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May 29, 2017, 04:20:31 PM Last edit: May 29, 2017, 05:43:07 PM by altheshort |
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where are you finding these magical people? You would also start seeing green little people buying all IONs if you just listened to MrCoins with same devotion as paycoiners/ionomists do... https://i.snag.gy/FRVhD6.jpgmrcoins
When ION Pump?
Looking at the ION volume it is clear to see that ION is not yet of interest to traders. Without the volume there is unlikely to be any pump as it's simply too high risk. ION does not necessarily need to be attractive to traders however a high volume will help move IONs from sellers to buyers more quickly thus allowing faster price expansion so it is within our interests to receive a much higher trade volume for this reason alone.
To upgrade ION to a higher trade volume we simply need more awareness and exposure much of which will come with time and trust. At any point a new development could be the spark that ION needs and a single new incoming whale loading up could do that alone, this can often encourage others sitting on the fence to finally make a move.
TeamION do not run a hype-based project and so traders do not get the opportunity to speculate on what is coming or might be coming (as with other altcoins). So we are dependent on real developments and there could be any number of them just around the corner. So I am holding tight.
In my opinion at any moment ION could take off and receive all the interest it needs.
mrcoins | 2 days ago This is the same person who went full drama when I said his/her shilly ION pumping was "shameless". Also same person who said Bittrex may run out of IONs and a bunch of other bullshit about ION and of course Paycoin. But I guess it's a good thing they waste their blind faith on this shitcoin, which is probably less harmful compared to most other cults they could be pulled in with that mindset. Eurgh. Characteristic MrCoins vomit inducing pep talk there. It's funny, I thought the narrative was that this wasn't designed to be a traders coin, no 'pump and dump economics', 'ionomy vision', yada yada. Yet here is a whale essentially admitting that actually they would quite like a timely pump, thanks very much, but don't worry, it's coming 'soom' (cringe). I'm firmly of the opinion that the reason Ion hasn't been picked up is largely because 'Crypto Gravity' was horrifically delayed and then, when it eventually emerged, very underwhelming. There's no momentum behind the project because the team develop things so slowly it allows whatever minor amount of interest they might garner to bleed away out of sheer boredom when it's not followed up. It's unbelievable that the last (and, to date, only) update to 'Crypto Gravity' didn't even contain further levels, for example. Meanwhile the second game, which has been 'about to be in alpha' apparently for a number of weeks now, still seems an age away from release.
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korvas128
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May 29, 2017, 06:38:23 PM |
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No I never...... I don't mind using sats but without looking it up I cannot remember the sats price. Notice though for my 7 day prediction I've gone with $.75 or 71k sats.
this quote is better not like it matters that much. there is no volume people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal
gawsome. lets look at the numbers ion:Projected Daily Income: $12.02 last 24h volume: 1.3 btc (not enough to service all node rewards let alone stakers) no devs hence the clone coin + huge premine for 1 entity dash:Projected Daily Income $25.04last 24h volume: 15,021 btcreal devs, no links to paycoiners and not majority premined where are you finding these magical people? You missed something out ION MN = 20k ION = at market price = $.42 = $8,400 to run a node. DASH MN = 1K = at market price = $114 = $114K to run a node. DASH launched in 2014 & ION launched in 2016. Would you rather spend $114k to get a daily return of $25 or $9k to get a return of $12 If you had a budget of one DASH node you could buy 13 ION nodes and receive a daily income of $156. ION has no devs now your being stupid. The DASH devs like the ION devs are diamonds in turds. The DASH shit was all the scams around Xcoin/Darkcoin coupled with the Instamine problem. When ION hits 3 years old like DASH is today you trolls will be a distant memory
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May 29, 2017, 07:44:03 PM |
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No I never...... I don't mind using sats but without looking it up I cannot remember the sats price. Notice though for my 7 day prediction I've gone with $.75 or 71k sats.
