Health and Religion

[marilyngroom]

I find higher IQ people to be better well adjusted, and healthier. They have a better understanding of nutrition, while lower IQ people are more prone to go by what feels good. I can see how higher IQ people will have members that have problems like depression and all, since they are less likely to be in la la land, and mindlessly find pleasure in fantasies. But the OP takes it to mean that all higher IQ people suffer from such things.

Higher IQ people tend to be more well-adjusted in society because they are more deeply indoctrinated, they typically do not perform as well outside of their element.
Because knowledge is not perfect/comprehensive, the 'edge' they hold over lower IQ people is true only within the human world. In a bigger picture, there is no difference between higher and lower IQ people because they are both flawed.
However, the modern world is a design/vision of intelligence first and foremost, it is only natural that higher IQ people are celebrated in society.
It's just a shame that lower IQ people are not recognized for their actual worth and contribution to human progress. Having easier access to "la la land" means that their minds are more flexible, more accommodating of new ideas, this complements the rigidness of sharp traditional intelligence.
Human intelligence is a lot more vulnerable/fragile than people think and this is because knowledge has yet to encompass everything.
For intelligent people, not being able to figure out the why's and how's can be downright scary. Not so much for less intelligent people, they help take some of the edge off the unknown. The less intelligent is somewhat of a muse to the intelligent.

Higher IQ people are more creative and open minded than low IQ people, and have more common sense. Not saying that it makes them more special, just that it is what it is.

This is why it is easier for higher IQ people to be more easily and deeply deceived by those high IQ people who are deceptive.

No, most people, the vast majority. 95% are dumb, and the dumber you are, the easier it is to deceive a person. The easier it is to read others. It's not rocket science.

[BADecker]

I find higher IQ people to be better well adjusted, and healthier. They have a better understanding of nutrition, while lower IQ people are more prone to go by what feels good. I can see how higher IQ people will have members that have problems like depression and all, since they are less likely to be in la la land, and mindlessly find pleasure in fantasies. But the OP takes it to mean that all higher IQ people suffer from such things.

Higher IQ people tend to be more well-adjusted in society because they are more deeply indoctrinated, they typically do not perform as well outside of their element.
Because knowledge is not perfect/comprehensive, the 'edge' they hold over lower IQ people is true only within the human world. In a bigger picture, there is no difference between higher and lower IQ people because they are both flawed.
However, the modern world is a design/vision of intelligence first and foremost, it is only natural that higher IQ people are celebrated in society.
It's just a shame that lower IQ people are not recognized for their actual worth and contribution to human progress. Having easier access to "la la land" means that their minds are more flexible, more accommodating of new ideas, this complements the rigidness of sharp traditional intelligence.
Human intelligence is a lot more vulnerable/fragile than people think and this is because knowledge has yet to encompass everything.
For intelligent people, not being able to figure out the why's and how's can be downright scary. Not so much for less intelligent people, they help take some of the edge off the unknown. The less intelligent is somewhat of a muse to the intelligent.

Higher IQ people are more creative and open minded than low IQ people, and have more common sense. Not saying that it makes them more special, just that it is what it is.

This is why it is easier for higher IQ people to be more easily and deeply deceived by those high IQ people who are deceptive.

No, most people, the vast majority. 95% are dumb, and the dumber you are, the easier it is to deceive a person. The easier it is to read others. It's not rocket science.

High IQ people are simply people. They have needs and desires just like low IQ people. They might not be taken in by Nigerian email scams, but they are taken in by scams of people who are of even higher IQ than they are. Look at all the people of high IQ who have fallen for the Big Bang Theory and the Black Hole Theory scams.

[marilyngroom]

I find higher IQ people to be better well adjusted, and healthier. They have a better understanding of nutrition, while lower IQ people are more prone to go by what feels good. I can see how higher IQ people will have members that have problems like depression and all, since they are less likely to be in la la land, and mindlessly find pleasure in fantasies. But the OP takes it to mean that all higher IQ people suffer from such things.

Higher IQ people tend to be more well-adjusted in society because they are more deeply indoctrinated, they typically do not perform as well outside of their element.
Because knowledge is not perfect/comprehensive, the 'edge' they hold over lower IQ people is true only within the human world. In a bigger picture, there is no difference between higher and lower IQ people because they are both flawed.
However, the modern world is a design/vision of intelligence first and foremost, it is only natural that higher IQ people are celebrated in society.
It's just a shame that lower IQ people are not recognized for their actual worth and contribution to human progress. Having easier access to "la la land" means that their minds are more flexible, more accommodating of new ideas, this complements the rigidness of sharp traditional intelligence.
Human intelligence is a lot more vulnerable/fragile than people think and this is because knowledge has yet to encompass everything.
For intelligent people, not being able to figure out the why's and how's can be downright scary. Not so much for less intelligent people, they help take some of the edge off the unknown. The less intelligent is somewhat of a muse to the intelligent.

