Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[ZedZedNova]

 8.6ish at more like 900w - just take 2/3ds of the TH and watt spec of the S9, then add a few watts 'cause you still have the controller and fans eating the same power.



 Anyone remember what process the 4004 used?

If the Wikipedia entry is correct, the 4004 was 10um (micro-meter). That seems consistent with the previous mention regarding the 8080 earlier in the thread (6 micro-meter).

By today's standards one would have used a hammer and chisel to make those.

to keep on topic: I wonder if the hash rate issues jtoomim is experiencing are heat related? It seems possible as the hash rates came up when the clock rate was decreased.

- zed

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[sidehack]

Probably that, or core voltage as too low. Might have had some under-spec chips on those boards.

[redbluebg]

We are pleased to launch the Antminer S9 Limited Edition with a hashrate of 12.93 TH/s. It is ready to ship immediately upon order confirmation. Antminer S9 is the world's first bitcoin miner based on the 16nm process node ASIC chips.

Due to the high demand and limited quantity of this batch, we advise all interested to place their order at /2o0Wuy]https://[Suspicious link removed]/2o0Wuy while stock lasts.

Regards,

the Bitmain team

I'm sorry, does that mean that everyone who bough a S9-B2 will have to wait until 20th June to get their orders shipped, but those who order now from the third batch will get their orders immediately shipped?

If so, this is unfair.

[Puffy23]

We are pleased to launch the Antminer S9 Limited Edition with a hashrate of 12.93 TH/s. It is ready to ship immediately upon order confirmation. Antminer S9 is the world's first bitcoin miner based on the 16nm process node ASIC chips.

Due to the high demand and limited quantity of this batch, we advise all interested to place their order at /2o0Wuy]https://[Suspicious link removed]/2o0Wuy while stock lasts.

Regards,

the Bitmain team

I'm sorry, does that mean that everyone who bough a S9-B2 will have to wait until 20th June to get their orders shipped, but those who order now from the third batch will get their orders immediately shipped?

If so, this is unfair.

Might be why batch 3 is $100 USD more than batch 2.

[kodokbuduk]

I also wanna buy S9, B3 but the price went up 100$?? better wait then after halving..

[philipma1957]

I also wanna buy S9, B3 but the price went up 100$?? better wait then after halving..

in theory the batch 3 will ship today if you pay today.

while batch 2 ships on the 20th

so for 100 usd  you get it 5 days faster.

it would earn 95 usd in 5 days if you have 10 cent power

it would earn 103 usd in 5 days if you have 5 cent power.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Also note that it has the same # of chips as b1 (189) but runs at a lower clock of 600MHz. Looks like Bitmain decided that the b1's were actually now what they consider as OC'd... Their way of addressing the high chip temps?

Und ja, I ordered 1 of the batch-3's.

Oh, my b1 miner seems to have settled down in it's new home and the overnight avg hash rate as reported by Kano is 13.5THs and checking just now is holding at 13.7 average on the gui. Much better than the barely 13THs it started out at.

[philipma1957]

Also note that it has the same # of chips as b1 (189) but runs at a lower clock of 600MHz. Looks like Bitmain decided that the b1's were actually now what they consider as OC'd... Their way of addressing the high chip temps?

Und ja, I ordered 1 of the batch-3's.

Oh, my b1 miner seems to have settled down in it's new home and the overnight avg hash rate as reported by Kano is 13.5THs and checking just now is holding at 13.7 average on the gui. Much better than the barely 13THs it started out at.

I did your fix using vent filters on the intake side.


http://www.lowes.com/pd/WEB-Web-Vent-Register-Filter/3122205

duct tape.


http://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-1-88-in-x-135-ft-Gray-Duct-Tape/3505480


99% of air gets through .

quite a lot of dust is stopped.

and no train whistle.

under 10 bucks and will do 12 s-9's


625 freq is giving me about  26 to 27 th.

temps are 65-90

earnings are 0.03175 so far.

[sidehack]

So they made sure to dual-FET both high and low sides of the buck switching, which is good considering the high currents they're seeing. The FET section is also heatsinked, I like to see that. I was a bit worried when taking the clock and core up high on my S7LN for "overclock" efficiency tests because I didn't want the transistors to smoke out.

Looks like they upgraded from PIC12F1572 to PIC16F1704 for the regulator control. Still has about a 3600-opcode program on it, probably pretty similar to the stock code in the S7 but this chip has built-in I2C so that actually makes some things a lot easier.

[citronick]

Also note that it has the same # of chips as b1 (189) but runs at a lower clock of 600MHz. Looks like Bitmain decided that the b1's were actually now what they consider as OC'd... Their way of addressing the high chip temps?

Und ja, I ordered 1 of the batch-3's.

Oh, my b1 miner seems to have settled down in it's new home and the overnight avg hash rate as reported by Kano is 13.5THs and checking just now is holding at 13.7 average on the gui. Much better than the barely 13THs it started out at.

I did your fix using vent filters on the intake side.


http://www.lowes.com/pd/WEB-Web-Vent-Register-Filter/3122205

duct tape.


http://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-1-88-in-x-135-ft-Gray-Duct-Tape/3505480


99% of air gets through .

quite a lot of dust is stopped.

and no train whistle.

under 10 bucks and will do 12 s-9's


625 freq is giving me about  26 to 27 th.

temps are 65-90

earnings are 0.03175 so far.

