adequately meets their spiritual needs,” said Cadge. “By shedding light on how religion and spirituality connect to the practice of medicine, this study is a first step toward addressing such needs of patients and their families during a profoundly threatening chapter of life.

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More than half of physicians believe that religion and spirituality have a significant influence on patients’ health, according to a report in the April 9 issue of Archives of Internal Medicine, one of the JAMA/Archives journals. Physicians who are most religious are more likely to interpret the influence of religion and spirituality in positive ways.

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In times of economic distress and plenty, ninety percent of Americans pray, more than half of us once a day or more. We pray for big things—to stay healthy, to keep our jobs, and to strengthen our relationships. And we pray for small things—to find parking spaces and missing items. Some of us are sure God exists and others pray simply to cover the bases.

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These are just a few of the studies showing that no matter who we are, what is happening or where we are…we NEED to believe!

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April 13, 2017, 07:37:22 PM
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If not treated and just wait for help from God, the person will die. I feel sorry for people who believe in miracles, and draw pleas for help to God. Religion and health are incompatible. It will tell you any doctor.
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April 13, 2017, 08:05:14 PM
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If not treated and just wait for help from God, the person will die. I feel sorry for people who believe in miracles, and draw pleas for help to God. Religion and health are incompatible. It will tell you any doctor.






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April 13, 2017, 08:54:29 PM
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If not treated and just wait for help from God, the person will die. I feel sorry for people who believe in miracles, and draw pleas for help to God. Religion and health are incompatible. It will tell you any doctor.

Except, of course, for the many who died from the treatment of the medical. And except, of course, for the many who have lived but the doctor doesn't know why or how.

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April 18, 2017, 03:03:09 PM
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Ran across this quote today on nihilism.

FIDES ET RATIO
http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_14091998_fides-et-ratio.htmlio.html
Quote from: John Paul II
the nihilist interpretation, which is at once the denial of all foundations and the negation of all objective truth. Quite apart from the fact that it conflicts with the demands and the content of the word of God, nihilism is a denial of the humanity and of the very identity of the human being. It should never be forgotten that the neglect of being inevitably leads to losing touch with objective truth and therefore with the very ground of human dignity. This in turn makes it possible to erase from the countenance of man and woman the marks of their likeness to God, and thus to lead them little by little either to a destructive will to power or to a solitude without hope. Once the truth is denied to human beings, it is pure illusion to try to set them free. Truth and freedom either go together hand in hand or together they perish in misery.

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April 21, 2017, 12:57:32 AM
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Theological Foundations and Application for Personal and Professional Life
Jama L. White, Psy.D., Amanda M. Blackburn, Psy.D., and Mary K. Plisco, Ph.D. Richmont Graduate University
http://richmont.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Richmont-Rest-as-Virtue-3-27-2015-Final.pdf
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In light of these Biblical directives to rest and cultural pressures to perform, the current study was designed to learn more about mental health professionals’ satisfaction with the rest they achieve in their lives. Quantitative and qualitative survey questions assessed participants’ satisfaction with rest practices, barriers to rest, beliefs about rest, and positive experiences of Sabbath-keeping practices.

Hypothesis #1: Those who identified themselves as Sabbath-keepers would report greater satisfaction with their quantity of rest practices than those who did not identify as Sabbath-keepers.

Hypothesis #2: Sabbath-keepers would also report higher levels of satisfaction with their quality of rest than non-Sabbath-keepers.

A concept mapping approach was used to categorize qualitative data regarding barriers to obtaining rest and regarding positive Sabbath rest practices.

Participants
296 mental health professionals or students who were either associated with one of two Christian professional graduate programs or were CAPS
members. 52% described themselves as clinical, 19% as students, 13 % as academic. 68% were married, 32% were single or divorced.

CONCLUSIONS

• Only approximately 25 % of respondents in this study reported
high satisfaction with their quality or quantity of rest.
Judeo-Christian teachings have placed Sabbath keeping as a core
practice for a life with a balance of work and rest.

In this study, those who did practice Sabbath keeping (defined as
refraining from work one day a week) were significantly more likely
to experience satisfaction with the quality of their rest.


Sabbath keepers were also significantly more likely to experience
satisfaction with their quantity of rest.


The findings of this study represent a call to professionals to
reconsider how this ancient practice may be a healing force in our
own lives. The intentional pulling away from the demands of work,
the choice to pause and acknowledge God’s purpose and power in our
lives and in His world, these are powerful forces in our lives as
Christian practitioners. These themes are worthy of our earnest
personal reflection.