Higher IQ people are more creative and open minded than low IQ people, and have more common sense. Not saying that it makes them more special, just that it is what it is.

This is why it is easier for higher IQ people to be more easily and deeply deceived by those high IQ people who are deceptive.

No, most people, the vast majority. 95% are dumb, and the dumber you are, the easier it is to deceive a person. The easier it is to read others. It's not rocket science.

High IQ people are simply people. They have needs and desires just like low IQ people. They might not be taken in by Nigerian email scams, but they are taken in by scams of people who are of even higher IQ than they are. Look at all the people of high IQ who have fallen for the Big Bang Theory and the Black Hole Theory scams.

I see. You're just 100% convinced of conspiracy theories, and anyone who believes in things that you're 100% convinced are false are wrong, because you must be convinced by your religion that you're 110% right.

[DZU1410]

Personally I do not believe that religion could somehow affect human health. But people can convince themselves in all sorts of miracles. Therefore, religious people think that it is God who makes them healthy

[Prohodimec]

This is all nonsense. There is no connection between these concepts. Health depends on the way of life and genetics. Religion is not involved in the formation of immunity rights.

[CoinCube]

Personally I do not believe that religion could somehow affect human health. But people can convince themselves in all sorts of miracles. Therefore, religious people think that it is God who makes them healthy

Do you also believe religion has no effect on human behavior? If religion improves behavior then it can improve health. I linked to a number of studies showing religion is highly correlated with health upthread. However, for those uninterested in long research papers here is a short news article on the topic.

https://www.localxpress.ca/local-news/studying-the-link-between-religion-and-health-419810

Why do people who subscribe to religion tend to live longer than the rest of us?

That’s a question Zachary Zimmer, Mount Saint Vincent University’s new Canada research chair in global aging and community, is attempting to answer with a global study looking at data from the United States, Europe and Asia.

“People who are religious tend to live longer and be healthier than people who are not,” Zimmer told Local Xpress.

“Most of this comes from studies that have been conducted in the United States. In places where different kinds of religions are predominant, there hasn’t been as much research.”

One year into the three-year project, he hopes to eventually determine whether the same trend bears out around the world, including Canada.

“What’s not really known is whether this link is, first of all, consistent across different forms of religion, different degrees of religiosity and in different places around the world,” said Zimmer, a Manitoba native who just moved back to Canada after stints in New York, Utah, Nevada and California.

“What we’re looking at particularly in this study is a health outcome that we call health expectancy, which has more to do with quality of life than length of life,” said Zimmer

[CoinCube]

This is all nonsense. There is no connection between these concepts. Health depends on the way of life and genetics. Religion is not involved in the formation of immunity rights.

Here is some reading material to help get you up to sped Prohodimec

In U.S., Very Religious Have Higher Wellbeing Across All Faiths
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152732/religious-higher-wellbeing-across-faiths.aspx

Very religious Americans of all major faiths have higher overall wellbeing than do their respective counterparts who are moderately religious or nonreligious. This relationship, based on an analysis of more than 676,000 interviews as part of the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index, is statistically significant after controlling for major demographic and regional variable

Countries with higher levels of atheism also have the highest suicide rates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Europe

In a global study on atheism, sociologist Phil Zuckerman noted that countries with higher levels of atheism also had the highest suicide rates compared to countries with lower levels of atheism. He concludes that correlations does not necessarily indicate causation in either case.[24]

A study on depression and suicide suggested that those without a religious affiliation have a higher suicide attempt rates than those with a religious affiliation.[25]

Belief in God coupled with observance of belief is correlated with numerous positive health outcomes
http://smithandfranklin.com/current-issues/The-Wager-Renewed-Believing-in-God-is-Good-for-You/9/1/40/html
The paper linked to above highlights the multiple studies that show that a belief in God coupled with observance of belief is correlated with numerous health outcomes including:
1) Happiness
2) Physical health
3) Mental health
4) Longevity
5) Stable marital relations

[groll]

This is all nonsense. There is no connection between these concepts. Health depends on the way of life and genetics. Religion is not involved in the formation of immunity rights.

Yes I believe with the way of life and genetics.  But we cannot deny the fact that those who are into religion ate more concious and more caring with their body.  They value their health like they do not smoke and drink.  They ate healthy foods because they believe that it is the temple of God.  Our body is the temple of our God so it is better if we take good care of it.

