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May 17, 2017, 03:20:46 AM
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Metaphysics and God
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2017/05/metaphysics-and-god.html?m=1
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The great need for me, for everyone, is first to know our metaphysical assumptions and then to reflect on them. Nobody is exempt in modern times; because there are so many forces at work to poison our metaphysics. And a poisoned metaphysic will run life, and beyond life.

For many years I didn’t believe in either the importance or even the reality of metaphysical assumptions; I had the idea that we could and should stick to matters of evidence that were applicable to the business of life. For example, science obviously ‘worked’ – so why not just get on with it? It was perhaps when I realised that science no longer worked, and that people were not getting on with it – but doing something almost entirely different and just calling it science – that I began to realise the importance of metaphysics. When it was too late.

But it is at the personal level that assumptions matter most personally. Life has no Meaning when our basic assumption is that Life has no Meaning (but Just Is – and might not have been) – and Life has no Purpose when it is assumed that everything which happens is either passively caused or else random. 

On the other hand; Life feels very different when our metaphysical assumption is that Life is created, and for a reason.



God

I have to start with God. We live in God’s universe; and that is the source of all meaning and purpose; and the reason why its meaning and purpose can be known. God is also our Father and we his children: more, he is our loving Father. That is why there is a place for us, it is why we can understand, it is why God made us so that we can understand.

This kind of basis is much more essential that most people realise. We don’t just need an idea of how things are, but how it is that we are able to know how things are. At bottom; we need at least two things: a description of the ultimate realities – and we need assurance that this description is true.

First we formulate the description of ultimates… then what? Then we seek validation by means of what counts at the ultimate validation. What is that? – and is it the same for everybody? We have to stop questioning somewhere and accept  that It Just Is; but how do we know when we could or should stop?

Well, any answer to this question of validation falls into an infinite regress of validation; because it can be (will be) asked why the validation method is itself valid; and any answer to that is subject to the same question… The point is, do we actually want an answer, or do we want to ‘prove’ that an answer is impossible? Because there is an answer, implicit in our behaviour – implicit in our questioning. All questions proceed from assumptions; what are these assumptions?

This is the need for ‘faith’, which is trust. If there is no trust, there are no answers – and there can be no life. The question ‘but who can I trust’ may be answered by the counter-question: ‘who do you trust already?’ Once that is known, then its adequacy may be apparent; we may learn that we are trusting somebody whom we actually – now we think about it – do not trust. (Like when we repeat a story that everybody knows, and argue against an experienced and knowledgeable friend who asserts something else; then realise that our information came originally from a newspaper. Knowing the basis of our assumption, we can then ask: do we trust the friend or the newspaper. But we can only ask this question when we know the nature and source of our assumption.)

There is a cynical pose (most people have adopted it at some time) which effects to doubt all and everything. In practice, when assumptions are exposed and traced, cynicism is either the grossest credulity or more often a false argument used to demolish only that which the cynic wishes to deny (such as a limitation on his desired behaviour).

But, as well as the cynic, there is the despairing doubter – who lives on the verge of paralysis due t uncertainties concerning the validity of… everything. The despairing doubter is transfixed by the possibility that life may really, behind everything – and whether or not this could ever be known, have no meaning or purpose or relevance to us. The despairing doubter is not, fundamentally concerned with the status of knowledge claims or the validity of ultimate descriptions; he is simply unsure about everything – lacks any inner sense of reality.

Whether the despairing doubter actually exists in a full and coherent form is doubtful, but a tinge or tendency of this is characteristic. Yet how seldom is this taken seriously – least of all by its sufferers! The doubts extend to doubting the doubts – such that nothing is done about them, nothing is done about trying to settle the doubts…

Clearly a pathological state; yet common, mainstream, almost universal as at least a fleeting experience. It was the problem that CG Jungs wealthy and leisured private patients often consulted him about, and which he tried to solve by going back to childhood or dream instincts, and building upon them; finding something – some activity, like playing with mud, or sketching pictures - that was apparently self-validating, and using this as a foundation to build upon.

But in the end Jung came back to God; and late in his life he was clearly religious, a kind of Christian; and said that he ‘knew’ the truth of God (did not ‘believe’, but knew). His earlier and more therapeutic answers had proven insufficient, or else his later knowledge rendered them unnecessary.