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April 21, 2017, 04:59:55 AM
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Christian missionaries find Japan a tough nut to crack
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/12/20/national/history/christian-missionaries-find-japan-tough-nut-crack/#.WPmOpb9OKEc
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But Christian missionaries find Japan a tough nut to crack. They always have, ever since the first of them, St. Francis Xavier, landed in Kyushu in 1549. His first impression, based on an initially friendly reception, was, “In my opinion no people superior to the Japanese will be found among the unbelievers.” Two years later, he left disheartened, calling Japanese Buddhism “an invention of the devil.”

Missionaries today use different language but express similar frustration. The Japanese have so eagerly embraced everything Western — from fads to philosophies, baseball to scientific method. Why not Christianity? Even China, officially atheist and repressive of anything outside state control, counts 52 million Christians. In South Korea, 30 percent of a population of 50 million professes Christianity. In Japan? Less than 1 percent.

One explanation comes from Minoru Okuyama, director, as of 2010, of the Missionary Training Center in Japan. That year, he told a global missions conference, “Japanese make much of human relationships more than the truth. Consequently we can say that as for Japanese, one of the most important things is harmony; in Japanese, ‘Wa.'” The Japanese, said Okuyama, “are afraid of disturbing human relationships of their families or neighborhood even though they know Christianity is best.” Chinese and South Koreans, by contrast, “make more of truth or principle than human relationships.”

A shrewd and outspoken samurai character in Shusaku Endo’s historical novel “Samurai” (1980) put a similar thought much more bluntly. His sullen response to a Spanish missionary’s evangelizing, circa 1610, was, “The Japanese don’t care whether God exists or not.”

JAPAN’S BIRTHRATE HITS HISTORIC LOW
http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/japans-demographic-demise
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First time in 100+ years newborn population dips below 1 million
TOKYO - Numbers recently released by the Japanese government show that the newborn population has dipped below 1 million for the first time in more than a hundred years.

Japan's Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare released demographic data for 2016 revealing the biggest net decrease in the almost 10 years of population decline. The birthrate has fallen to its lowest level since World War II, with only 981,000 births, while the death rate is estimated at 1.3 million. It's the lowest number of births since the census first began in 1899.

Officials projecting the figures have determined the overall population of Japan to decrease to 99.1 million by 2048 and to 86.7 million — a decrease of nearly one third from today's population of 126 million. Additionally, the people are aging, decreasing the working population by almost half — an estimated 46 percent — over the same time period.



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April 21, 2017, 09:44:42 AM
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If not treated and just wait for help from God, the person will die. I feel sorry for people who believe in miracles, and draw pleas for help to God. Religion and health are incompatible. It will tell you any doctor.

Except, of course, for the many who died from the treatment of the medical. And except, of course, for the many who have lived but the doctor doesn't know why or how.

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Yes, medicine is also unable to cure everything. I think it is necessary to combine faith in God and medicine for a more productive result.
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April 21, 2017, 10:09:04 AM
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If not treated and just wait for help from God, the person will die. I feel sorry for people who believe in miracles, and draw pleas for help to God. Religion and health are incompatible. It will tell you any doctor.

Except, of course, for the many who died from the treatment of the medical. And except, of course, for the many who have lived but the doctor doesn't know why or how.

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Yes, medicine is also unable to cure everything. I think it is necessary to combine faith in God and medicine for a more productive result.

Precisely! And here is why.

Faith in God would be enough to cure. It would be enough to do everything else, as well. It would be enough to even do things like telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, and literal creation. The great problem is, we just don't have enough faith.

Everything is held in place by the faith of God. God's faith is so strong, that it is actually knowledge, and not simple faith in the sense of our understanding of faith. God's faith is in the things of the world, in nutrition, and in medicine. When we believe God enough to partake of nutrition and medicine properly, the healing faith of God that is built into everything is imparted to us.

Often healing is imparted to us through placebo effect. We may not understand or realize that placebo effect is combining God's strong faith with our weak faith, but that is what often happens. And, it might really be the only thing that happens.

Probably, one of the main reasons that we have our lives on earth is to bring us towards the faith of God, our Parent. Why would we need a body to do things if we had enough faith to simply will something to be done? We wouldn't.

But we don't have that kind of faith. Our bodies and minds are things that were originally designed by God to bring us into greater faith. They were originally tools for building faith by using the faith of God (that He placed in nature) to allow us to do things (using our bodies) that we couldn't do as spirits without bodies. Why couldn't we do them without having a body to perform the acts? Because we don't have enough faith.