[BADecker]

I find higher IQ people to be better well adjusted, and healthier. They have a better understanding of nutrition, while lower IQ people are more prone to go by what feels good. I can see how higher IQ people will have members that have problems like depression and all, since they are less likely to be in la la land, and mindlessly find pleasure in fantasies. But the OP takes it to mean that all higher IQ people suffer from such things.

Higher IQ people tend to be more well-adjusted in society because they are more deeply indoctrinated, they typically do not perform as well outside of their element.
Because knowledge is not perfect/comprehensive, the 'edge' they hold over lower IQ people is true only within the human world. In a bigger picture, there is no difference between higher and lower IQ people because they are both flawed.
However, the modern world is a design/vision of intelligence first and foremost, it is only natural that higher IQ people are celebrated in society.
It's just a shame that lower IQ people are not recognized for their actual worth and contribution to human progress. Having easier access to "la la land" means that their minds are more flexible, more accommodating of new ideas, this complements the rigidness of sharp traditional intelligence.
Human intelligence is a lot more vulnerable/fragile than people think and this is because knowledge has yet to encompass everything.
For intelligent people, not being able to figure out the why's and how's can be downright scary. Not so much for less intelligent people, they help take some of the edge off the unknown. The less intelligent is somewhat of a muse to the intelligent.

Higher IQ people are more creative and open minded than low IQ people, and have more common sense. Not saying that it makes them more special, just that it is what it is.

This is why it is easier for higher IQ people to be more easily and deeply deceived by those high IQ people who are deceptive.

No, most people, the vast majority. 95% are dumb, and the dumber you are, the easier it is to deceive a person. The easier it is to read others. It's not rocket science.

High IQ people are simply people. They have needs and desires just like low IQ people. They might not be taken in by Nigerian email scams, but they are taken in by scams of people who are of even higher IQ than they are. Look at all the people of high IQ who have fallen for the Big Bang Theory and the Black Hole Theory scams.

I see. You're just 100% convinced of conspiracy theories, and anyone who believes in things that you're 100% convinced are false are wrong, because you must be convinced by your religion that you're 110% right.

You might be somewhat right about this that you say. But it wasn't at all what we are talking about.

Big Bang and Black Hole should not even be theories. Why not? Because there is no way to prove that they are wrong or right, and never will be, at least not with science. It is the same with multitudes of theories, like Gravity Theory and E=MC² and the Theory of Evolution. Yet there are very intelligent people who believe these theories are truth, and live and talk like they are.

The reverse of this is that science has proven that God exists. It has been proven almost exclusively by cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. In addition, the fact of the machinery of nature upholds and enhances the scientific proof for God. Yet there are a lot of very intelligent people who simply will not look at nature or the scientific proof for God and accept that He exists.

This being the case, what good is high IQ? It has its place, but should be limited to practical usage. Let the lower IQ people express what the truth is, because they recognize it a lot better than the higher IQ people.

[CoinCube]

Syphilis is making a comeback among millennials, thanks to Tinder
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/30/syphilis-making-comeback-among-millenials-thanks-tinder/

According to a new report issued by the Centers for Disease Control, there has been a 19 percent spike in the number of cases of syphilis from the previous year with most cases happening among 15-24 year-olds, the New York Post reported.

The reason for this spike, experts say, is because of the “Tinder effect,” or the idea that casual anonymous sex is easier because of online hookup sites like Tinder.

The AIDS Healthcare Foundation (AHF) in 2015 put up billboards in California encouraging users of dating apps such as Tinder and Grindr to get tested for sexually transmitted diseases.

Tinder wrote a letter in response urging AHF to take down the ads.

“These unprovoked and wholly unsubstantiated accusations are made to irreparably damage Tinder’s reputation in an attempt to encourage others to take an HIV test offered by your organization,” the letter read. “While Tinder strongly supports such testing, the billboard’s statements are not founded upon any scientific evidence and are incapable of withstanding critical analysis.”

Earlier this year, Tinder added an STD testing locator to its app

[Bitcoingiver]

This definitions depends on how we understand it.

[slaz26]

everyone believes in the miracles which wants to believe. Many stories about the healing of the sick, who allegedly helped the church. But I do not believe it. I think that the way health is not related to religion

[BADecker]

This definitions depends on how we understand it.

Please explain which definitions you are referring to.   