this quote is better not like it matters that much. there is no volume people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal
gawsome. lets look at the numbers ion:Projected Daily Income: $12.02 last 24h volume: 1.3 btc (not enough to service all node rewards let alone stakers) no devs hence the clone coin + huge premine for 1 entity dash:Projected Daily Income $25.04last 24h volume: 15,021 btcreal devs, no links to paycoiners and not majority premined where are you finding these magical people? You missed something out ION MN = 20k ION = at market price = $.42 = $8,400 to run a node. DASH MN = 1K = at market price = $114 = $114K to run a node. DASH launched in 2014 & ION launched in 2016. Would you rather spend $114k to get a daily return of $25 or $9k to get a return of $12 If you had a budget of one DASH node you could buy 13 ION nodes and receive a daily income of $156. ION has no devs now your being stupid. The DASH devs like the ION devs are diamonds in turds. The DASH shit was all the scams around Xcoin/Darkcoin coupled with the Instamine problem. When ION hits 3 years old like DASH is today you trolls will be a distant memory You seem to be missing the entire point of the post. Look at the massive difference in volumes and reread what was stated. Also, the difference in premine was also pointed out. This wasn't just a comparison of daily "theoretical" profit for as cheap as possible.
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May 29, 2017, 08:27:51 PM Last edit: May 29, 2017, 11:36:41 PM by kken01 |
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you won't get a daily return of 12$ since the market won't bear it. the entire 24h volume is not enough to service all the nodes. great, you get 13 nodes and you can liquidate maybe 15% of your daily rewards and watch the price tank. owners have to be real believers and keep the majority of the coins in hopes of a better future => way higher risk. added on top of that their game tanked hard. the underlying business model has no driving force currently - we will see soon with their 2nd game if they learned anything (don't hold your breath). sure i can put my money into HYIPS/ponzi's like scrypt.cc too and hope for the best... they have 1500% daily ROI so does it matter the risk is 1000000x higher is the dash instamine 54%+ of the coin supply that is controlled by 1 entity like it is with ion? i highly doubt it that % is higher now since they stake/node their 54%+ share. they sold some of this via web page PNG's but its probably in the range of few btc. inflation has created ~3.2 million coins so far. if they sold 0 the ionomy team would have generated >1.728 million coins vs the customers <1.472 million. (i'm granting them the assumption that they are not selling their premine for daily costs like they did with paycoin. once there are no ICO funds left they are forced back into it) ion has no real devs hence they had to dump their first coin and move on to the next. they couldn't launch a working coin. even then hiring temp help to get the new coin running. that means there is no competent (coin) dev team. please enlighten us since you are more of an ion expert: point to some new things they have created for the coin? fixing 1 old bug in a shitcoin is not really developing anything imo... i did a quick look at their github and couldn't find anything worth mentioning but please do correct me or is this the part where you say "it's not a crypto project. look at the games"? we are a year into this and here are the results edit: totally forgot they didn't sell all their ICO coins (obviously they pocketed those coins skewing the % even more)
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May 29, 2017, 11:11:31 PM |
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The team got more than 54% I think. Closer to 75% if you include the 2+ million coins they didn't sell via ICO: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg16554577#msg16554577As evidenced by the fact that they haven't touched the bounty addresses even though they're supposed to pay out 1000 ION every week to Gravity players.
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korvas128
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May 29, 2017, 11:38:39 PM |
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you won't get a daily return of 12$ since the market won't bear it. the entire 24h volume is not enough to service all the nodes. great, you get 13 nodes and you can liquidate maybe 15% of your daily rewards and watch the price tank. owners have to be real believers and keep the majority of the coins in hopes of a better future => way higher risk. added on top of that their game tanked hard. the underlying business model has no driving force currently - we will see soon with their 2nd game if they learned anything (don't hold your breath). sure i can put my money into HYIPS/ponzi's like scrypt.cc too and hope for the best... they have 1500% daily ROI so does it matter the risk is 1000000x higher is the dash instamine 54%+ of the coin supply that is controlled by 1 entity like it is with ion? i highly doubt it that % is higher now since they stake/node their 54%+ share. they sold some of this via web page PNG's but its probably in the range of few btc. inflation has created ~3.2 million coins so far. if they sold 0 the ionomy team would have generated >1.728 million coins vs the customers <1.472 million. (i'm granting them the assumption that they are not selling their premine for daily costs like they did with paycoin. once there are no ICO funds left they are forced back into it) ion has no real devs hence they had to dump their first coin and move on to the next. they couldn't launch a working coin. even then hiring temp help to get the new coin running. that means there is no competent (coin) dev team. please enlighten us since you are more of an ion expert: point to some new things they have created for the coin? fixing 1 old bug in a shitcoin is not really developing anything imo... i did a quick look at their github and couldn't find anything worth mentioning but please do correct me or is this the part where you say "its not a crypto project. look at the games"? we are a year into this and here are the results edit: totally forgot they didn't sell all their ICO coins (obviously they pocketed those coins skewing the % even more) You raise a couple of interesting points setting the scene for an interesting discussion but your comments are totally meaningless as your intent is to troll. Me countering your comments is just giving you ammunition to fuel your agenda of ill intent. Ionomy is a long term initiative in which year 1 as been all about building foundations.