At any rate, I think we need to know of the reality of God, and of his nature; and we need to know this for ourselves – it is not something that can be learned from others, or taken on trust. We need to know – and what that means, what that implies, is individual and indefensible because it is the basis of other knowledge.  But that is what we need to do, and we therefore need to keep working on it – making it our priority – until it is achieved and we know the reality of God.

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Women Now Take Abortion Pills At Home
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/women-safely-take-abortion-pills-home-online-consult-n760576
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Medical abortions done at home with online help and pills sent in the mail appear to be just as safe as those done at a clinic, according to a new study.

The research tracked the outcomes of 1,000 women in Ireland and Northern Ireland, who used a website run by a group called Women on Web to get abortion pills.


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The Netherlands-based nonprofit provides advice and pills to women seeking an early abortion in more than 140 countries where access to abortion is restricted. Ireland and Northern Ireland have some of the world's strictest laws, often only granting approval when a woman's life is at risk.

To use the service, women complete an online form, which is reviewed by a doctor. They are sent two drugs in the mail — mifepristone and misoprostol — and given instructions on how to take the pills, which have been used since 1988 to induce early abortions. They are later asked to fill out an evaluation form.

About 95 percent of the women in the study reported successfully ending their pregnancy; nearly all were less than nine weeks pregnant at the time of the online consultation. The researchers said less than 10 percent reported symptoms of a potentially serious complication like very heavy bleeding, fever or persistent pain, comparable to the rates for women who seek medical abortions at clinics where abortion is legal.

Seven women needed a blood transfusion and 26 received antibiotics. No deaths were reported. Follow-up information was missing for about one-third of the 1,636 women who were sent pills over three years, so some complications may have been missed.
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"Women are very capable of managing their own abortions and they're able to determine themselves when they need to seek medical attention."

Other experts agreed the study shows how women might be able to safely sidestep restrictive abortion laws.

"This undermines the efficacy of these laws and leaves them unenforceable," said Bernard Dickens, a professor emeritus of health law and policy at the University of Toronto, who co-wrote an accompanying commentary. He cited a number of legal loopholes that would make it difficult to prosecute people helping women have an abortion at home.

Aiken said the website does not operate in the U.S. but that a telemedicine study of the abortion pill is underway.

Linda Kavanath, a spokeswoman for the Abortion Rights Campaign in Ireland, said women should be reassured about the safety of doing a medical abortion on their own

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May 17, 2017, 07:00:41 PM
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Are Abortion Reversals Science Or Scam?
Hundreds of children may owe their lives to a promising new medical protocol called abortion reversal, which may increase in demand due to the new ten-week abortion pill

https://thefederalist.com/2017/05/16/abortion-reversals-science-scam/
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How We Got Pill-Induced Abortions
Abortion reversal refers to halting a chemical abortion, an abortion caused by ingesting a drug. The abortion pill first made headlines when the French government approved RU-486 for sale in 1988. In September 1990, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the abortion pill to terminate pregnancies up to seven weeks old. Then in 2016, the FDA expanded the label to include terminating pregnancies up to ten weeks.

Sold in the United States under the brand name Mifeprex and generically known as mifepristone, the abortion pill, as the FDA explained, “is used, together with another medication called misoprostol, to end an early pregnancy.” Mifeprex, which is taken first, binds to a woman’s progesterone receptors, blocking progesterone from the uterine lining. Progesterone deficiency causes the uterine lining to break down, depriving the embryo of the nutrients necessary to live.

Twenty-four to forty-eight hours later, the woman takes the second drug, misoprostol. This drug induces uterine contractions, which expel the now-dead embryo (or fetus, depending on the stage of human development, as Mifeprex is also used off-label for second-trimester abortions). While French pharmaceutical company Roussel-Uclaf developed Mifeprex to cause abortions, first testing its chemical actions in vitro (in labs) and later running clinical trials, the abortion reversal protocol developed by happenstance, necessity—and prayer.

‘There’s Nothing You Can Do’
The story begins in North Carolina in 2007, in the family practice of Dr. Matthew Harrison. A patient sought Harrison’s help in stopping the abortive effects of Mifeprex. Harrison said that at the abortion clinic, “they gave her no hope. They said, ‘There’s nothing you can do; you have to complete this procedure.’”