[BADecker]

everyone believes in the miracles which wants to believe. Many stories about the healing of the sick, who allegedly helped the church. But I do not believe it. I think that the way health is not related to religion

If there weren't any miracles, the Church would never have gotten any start. Why not? Because people do good to other people without the Church. There is no reason to have a Church without the miracles making it strong.

Islam is the other way. Islam doesn't have any miracles. But Islam is strong because of the Stockholm syndrome. Muslims make captives of other people. If the people don't convert to Islam, ultimately they kill them.

In cases where the other people are of a strong nation like America, the Muslims might wait for a long time until they have strength, before they kill the non-Muslims - in America.

[PanZerrr]

everyone believes in the miracles which wants to believe. Many stories about the healing of the sick, who allegedly helped the church. But I do not believe it. I think that the way health is not related to religion

If there weren't any miracles, the Church would never have gotten any start. Why not? Because people do good to other people without the Church. There is no reason to have a Church without the miracles making it strong.

Islam is the other way. Islam doesn't have any miracles. But Islam is strong because of the Stockholm syndrome. Muslims make captives of other people. If the people don't convert to Islam, ultimately they kill them.

In cases where the other people are of a strong nation like America, the Muslims might wait for a long time until they have strength, before they kill the non-Muslims - in America.

all religions are based on not on miracles, but on legends of miracles. Everything is done in order to attract into its ranks as many people as possible. And then operate them. I do not see any connection between health and religion

[af_newbie]

everyone believes in the miracles which wants to believe. Many stories about the healing of the sick, who allegedly helped the church. But I do not believe it. I think that the way health is not related to religion

If there weren't any miracles, the Church would never have gotten any start. Why not? Because people do good to other people without the Church. There is no reason to have a Church without the miracles making it strong.

Islam is the other way. Islam doesn't have any miracles. But Islam is strong because of the Stockholm syndrome. Muslims make captives of other people. If the people don't convert to Islam, ultimately they kill them.

In cases where the other people are of a strong nation like America, the Muslims might wait for a long time until they have strength, before they kill the non-Muslims - in America.

They have a blind Muhammad flying to heaven on a winged horse in the middle of the night!!!!  That should qualify as a miracle, no?

Just like your favorite fellow who walked on water and turned water into wine....

Every religion myth has miracles....

[BADecker]

everyone believes in the miracles which wants to believe. Many stories about the healing of the sick, who allegedly helped the church. But I do not believe it. I think that the way health is not related to religion

If there weren't any miracles, the Church would never have gotten any start. Why not? Because people do good to other people without the Church. There is no reason to have a Church without the miracles making it strong.

Islam is the other way. Islam doesn't have any miracles. But Islam is strong because of the Stockholm syndrome. Muslims make captives of other people. If the people don't convert to Islam, ultimately they kill them.

In cases where the other people are of a strong nation like America, the Muslims might wait for a long time until they have strength, before they kill the non-Muslims - in America.

They have a blind Muhammad flying to heaven on a winged horse in the middle of the night!!!!  That should qualify as a miracle, no?

Just like your favorite fellow who walked on water and turned water into wine....

Every religion myth has miracles....

But the atheist religion doesn't talk about their miracles.   

[CoinCube]

They have a blind Muhammad flying to heaven on a winged horse in the middle of the night!!!!  That should qualify as a miracle, no?

Just like your favorite fellow who walked on water and turned water into wine....

Every religion myth has miracles....

On Miracles and Faith
http://www.jewishhistory.org/revelation-and-beyond/

Miracles, no matter how spectacular, are not long lasting. Human nature is such that last week’s miracle, no matter how impressive, does not help this week. That is why the foundation of faith has to be based on more than miracles. Miracles alone will not do it.

People harbor the naïve belief that if God will perform miracles then everyone would become believers and all problems would disappear. All of history tells us that that is not true...

Miracles are great but not the basis of religion. Rather, true religion requires an inner commitment and inner strength not built on miracles. Study, education, loyalty and family are the keys to faith.

[Mihho]

I think religious people are healthier due to the fact that they often do not drink alcohol, lead a healthy lifestyle. That is why their body is stronger and more resistant to various viruses

[af_newbie]

I think religious people are healthier due to the fact that they often do not drink alcohol, lead a healthy lifestyle. That is why their body is stronger and more resistant to various viruses

I think religious people are mentally sick.

I don't need religion to tell me what is right or wrong.  I don't drink, smoke or use drugs.  I exercise, eat organic food, take my vitamins every day.  And I certainly do not believe in some made up stories from bronze age or 6th century written by some goat herders for other goat herders.  I have no respect for any religions or people who believe in this shit.

To me, religious people are sick people that should be locked up in mental institutions.  

Religions are just well organized cults.