So, medicine, nutrition, and faith work together to make healing and health happen.

This is why Jesus instituted the sacraments of Baptism and The Lord's Supper. They are the physical part we need to make our faith in salvation work... or at least work better. And this is why James in the Bible says to apply and anoint with oil to help the sick person get well.

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April 21, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
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If not treated and just wait for help from God, the person will die. I feel sorry for people who believe in miracles, and draw pleas for help to God. Religion and health are incompatible. It will tell you any doctor.

Except, of course, for the many who died from the treatment of the medical. And except, of course, for the many who have lived but the doctor doesn't know why or how.

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Yes, medicine is also unable to cure everything. I think it is necessary to combine faith in God and medicine for a more productive result.

Precisely! And here is why.

Faith in God would be enough to cure. It would be enough to do everything else, as well. It would be enough to even do things like telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, and literal creation. The great problem is, we just don't have enough faith.

Everything is held in place by the faith of God. God's faith is so strong, that it is actually knowledge, and not simple faith in the sense of our understanding of faith. God's faith is in the things of the world, in nutrition, and in medicine. When we believe God enough to partake of nutrition and medicine properly, the healing faith of God that is built into everything is imparted to us.

Often healing is imparted to us through placebo effect. We may not understand or realize that placebo effect is combining God's strong faith with our weak faith, but that is what often happens. And, it might really be the only thing that happens.

Probably, one of the main reasons that we have our lives on earth is to bring us towards the faith of God, our Parent. Why would we need a body to do things if we had enough faith to simply will something to be done? We wouldn't.

But we don't have that kind of faith. Our bodies and minds are things that were originally designed by God to bring us into greater faith. They were originally tools for building faith by using the faith of God (that He placed in nature) to allow us to do things (using our bodies) that we couldn't do as spirits without bodies. Why couldn't we do them without having a body to perform the acts? Because we don't have enough faith.

So, medicine, nutrition, and faith work together to make healing and health happen.

This is why Jesus instituted the sacraments of Baptism and The Lord's Supper. They are the physical part we need to make our faith in salvation work... or at least work better. And this is why James in the Bible says to apply and anoint with oil to help the sick person get well.

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Faith is as effective as blood letting.
Ignorant as usual. Don't you realize that people who give blood actually become healthier because of it?



Wanting to survive is a different story as it helps to flush the system with hormones that help you fight the sickness.
What?! All people want to survive. That's why they don't commit suicide... not because they can't find a way to die. Hormones are continually flushing throughout the system.



Believing in afterlife is lunacy.  All after life cults are just bat shit crazy.

There is not even one case when someone was brain dead for few hours and came back to life. 
It is scientifically impossible for life to exist, except that it is here. God has been scientifically proven to exist. The Bible is impossible to exist without the supernatural help of God. So, since God made the Bible, what He says is truth. He talks about resurrection being real, though not immediate. Like as life is made possible by God, so He can make resurrection possible.



BADecker try it, shoot yourself with a .308, don't go to hospital, die and see if you come back to life.

Or better yet, nursing homes are full of dying people, volunteer in one, go and talk to dying people and ask them to come back to life
after they die.  Not one will.
But they will all come back to life at the last day, in the resurrection, before the judgment. God said it. Believe God.



Cell dying is an irreversible process.  You cannot jump start cell operations because the physical damage has been done.

Unless we invent nano technology to reverse cell dying process, when you die, you simply die.  End of story.


We can't form life in the first place. We might be able to manipulate life that is here somewhat. A time might come in which we are able to manipulate dead cells with nano technology to bring them back to life. But it is God Who makes life, and will make the resurrection.

Your whole speaking throughout this forum seems to be filled with despair.

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Religions played a crucial role in organizing and controlling early societies that formed during and after the agricultural revolution.

Today, religions are being replaced by a secular legal framework that is independent of any particular religion and is far superior to any fixed religious dogma. Progressive values are accepted more easily in a secular system than under a fixed religious regime. Recent example was the acceptance of homosexual marriages.

Religions today play ever diminishing role in controlling of societies in western democracies.  As a result their membership is in a constant decline.

They do occasionally fill the political void as experienced in Africa and the Middle East.

Religions are inflexible because of their holy books.  The dogma is preached as the only way forward.  So they don't allow any new ideas to come in and change the dogma.  Religions are forced to change by the ever growing outside pressures forcing them to accept the change. But they are inherently inflexible.  And in an extreme case of Islam completely fixed.