Hi Philip, can you show the pix for - vent filters on the intake side?
3 of my S7s suffered because of dust problems - hat eto have that on the S9. Thanks

[RichBC]

Looks like they upgraded from PIC12F1572 to PIC16F1704 for the regulator control. Still has about a 3600-opcode program on it, probably pretty similar to the stock code in the S7 but this chip has built-in I2C so that actually makes some things a lot easier.

Putting in a PIC with H/W I2C makes a lot of sense, also the new chip has a lot more pins. I wonder if it just does the same job or if they have added any functionality like measuring some parameters and dynamic voltage control? Some how I suspect not.


Rich

[sidehack]

It's got some pretty decent ADCs on there. They might have it calibrate a dynamic voltage setpoint instead of just pushing a hex value and calling it good. That's what I'd do. With that capability you could have a self-optimizing routine kinda like the Avalon4 had.

[ZedZedNova]

Looks like they upgraded from PIC12F1572 to PIC16F1704 for the regulator control. Still has about a 3600-opcode program on it, probably pretty similar to the stock code in the S7 but this chip has built-in I2C so that actually makes some things a lot easier.

data sheet for the new PIC:
http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/PIC16F1704

- zed

[Moria843]

Running S7s in my garage since summer started. Considering S9. Couple basic questions for those who have run both S7s and S9s:

Is the S9 louder than the S7 (same, little louder, much loader)?

Do they put out about the same amount of heat?

Will they run reliably in a 90F ambient environment?

[sidehack]

The one here is in a 90F ambient. PCB temps currently 66,68,69 chip temps 97,100,98 fans 4320 and5280 at 650MHz 13.94TH after one hour.

[philipma1957]

Also note that it has the same # of chips as b1 (189) but runs at a lower clock of 600MHz. Looks like Bitmain decided that the b1's were actually now what they consider as OC'd... Their way of addressing the high chip temps?

Und ja, I ordered 1 of the batch-3's.

Oh, my b1 miner seems to have settled down in it's new home and the overnight avg hash rate as reported by Kano is 13.5THs and checking just now is holding at 13.7 average on the gui. Much better than the barely 13THs it started out at.

I did your fix using vent filters on the intake side.


http://www.lowes.com/pd/WEB-Web-Vent-Register-Filter/3122205

duct tape.


http://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-1-88-in-x-135-ft-Gray-Duct-Tape/3505480


99% of air gets through .

quite a lot of dust is stopped.

and no train whistle.

under 10 bucks and will do 12 s-9's


625 freq is giving me about  26 to 27 th.

temps are 65-90

earnings are 0.03175 so far.

Hi Philip, can you show the pix for - vent filters on the intake side?
3 of my S7s suffered because of dust problems - hate to have that on the S9. Thanks

I am going back to solar array in a few days but I can do a mock up for you.

shot before filter


this is mock up.

 red electrical  tape not duct tape

white piece of felt not 4 inch  by 10 inch  vent filter

and the fan is wrong a silverstone 141  not a bitmaintech tech.
of course a card board box the fan is on is not the s-9
but this is the general idea  in real life the filter is long like the fake photo but pretty much is perfect fit height wise


top view



forward view

[SaBit]

Not sure how to explain this,, it's not actually louder from a normal "machine"  sound,, but it has a much louder "whistle"

Running S7s in my garage since summer started. Considering S9. Couple basic questions for those who have run both S7s and S9s:

Is the S9 louder than the S7 (same, little louder, much loader)?

Do they put out about the same amount of heat?

Will they run reliably in a 90F ambient environment?

[philipma1957]

Not sure how to explain this,, it's not actually louder from a normal "machine"  sound,, but it has a much louder "whistle"

Running S7s in my garage since summer started. Considering S9. Couple basic questions for those who have run both S7s and S9s:

Is the S9 louder than the S7 (same, little louder, much loader)?

Do they put out about the same amount of heat?

Will they run reliably in a 90F ambient environment?

whistle fix is  post right above with these 2 parts.

http://www.lowes.com/pd/WEB-Web-Vent-Register-Filter/3122205

http://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-1-88-in-x-135-ft-Gray-Duct-Tape/50339638


not only will whistle stop you filter out some dust a win win

[jfbbtc]

Hello,  The whistle on the S7's (my B2 s9 ships next week) is caused by an organ pipe effect in the air columns formed by the metal grill.  It can be interrupted and largely silenced by a strip of duct tape along one edge.  Experiment to find the optimal position which doesn't restrict airflow significantly.  A better solution is to remove the grill completely but as these fans can remove a finger, don't do this unless the entire miner is in a sound insulated box and the front fan cannot be accidentally touched.  As the S9 has the same fans and configuration as the S7 I expect this solution will work there as well.  Also, I have replaced the front fans on my s7's with a delta fan described as "the beast" in some ebay ads.  It has a top speed well over 5000 4pm and draws too much current (probably--who wants to risk it?) to power from the controller.)I power it using an extra pcie connector but keep the original connection to the fan connector for the speed control line and the tachometer.  The miners have been perfectly happy at 98F in my garage with a little underclocking. 

jfbbtc

[soyab0007]

what was the prices of batch 1 & batch 2?