As Harrison later recounted, he stepped out of the exam room then “said a prayer and started looking through books and thinking about how RU-486 works…It essentially just blocks the progesterone receptors and starves the baby. Harrison then immediately took some progesterone he had on hand for fertility treatments and, after informing the mother that the treatment might not work, injected her with the hormone.”

The unborn baby survived, and half-a-dozen months later the first known woman treated with the abortion reversal protocol gave birth to a healthy baby girl.

Two years later, on the other side of the country, Dr. George Delgado made the same deduction after receiving an urgent request for help from a friend. The friend had fielded a desperate call on a pregnancy helpline from a woman who had begun the chemical abortion process by ingesting Mifeprex, but now wished to carry her baby to term.

As the Indianapolis Star explained: “Delgado had frequently prescribed progesterone to women at risk of miscarrying. Knowing of mifepristone’s progesterone-blocking properties, Delgado calculated that adding progesterone into the system could counteract the drug’s effect. From his southern California offices, he located a doctor in El Paso who agreed to treat the woman. Her child is now about 7 years old …Word got out, and Delgado started receiving more calls about the procedure.”

The Abortion Pill Reversal Program Is Born
With interest in the abortion reversal protocol growing, doctors Delgado, Harrison, and Mary Davenport established the Abortion Pill Reversal program in 2012, operating within the Culture of Life Family Services, a nonprofit organization in San Diego, California. The Abortion Pill Reversal program maintains a website and a 24/7 hotline. When women call, a medical professional answers and, if the caller chooses, Delgado’s team helps connect her with a local doctor for treatment.

In 2012, Delgado and Davenport published a paper in the Annals of Pharmacotherapy, a peer-reviewed journal. It reported the results of Delgado’s protocol, noting that four out of six women who had undergone treatment with progesterone after ingesting mifepristone successfully carried their babies to term.

With the publication of their article and establishment of the webpage, the abortion pill reversal protocol began receiving growing attention within the pro-life medical community. As the IndyStar reported, while originally a small operation, the program now connects women worldwide to a network of more than 350 physicians. These doctors have treated more than 300 women and the abortion reversal protocol boasts a 60-70 percent success rate.
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While state lawmakers continue to grapple with the issue, scientific knowledge will continue to advance. A follow-up journal article by Delgado detailing the continued success of the abortion reversal protocol is expected soon. While critics denounced his initial case study, given the limited number of patients treated off-label with progesterone, this article will include more than 300 patients and report a success rate in the 60-70 percent range.
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abortion advocates have painted the abortion-reversal protocol as dangerous and doctors prescribing progesterone as conducting unethical studies on human subjects with no oversight
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How abortion activists respond to further scientific evidence supporting the reversal protocol will be telling. Will they continue to deprive women who choose no longer to abort of information indicating that progesterone improves the chance their babies will survive? If so, it will continue to show the Left is not just anti-science but anti-choice and anti-life.

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Health and religion are closely connected. If someone are capable of following religious principle then health would be Hazard less, every religion offer a pleasant routine for human being.
Religion principle suggest us to live in a happy life. early rise, prayer, seeking work for surviving and come back to family after completing work. All these things suggested by religion.
Mental health is the key of leading healthy life. So religious principle should be followed.
Can in fact still remember some rites and strict fasts in Orthodoxy, then at least starvation benefit brings health. But if you look to all the servants of the Church who have a weight of Not less than 100 kilograms, you begin to doubt their devotion to religion.
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Health and religion are closely connected. If someone are capable of following religious principle then health would be Hazard less, every religion offer a pleasant routine for human being.
Religion principle suggest us to live in a happy life. early rise, prayer, seeking work for surviving and come back to family after completing work. All these things suggested by religion.
Mental health is the key of leading healthy life. So religious principle should be followed.
Can in fact still remember some rites and strict fasts in Orthodoxy, then at least starvation benefit brings health. But if you look to all the servants of the Church who have a weight of Not less than 100 kilograms, you begin to doubt their devotion to religion.

That's only because of all the contraceptives. Most adults are heavier than 100kg. Lack of kids increases the percent of people over 100kg. And true. No kids is generally something not taught by the religion.

