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September 21, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
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Dude, you gotta be kidding me.


Nope, not kidding you at all.

Sounds like Byteball is your first attempt at any crypto currency, and you have a lot to learn.

First, you can't go to the store, buy a Monopoly set and then expect the government to give you real money for your monopoly money.
You also can't expect to turn Bitcoin testnet coins into Bitcoin mainnet coins.
And, you also can't expect to turn Byteball test balls into Byteball real balls.

Maybe there is a language barrier here, and if so, then I can completely understand.

Basically, don't run developer code and then expect to get real bytes from fake ones.   Close and delete all that.

Now, install the real wallet and post your address.  It seems you have done this and you were given 50k and 10k bytes.   You can test all you want with that.

If you join the slack channel and simply ask, people will be willing to give you funds to play with.  (Me included - even still will).

1) You do have 60k in the address you posted.
- You say dev wallet, but it appears legit to me: NHH2G675VLQEPVEUK7S5KXSNTZ4HYWOX
https://explorer.byteball.org/#NHH2G675VLQEPVEUK7S5KXSNTZ4HYWOX
(Give me your seed and I will see about recovering those for you / moving them.)  If I can't I will easily double it.

2) I'm sorry.  Never too late to buy them.

3) Did you say you were not getting byteballs from the prior distribution implying you did know about them?


By the way that arise serious question for the developers. Is there another production address identical to this dev address and that somebody get this bytes. I don’t think that this is the case. More probably those two people lost their bytes and nobody get them. If this is the case developers should explain how it is possible that this transaction is verified even if there is no receiver. Who is the owner of this missing byteballs? At least let’s hope that developers can give back those real bytes to the people which sent it to me. 

Very good question.   I will test this myself.

Reminder:   Join slack and say something.  People happily give bytes.  I'll give you some myself.



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September 21, 2017, 05:37:35 PM
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It's only holding on airdrop, and if they a finished, without new bots and huge work this project die. I believed in it and invest a lot of money when price was about 0.20BTC/GByte.  Cry
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September 21, 2017, 06:20:30 PM
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It's only holding on airdrop, and if they a finished, without new bots and huge work this project die. I believed in it and invest a lot of money when price was about 0.20BTC/GByte.  Cry
Once the dumpers are finished, GBYTE will start climbing again. Hold on tight and you will be rewarded handsomly in the near future.
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September 21, 2017, 06:22:46 PM
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It's only holding on airdrop, and if they a finished, without new bots and huge work this project die. I believed in it and invest a lot of money when price was about 0.20BTC/GByte.  Cry

are you not paying attention to all the interesting stuff developing? sure, the price is a disappointment for anyone who got in but stuff like the work with merchants and the increasing number of options in the wallet is very cool.

hold tight and you will be rewarded eventually.
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September 21, 2017, 07:50:41 PM
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When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced
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September 21, 2017, 07:57:20 PM
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When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced

Check out the very first post on the very first page of this thread. Both your questions will be answered.
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September 21, 2017, 07:58:22 PM
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When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced

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What you receive, is proportional to your balances in BTC and Bytes on the Full Moon of November, on November 4, 2017 at 05:23 UTC:
BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 6.25 MB (0.00625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 6.25 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes


The initial post is updated on each airdrop with the dates and distribution numbers.

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September 21, 2017, 08:09:38 PM
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It's only holding on airdrop, and if they a finished, without new bots and huge work this project die. I believed in it and invest a lot of money when price was about 0.20BTC/GByte.  Cry

If the project dies it will be because of people like you, those who consider a new roadmap or any fake hype/marketing an actual "update / development" while you can't even understand what developments are happening. That is why coins without a single commit in a year can actually pump 10-20-30x because all people need is an announcement like new roadmap or soon will release news (one coin tweeted out about "news coming in 48hours" the price trippled and ofc it went back once they realized the news were nothing, "new site design" lol) or shit like hired new devs (when in fact it's just a new github user who does doc/filename renaming and commiting them one by one to make it look like work for noobs). Until the whole mentality of crypto is like this, you can't do shit, the only thing you can do is take the money from idiots and enjoy it, if you try to be honest and legit, this is what happens, you get hundreds of pages on the forum whining about price going down, "why are my free coins worth less? I deserve more. coin is dead" and other bullshits like this.

Lesson-> Never give out valuable stuff for free.

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September 21, 2017, 09:34:40 PM
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Wouldn't it be an idea to have an option in the wallet that upon a payment out, the 'change address' is the original Byteball address that is used for linking in the airdrops? That would avoid people missing airdrops without their knowledge and would make it easier for people to use Byteball more for small transactions, without running into trouble with future airdrops.

Coins like DeepOnion offer this functionality in the wallet software.

This feature was merged in our github a day ago and will be available in the next release.  It will enable what you say, and a few other interesting things.

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September 21, 2017, 11:15:12 PM
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Great project technically sadly silly initial distributional method.

BTC whales are cruel masters but the project has such potential eventually their manipulation will become weaker. hodl in tough times.

chopping the top 2% of btc wallets without announcement on the first drops would have helped a lot.