The less dogma is preached or used the more progressive the religion is.  That is why the secular world view is the most progressive system because it is not fixed, there is no rigid dogma to hinder the progress.

Religion specifically monotheism still plays this crucial role in today's society. This is the oversight that blinds today's progressivism aka leftism.

Progressivism is the blossoming of the aloe, the sudden squandering of the vital force which has accumulated in the long years when it was contented to be healthy and did not aspire after a vain display. The aloe is glorious for a single season. It progresses as it never progressed before. It admires its own excellence, looks back with pity on its earlier and humbler condition, which it attributes only to the unjust restraints in which it was held. It conceives that it has discovered the true secret of being ‘beautiful for ever,’ and in the midst of the discovery it dies.

Froude wrote the obituary long ago. Progressivism dies in a riot of song, sex, color, violence and greed. Most of what you wrote above is accurate. The secular world view is the most 'progressive' system. It is not fixed or grounded in any moral superstructure. It is a worldview without a foundation where ultimately anything goes. This worldview is the true poison for it is unsustainable, unhealthy and ultimately self destructive.

Quote from: A.W. Tozer
Whatever other factors may be present in an act of wrongdoing, folly is one that is never absent. To do a wrong act a man must for the moment think wrong; he must exercise bad judgment.

Sin, I repeat, in addition to anything else it may be, is always an act of wrong judgment. To commit a sin a man must for the moment believe that things are different from what they really are; he must confound values; he must see the moral universe out of focus; he must accept a lie as truth and see truth as a lie; he must ignore the signs on the highway and drive with his eyes shut; he must act as if he had no soul and was not accountable for his moral choices.

Sin is never a thing to be proud of. No act is wise that ignores remote consequences, and sin always does. Sin sees only today, or at most tomorrow; never the day after tomorrow, next month or next year. Death and judgment are pushed aside as if they did not exist...

Sin is basically an act of moral folly, and the greater the folly the greater the fool.

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Feeling That China Lacks Moral Foundation Fueling Growth of Christianity
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/04/18/feeling-that-china-lacks-some-kind-of-moral-foundation-fueling-growth-of-christianity/
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In hopes of escaping the trappings of urbanization and economic inequality, Chinese citizens are increasingly turning toward Christianity for spiritual fulfillment, an expert said Monday.

Predominantly an atheist state, China in 1980 had 10 million Christians, according to the Catholic News Agency. That number jumped to 60 million in 2007, and in 2014, the Telegraphreported that China was on track to overtake the U.S. by 2030 as the most Christian nation on earth. According to the Pew Research Center, 70.6 percent of Americans, or 223.2 million people, identified as Christian in 2014. Last fall, the Chinese government enacted a new crackdown on churches, warning that spiritual sects need to pledge fidelity to the state first.

Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Ian Johnson -- who has covered the region extensively since the 1980s for the Baltimore Sun, the Wall Street Journal and various other publications – said Monday at the Woodrow Wilson Center that people living in communist China’s increasingly crowded cities are becoming disillusioned with capitalism and there’s a widespread feeling that China lacks a moral compass.

Johnson discussed apathy that’s evident in Chinese public life and widely cited in social media, internet forums, articles, books and novels. When there’s an accident or someone is injured in public, for example, no one stops to help, he said, noting video evidence of this can be found widely on social media sites like Reddit.

“(People) feel that their society has become extremely harsh and unforgiving. And that it lacks some kind of moral foundation. … They turn to religious communities or faith-based communities as answers. And this is one of the reasons for the fast growth of Christianity in China, because they provide ready-made social groups,” he said.

Johnson’s book, The Souls of China: The Return of Religion After Mao, was released this month and describes why there’s a resurgence of religion in the People’s Republic put into place by communist leader Mao Zedong.

The issue of spiritual emptiness is not exclusive to the Chinese, Johnson said, opining that many in the U.S. probably share this disillusionment with modern capitalistic society. He pointed to populist movements in the west, which are building momentum against a system that many see as rigged, where too much weight is placed on economics.

“Society since the reform era has become defined by economics: to get rich is glorious. And that there aren’t too many other values in society,” Johnson said.

Like in the U.S., there is an increasing suspicion of unfairness in China. Johnson described a scenario that one might witness in Beijing: a Chinese citizen who worked for the government 15 years ago and was awarded 10 apartments in Beijing that are now worth about $1.5 million each. Johnson said this scenario is “perfectly possible.” That person can afford to drive around in sports cars and send their children to expensive schools, flaunting their wealth.