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Health and religion are closely connected. If someone are capable of following religious principle then health would be Hazard less, every religion offer a pleasant routine for human being.
Religion principle suggest us to live in a happy life. early rise, prayer, seeking work for surviving and come back to family after completing work. All these things suggested by religion.
Mental health is the key of leading healthy life. So religious principle should be followed.
Can in fact still remember some rites and strict fasts in Orthodoxy, then at least starvation benefit brings health. But if you look to all the servants of the Church who have a weight of Not less than 100 kilograms, you begin to doubt their devotion to religion.

That's only because of all the contraceptives. Most adults are heavier than 100kg. Lack of kids increases the percent of people over 100kg. And true. No kids is generally something not taught by the religion.

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Well, if you have such an approach, that is a little bit small amendment because it does not always happen everywhere. at
 Difference from the Orthodox, Catholics who give the Covenant of Celibacy, Orthodox live a full life in marriage and at the same time are overweight.

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May 18, 2017, 02:49:42 AM
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Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure
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Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure

And mostly the religion of atheism. They trust blindly in science to keep them alive, but there is no evidence that science can do this.

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A random moment of wonder

Improvisation at the train station in Paris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_NYya-WWg&list=RDxctzp0dp9uc&index=4

(Best part starts around 2:08)

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Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure

And mostly the religion of atheism. They trust blindly in science to keep them alive, but there is no evidence that science can do this.

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Kirch speaks like dirty communist from USSR.

Perhaps he could tell us what point of life there is without any faith at all. Communists more often than not become nihilists aswell taking pleasure at making life of others living hell.

Every single civilization in history had culture, that was shaped by moral compass in form of religion. Now, these retards want to repeat mistakes of man killed by syphilis over 90 years ago. Is west really so decadent?
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Religion is poison. They are reasoned by books that have no evidence or witness. and i don't know if there are any cure

And mostly the religion of atheism. They trust blindly in science to keep them alive, but there is no evidence that science can do this.

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Kirch speaks like dirty communist from USSR.

Perhaps he could tell us what point of life there is without any faith at all. Communists more often than not become nihilists aswell taking pleasure at making life of others living hell.

Every single civilization in history had culture, that was shaped by moral compass in form of religion. Now, these retards want to repeat mistakes of man killed by syphilis over 90 years ago. Is west really so decadent?

To continue what Okurkabinladin is saying... Trust is a form of faith that everyone knows about instinctively. When people come close to forgetting about trust/faith, something usually happens to them that reminds them.

Trust/faith in what? In the fact that they have no control over anything in their lives.

"But I do have control. I mean, I can walk where I want to walk, talk what I want to talk, even get a gun and shoot it (even if by illegal means)." Except that this is the current state of the universe. It's called order and peace. But just to show that you don't have control, look at the many things that happened to you without your expecting it. Some of them were even against what you wanted. Some of them were even bad.

Think of car accidents where people die. They didn't want it to happen. And if they knew that their actions of driving that day were going to kill them, they wouldn't have taken off that day.

None of us has any control over things. Rather, it is the order in the universe that gives peace. That order is controlled by God through cause and effect.

The point is that we all live by faith, the trust kind of faith. We have faith that things will go on hopefully for our good. But we don't know, because we don't control. We see that we don't control every time we are a little surprised by something. If we were smart, we would consider humbly appealing to God with deep respect for Him.

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I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.
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Look at this example - Big Bang Theory. One of the greatest flaws in BB is that known history shows changes. There have been volcanoes, hurricanes, Pangea, and any other number of great changes over the earth at many times. We do not know for certain that, if indeed the universe is 13 - 14 billion years old, there weren't many physics changes throughout the universe, that happened over time, that changed the course of the universe in ways undreamed of, so that BB is entirely false. We just don't know. Big Bang will never be proven to have existed.

There is one thing that is as solid as we can get. It is history written down and passed down from ancestors to descendants with stubborn faithfulness. This is the Bible record. We can show that the record has not changed over 2,000 years with the Dead Sea Scrolls.

In addition, there are in the range of 25,000 hand-copied ancient Old Testaments, from 2,000 years ago or earlier, that all match. Who in the world is going to make all these copies and preserve them for this long of a time, except that there is power and truth in it? There is nothing like it in any other writing from the ancient peoples, be they stone carvings, or standard parchment/paper copies.