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May 29, 2017, 11:47:31 PM Last edit: May 30, 2017, 02:04:37 AM by kken01 |
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great, that's what your fellow paycoiner's said back in 2015 too I'm not sure if this team is even trying to succeed or are they just happy fleecing their flock? looks like Matlack has other pressing ventures in the works anyway
holy hell even worse than i remembered on top of that: shouldn't there be an adult in the room who does the bookkeeping... gawesome blockchain based financial product
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May 30, 2017, 07:50:51 AM |
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you won't get a daily return of 12$ since the market won't bear it. the entire 24h volume is not enough to service all the nodes. great, you get 13 nodes and you can liquidate maybe 15% of your daily rewards and watch the price tank. owners have to be real believers and keep the majority of the coins in hopes of a better future => way higher risk. added on top of that their game tanked hard. the underlying business model has no driving force currently - we will see soon with their 2nd game if they learned anything (don't hold your breath). sure i can put my money into HYIPS/ponzi's like scrypt.cc too and hope for the best... they have 1500% daily ROI so does it matter the risk is 1000000x higher is the dash instamine 54%+ of the coin supply that is controlled by 1 entity like it is with ion? i highly doubt it that % is higher now since they stake/node their 54%+ share. they sold some of this via web page PNG's but its probably in the range of few btc. inflation has created ~3.2 million coins so far. if they sold 0 the ionomy team would have generated >1.728 million coins vs the customers <1.472 million. (i'm granting them the assumption that they are not selling their premine for daily costs like they did with paycoin. once there are no ICO funds left they are forced back into it) ion has no real devs hence they had to dump their first coin and move on to the next. they couldn't launch a working coin. even then hiring temp help to get the new coin running. that means there is no competent (coin) dev team. please enlighten us since you are more of an ion expert: point to some new things they have created for the coin? fixing 1 old bug in a shitcoin is not really developing anything imo... i did a quick look at their github and couldn't find anything worth mentioning but please do correct me or is this the part where you say "its not a crypto project. look at the games"? we are a year into this and here are the results edit: totally forgot they didn't sell all their ICO coins (obviously they pocketed those coins skewing the % even more) You raise a couple of interesting points setting the scene for an interesting discussion but your comments are totally meaningless as your intent is to troll. Me countering your comments is just giving you ammunition to fuel your agenda of ill intent. Ionomy is a long term initiative in which year 1 as been all about building foundations. Wouldn't you, as a whale, want to address said interesting points for the benefit of potential investors that may be looking on? Putting your best foot forward, perhaps? If this thread "isn't worth it", why does the team let it go on?
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May 30, 2017, 02:32:20 PM |
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UP, DOWN or FLAT...... I'll go first and predict UP.... you ?
it's dropped to 0.00017202
I bow to your impeccable market research, industry analysis, and price prediction. Do you have any other wacko bullshit ionomy visions to share with us today? I thought price was irrelevant. Or relevant. I forget which the current narrative is. Good to see they've changed the name of 'To The Moon' to 'The Moon Or Bust' and released a trailer which contains all of no gameplay footage. Another sure fire hit on the way (for 30 people) in about six months, then. Okay as you and suchmoon are trying to set me up for a fall.... Let's play In the next 7 days ION will be at a minimum of $.5 or .00023 BTC and stay there. This prediction is just based on the recent inflation drop and people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal and a breeze to setup. Once you factor in everything else happening in the land of Ionomy you'll see that this is me playing it safe. It would be good to have yours or Suchmoon's prediction but I can understand if you don't want to play, predicting the future is much harder than predicting the past. I guess yesterdays rise which peaked at $.6 was due to another BTC price rise.. When I said 1 week I meant 1 day I misspoke So On the basis of a rumour that Suchmoon and myself could secretly be friends I will change my prediction to.... In the next 7 days Ion will hit a min price of $.75 or 71k sats. And here we are 7 days later. Latest market buy on Bittrex: 05/30/2017 09:26:16 AM BUY 0.00016388 It currently takes <5 BTC to take ION to 0.00000001 sat. Top notch shilling Korvas.