“People are not stupid. They realize this is how a lot of money was made in China, and they feel cheated,” he said.

Johnson admitted that there are plenty of brilliant entrepreneurs in China, as well.

“There are people who really deserve the millions that they make, but there’s a whole lot of people, probably the majority of millionaires in China, I would guess, earned this through what sociologists call rent-seeking efforts,” Johnson said.

According to Johnson, China lacks the mechanisms the U.S. has available for creating social change. In China, the media does not have free editorial discretion, and there are no trade unions – another reason many of the Chinese are turning inward and toward faith-based groups for answers.

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[/quote]Positive effects.....
A study in the 1996 (Kark et al.) has found that death rates for 3900 Israelis in religious and non-religious settlements over a period of 16 years were lower in religious communities. The authors cite a number of possible reasons mostly associated with lower stress levels in a religious community.

Church attendance has been found to increase life expectancy (Hummer et al. 1999) with a life expectancy at age 20 of 83 years for frequent attendees and 75 years for non-attendees. The finding, however, does not prove that religion in itself increases life expectancy.

Negative effects.......
The existence of ‘religious struggle’ in elderly patients was predictive of greater risk of mortality in a study by Pargament et al. (2001). Results indicate that patients, with a previously sound religious life, experienced a 19% to 28% greater mortality due to the belief that God was supposedly punishing them or abandoning them.

Exline et al. 1999 showed that the difficulty in forgiving God and alienation from God were associated with higher levels of depression and anxiety. Among those who currently believed in God, forgiving God for a specific, unfortunate incident predicted lower levels of anxious and depressed mood.
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The existence of ‘religious struggle’ in elderly patients was predictive of greater risk of mortality in a study by Pargament et al. (2001). Results indicate that patients, with a previously sound religious life, experienced a 19% to 28% greater mortality due to the belief that God was supposedly punishing them or abandoning them.


Did this part of the study take into account the faulty medical which kills way more people faster than they would die if they did NOT seek medical help?

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April 24, 2017, 04:15:28 AM
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The existence of ‘religious struggle’ in elderly patients was predictive of greater risk of mortality in a study by Pargament et al. (2001). Results indicate that patients, with a previously sound religious life, experienced a 19% to 28% greater mortality due to the belief that God was supposedly punishing them or abandoning them.


Did this part of the study take into account the faulty medical which kills way more people faster than they would die if they did NOT seek medical help?

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Many things in this world can't be explained scientifically, but one thing is for sure, there is no need to argue about it because even with those with higher medical knowledge can't even explain it, thus it shows that no matter what happens life must go on.
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April 24, 2017, 10:49:20 AM
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The existence of ‘religious struggle’ in elderly patients was predictive of greater risk of mortality in a study by Pargament et al. (2001). Results indicate that patients, with a previously sound religious life, experienced a 19% to 28% greater mortality due to the belief that God was supposedly punishing them or abandoning them.


Did this part of the study take into account the faulty medical which kills way more people faster than they would die if they did NOT seek medical help?

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Many things in this world can't be explained scientifically, but one thing is for sure, there is no need to argue about it because even with those with higher medical knowledge can't even explain it, thus it shows that no matter what happens life must go on.

Perhaps there is no need to argue. But we should argue anyway. Why? Because argument is the thing that brings a lot of information out into the open.

argue
[ahr-gyoo]

verb (used without object), argued, arguing.

1. to present reasons for or against a thing:
He argued in favor of capital punishment.

2. to contend in oral disagreement; dispute:
The senator argued with the president about the new tax bill.

verb (used with object), argued, arguing.

3. to state the reasons for or against:
The lawyers argued the case.

4. to maintain in reasoning:
to argue that the news report must be wrong.

5. to persuade, drive, etc., by reasoning:
to argue someone out of a plan.

6. to show; prove; imply; indicate:
His clothes argue poverty.

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April 25, 2017, 03:26:07 AM
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Is Christianity poision? Of course it is. It's not even worth debating, it just simply is. And that's that.

But wait......

Before all the Christians pour on here, red cheeks, chests puffing up, palms sweaty, ready to rip my head off.
Just stop and think of Christianity like alcohol.

Alcohol (ethyl alcohol) is a poison, just like Christianity.

Many many people all over the world enjoy an alcoholic beverage drink, with no harmful effects. Just like Christianity.
Moderate alcohol use has possible health benefits, but it's not risk-free. Just like Christianity.
It can make a social event better, happier and friendlier. Just like Christianity.