But this isn't all. Even our science has combined the scientific laws of cause and effect with the knowledge we have of the various dimensions. These two things alone show us that everything is caused, that there is no random activity, but that the causes can change from the beginning when things were started.

This means that the past of our lives can be changed by cause and effect programming so that we are continually living in different timelines while only remembering the one we are currently in. Why only remember this one? Because the changes are being made from the Beginning, so that there is only this one, until the next change. Then there will only be that one, and we will only have memory of it, until the following change.

The fact that there is intelligence and other great complexity, through cause and effect, means that the cause and effect Programmer is so great that It is nothing other than God. It also shows us that God is so great that that He can manipulate even the cause and effect that go through all time from the beginning.

Not only is there God, but He is way beyond anything we consider in power, or could dream of if we considered the wildest that our imaginations could come up with.

To remain on-topic, God is even far greater than all this. He "swims" through the dimensions and the universe, answering prayers and simple desires, because it is the way He is. He maintains health, or destroys it, all according to the power He has placed within the universe. He even seems to contradict Himself without contradiction Himself in the least; we are so limited in understanding that we think He contradicts Himself.

Stick to the Bible. Trust in God. His strength and finesse are beyond understanding. He will help you with your health. But, because of the state of affairs of sinful and wicked people, we won't exist in His salvation until the New Universe... even though we see that salvation coming, from this side of it. Jesus!

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I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.

And another option is possible, that our descendants will be able to prove the existence of the gods and will laugh at us for the fact that we could not do this.

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I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.

And another option is possible, that our descendants will be able to prove the existence of the gods and will laugh at us for the fact that we could not do this.

Of course, we already proved the existence of God:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Why would our descendants be any more honest by admitting it when we don't seem to want to?

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I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.

And another option is possible, that our descendants will be able to prove the existence of the gods and will laugh at us for the fact that we could not do this.

Of course, we already proved the existence of God:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Why would our descendants be any more honest by admitting it when we don't seem to want to?

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I take a bit of time away and BADecker is still quoting himself.

Oh well, it's another reason to have a drink!

Out of curiosity.... has anyone else quoted your links yet, or does everyone else know your links are full of shit.
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May 28, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
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@ BADecker

I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.

And another option is possible, that our descendants will be able to prove the existence of the gods and will laugh at us for the fact that we could not do this.

Of course, we already proved the existence of God:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Why would our descendants be any more honest by admitting it when we don't seem to want to?

Cool

I take a bit of time away and BADecker is still quoting himself.

Oh well, it's another reason to have a drink!

Out of curiosity.... has anyone else quoted your links yet, or does everyone else know your links are full of shit.

I see you haven't become any smarter while you were away. You still can't refute or rebut the science that God exists, and that everything exists because of God.

Turn to God, now, while you still have time, and save yourself from your own demise.

Cool

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May 28, 2017, 04:17:27 PM
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Religion disciplines the person in everything - in food, in thought and in lifestyle. This gives a positive effect. A person cares about his life and his health. Therefore, it may be indirect, but religion affects human health
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May 29, 2017, 09:53:57 AM
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@ BADecker

I hope I'm not off topic, but here are my two cents :

Over the ages, Gods of all sorts always been an excuse for things humans didn't understood (yet) Ra was rising the sun, Thor the lighting , etc.. etc..
Since then, everytime we learned more about our physical world, those went from gods to mythology. I takes time for sure to people abandon their faith, but History is nothing but proof that a lot of religions had their particular era. Major modern religions are not different , they are just living mythologies, followed by people who rectracted in the last and tiny bubble of unknown about our reality.

When our late descendants will study our era they will mock us and find us primitive.

And another option is possible, that our descendants will be able to prove the existence of the gods and will laugh at us for the fact that we could not do this.

Of course, we already proved the existence of God:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Why would our descendants be any more honest by admitting it when we don't seem to want to?

Cool

I take a bit of time away and BADecker is still quoting himself.

Oh well, it's another reason to have a drink!

Out of curiosity.... has anyone else quoted your links yet, or does everyone else know your links are full of shit.

I see you haven't become any smarter while you were away. You still can't refute or rebut the science that God exists, and that everything exists because of God.

Turn to God, now, while you still have time, and save yourself from your own demise.

Cool

Your links have been rebutted and refuted many times.

The only person who doesn't believe that is you.

Wake up before it's too late!
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