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WildShark
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May 30, 2017, 03:54:08 PM |
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Using your example, option 1 would produce the least amount of money.... When the Bitcoin Balloon Bursts, the BTC will be of no money value.. Just the broken dreams of being rich by holding BTC!!! Will you be holding your bags when the burst happens
2) currently walking away with 75-100% profit converted to USD... not bad money for ROI of PNGs (Ionomy LTD stakers) You seem to be projecting. I don't have "dreams of being rich by holding BTC". And if you think it's gonna burst you could dump it for USD today and you would still have gained more USD over the last year compared to this whole ionomy clusterfuck. I gotta give it to you though - you're consistently defiant of math, facts, or anything else that gets in the way of your shilling. Yours skills of predicting the past are indeed impressive How are your skills of predicting the future UP, DOWN or FLAT...... I'll go first and predict UP.... you ? @suchmoon I don't shill, I work hard everyday at better promoting with facts. 24 Volume is UP and USD price is still going sideways with slight increase...
Here's a graph of the last week.. spot on with my prediction..
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May 30, 2017, 04:06:36 PM |
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24 Volume is UP and USD price is still going sideways with slight increase...
Here's a graph of the last week.. spot on with my prediction.. Sharkie, you need to quit drinking. It's down ~30% for the week. How is that "sideways with slight increase"? Face it, you and korvas and the whole paycoining gang don't have a clue as to what's going on. Wishful thinking is not a substitute for facts.
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May 30, 2017, 04:16:23 PM |
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24 Volume is UP and USD price is still going sideways with slight increase...
Here's a graph of the last week.. spot on with my prediction.. Sharkie, you need to quit drinking. It's down ~30% for the week. How is that "sideways with slight increase"? Face it, you and korvas and the whole paycoining gang don't have a clue as to what's going on. Wishful thinking is not a substitute for facts. Not only that, but poor old Sharky doesn't appear to recall his actual prediction was this: I'm not as optimistic as Korvas128.. The market is holding in the 50s and will hover there this week to gain traction..
Regardless, it's pretty pointless making predictions or really even doing TA on a market this thin, but altcoiners will be altcoiners.
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May 30, 2017, 04:19:11 PM |
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Will be masternodes this project?
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altheshort
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May 30, 2017, 04:22:42 PM Last edit: June 18, 2017, 03:46:46 PM by altheshort |
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Will be masternodes this project?
Already magic coin excreters masternodes this project. Ask Sharky, I'm sure he'll gladly give you some propaganda to digest.
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May 30, 2017, 04:48:33 PM |
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Will be masternodes this project?
Only if you plan on holding every coin the MN shits out. The market is too thin to reap the daily profits the super shills keep bragging about. It would crash the price.
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May 31, 2017, 04:40:40 PM |
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Here's plenty of volume with the price at zero...
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May 31, 2017, 10:55:48 PM |
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What exactly are you trying to show there? Are you saying that every MN owner can dump their daily rewards without affecting the price?
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May 31, 2017, 11:21:59 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:10:40 AM by suchmoon |
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What exactly are you trying to show there? Are you saying that every MN owner can dump their daily rewards without affecting the price?
It looks like some paycoiners are dumping not just their daily rewards but their whole masternodes: Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken imageIn other news, Gravity leaderboard shows 19 players and it's only Wednesday. It may reach 30 by the weekend. Such exiting.
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korvas128
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May 31, 2017, 11:44:13 PM |
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What exactly are you trying to show there? Are you saying that every MN owner can dump their daily rewards without affecting the price?
It looks like some paycoiners are dumping not just their daily rewards but their whole masternodes: In other news, Gravity leaderboard shows 19 players and it's only Wednesday. It may reach 30 by the weekend. Such exiting. Yep your right & good for them they exited at a profit. For those that see potential this is a great opportunity to buy some cheap ION
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