But of course take too much and:

Drinking too much alcohol, and your ability to think clearly is in trouble. Just like Christainity.
Drink too much and people tend to act irrational, wanting to punch each others light out. Just like Christianity.


So you see Christianity (in moderation) is a good thing, it all depends on the dosage.
However, take too much (like BADlogic) and it becomes poisionous, you become like the drunk twat at a wedding. Flopping about, telling unfunny jokes how you once shagged the bride, urinating on the dance floor.
Giving Christianity a bad name, like BADlogic.


Christianity is life. Christianity:
1. Describes the source of life, God;
2. Shows how God gave us Life in the beginning;
3. Expresses how we threw life away in the face of God's warning;
4. Documents the them of the Savior, Jesus, Who is life;
5. Presents how Jesus brought life back to us;
6. Maintains our freedom to accept or reject the new life;
7. Expresses what our new life in Heaven will be basically like.

Christianity is the only source and upholding of life. There is nothing else regarding life. The choice is still open to you to accept or reject life. However, because of the depth to which God place Himself into our nature and the universe, rejecting life will be a very agonizing thing.

In the beginning, God gave Adam and Eve life. God warned them about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He told them they would die if they ate the fruit. Spiritually, they died the day they ate the fruit. Physically they died as well, later. All the pains and troubles of life came into the universe when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

Heed the warning of God... the warning shown through Christianity. Christianity is the only way to future life. Future life will be fun. But future death will be terrible.

The hope of Christianity is that every one of us will gain the good eternal life. If this is poison for you, then you love death.

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I love life and I agree with Buffer Overflow.  Christianity is an addiction. It poisons your mind.  Makes you a slave to its ideology.
It blames you and makes feel weak, it belittles people, it subjugates people, it discriminates, it is a mind poison on so many levels.

When (if) you free yourself from the shackles of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), you are truly free.  You can think for yourself and evaluate the world the way it is.

People who believe in Christianity are afraid of everything.  They believe in imaginary beings like devil and ghosts.  I are afraid to be alone in the dark or go to the cemetery at night.  Christianity clouds their judgement, it creates an invisible cloak over their mind.

Everything they do or think is in the context of the Christian ideology.  They see God (and/or Devil) in everything and everyone they interact with.  They are brainwashed.  There is no difference between Scientology and Christianity, IMHO.  Fundamentally, they work on the same premise.  You are broken and we are here to fix you, if you follow us and pay a small fee.


Slavery exists throughout the universe without Christianity and without anything we do or say. How does slavery exist? Can you literally, using your own two legs, jump to the moon? If you can, you are probably the only one. If you are not a slave to gravity, then you are a slave to something else, even if it is needing your own brain to stabilize a thinking mind within yourself.

So, true freedom amounts to being able to work harmoniously withing the universe, inside the bonds of your slavery, to allow yourself the most freedom and comfort as possible.

This is what Christianity does for you. Christianity asks you to love all people, to show this love, and it uses the laws of the Old Testament as the guide that shows you the actions you will do to express your love.

Will obeying the laws of the O.T. in the love of the N.T. be beneficial in your freedom? Absolutely, YES! Why? Because then peace-loving people around you will treat you well, because of the good you show them, because of following the laws and love suggestions of Christianity.

In addition, Christianity shows you how to be saved to eternal life, thereby freeing you from the deep bondage/slavery of death. And since it warns about rejecting God, warns about the lake of fire torment such rejection will bring, it frees you from the coming torment, as well, if you accept the freedom.

Pure Christianity is by far the best freedom around. The only time it is not freedom, is when the people who view it would rather have slavery. And even then it is freedom. Why? Because it allows all people the freedom to select slavery if they want.

Now, if that is poison to anyone, he/she has been warped by his/her own evil passions. Slavery is never freedom, but is almost always poison. Christianity offers freedom, so it is absolutely NOT slavery, or poison.

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April 25, 2017, 08:11:38 AM
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I do not believe that religion can help a sick person get healed. Maybe this is the effect of auto-suggestion, in which a person heals himself. Or maybe this god helps a person to be healed. But not religion and religious figures
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April 25, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
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I do not believe that religion can help a sick person get healed. Maybe this is the effect of auto-suggestion, in which a person heals himself. Or maybe this god helps a person to be healed. But not religion and religious figures

In most cases, faith and self-hypnosis help to heal. Religion as a doctor can only advise something, but the main process of healing is in the person himself.
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