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September 22, 2017, 12:04:36 AM
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Bytcoin is an exciting project to me, minus some of the distribution concerns, but i'm a crytpo nerd, i eat this stuff for breakfast.

 Can anyone explain to me why someone who doesn't use cryptocurrencies would start using byteball over the far more established projects out there?  The chat format is nice, but a chat program isn't really a draw without the network effect already in place. Who wants to convince their friends to use a new chat program.

Maybe bytecoin should team up with signal, an encrypted chat project which is open source. A kind of partnership with an established network if there could be a way to fuse the two could be a game changer.
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September 22, 2017, 12:50:22 AM
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Great project technically sadly silly initial distributional method.

BTC whales are cruel masters but the project has such potential eventually their manipulation will become weaker. hodl in tough times.

chopping the top 2% of btc wallets without announcement on the first drops would have helped a lot.

I think you should take a look at the top 500 addresses.
Most of them are still within the top 500.
https://byteball.fr/Top500ByteballRichest.php

Meaning, few whales dumped for profit (and those that did are welcome to do so).  I know, because I watch the list to see where I move around based on others buying and selling.  I am on the list (maybe even a few times), but I have never sold a single byte that I received from the distribution (although I've given plenty away for free myself).

People who had bitcoin and held them should be entitled to something.  They've proven they are in crypto for crypto and that they believe in it.  People joining this crypto just to get free money are mostly those that want it free just to dump it.

I agree with you..... hodl in tough times.    Watching the top addresses, you can see that most of them are doing the same thing.

Bytcoin is an exciting project to me, minus some of the distribution concerns, but i'm a crytpo nerd, i eat this stuff for breakfast.

 Can anyone explain to me why someone who doesn't use cryptocurrencies would start using byteball over the far more established projects out there?  The chat format is nice, but a chat program isn't really a draw without the network effect already in place. Who wants to convince their friends to use a new chat program.

Maybe bytecoin should team up with signal, an encrypted chat project which is open source. A kind of partnership with an established network if there could be a way to fuse the two could be a game changer.

This is not Bytecoin (that is a different alt).  This is Byteball.

If you mean Bitcoin, well..... Bitcoin doesn't have Chat, Assets, Bots (gambling, exchanges, insurance, smartcontracts, etc) all built within the client.


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September 22, 2017, 03:17:47 AM
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Watching this activity is almost enough to burn calories.Almost!!!; -)
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September 22, 2017, 05:15:00 AM
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Wouldn't it be an idea to have an option in the wallet that upon a payment out, the 'change address' is the original Byteball address that is used for linking in the airdrops? That would avoid people missing airdrops without their knowledge and would make it easier for people to use Byteball more for small transactions, without running into trouble with future airdrops.

Coins like DeepOnion offer this functionality in the wallet software.

This feature was merged in our github a day ago and will be available in the next release.  It will enable what you say, and a few other interesting things.

oh oooh, sounds good !

Could you say more about the few other interesting things ?
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September 22, 2017, 01:57:38 PM
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This feature was merged in our github a day ago and will be available in the next release.  It will enable what you say, and a few other interesting things.

Xoчeтcя пoжeлaть тeбe нeyгacaющeгo энтyзиaзмa и yдaчи.) Boшлa я в GBYTE нe вoвpeмя, выxoдить yжe тoжe cмыcлa нeт. Taк чтo ocтaeтcя ждaть нaшeгo oбщeгo пpoцвeтaния))

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September 22, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
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This feature was merged in our github a day ago and will be available in the next release.  It will enable what you say, and a few other interesting things.

Xoчeтcя пoжeлaть тeбe нeyгacaющeгo энтyзиaзмa и yдaчи.) Boшлa я в GBYTE нe вoвpeмя, выxoдить yжe тoжe cмыcлa нeт. Taк чтo ocтaeтcя ждaть нaшeгo oбщeгo пpoцвeтaния))

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September 22, 2017, 03:18:51 PM
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Bytcoin is an exciting project to me, minus some of the distribution concerns, but i'm a crytpo nerd, i eat this stuff for breakfast.

 Can anyone explain to me why someone who doesn't use cryptocurrencies would start using byteball over the far more established projects out there?  The chat format is nice, but a chat program isn't really a draw without the network effect already in place. Who wants to convince their friends to use a new chat program.

Maybe bytecoin should team up with signal, an encrypted chat project which is open source. A kind of partnership with an established network if there could be a way to fuse the two could be a game changer.

? Byteball is the only DAG crypto aimed solely at payments.  It's in it's own lane and doesn't have to compete with anyone.  It just needs better marketing as most people do not even know it exists.

Byteball doesn't need to partner with any chat project imo.  You can already send encrypted messages with your payments I think.  With a few tweaks, Byteball will have it's own capabilities in the future for messaging.  I'm sure Tony already has this in the works.

The only things  hindering Byteball as of now is the dumping from the whales due to initial distribution, and the lack of marketing.  These problems will be fixed or dampered as we move towards the end of the airdrop.

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September 22, 2017, 03:29:42 PM
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When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced

Next airdrop, if rules didn't change, will be in 6 October. The reward will be same as the previous one, in September
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September 22, 2017, 03:45:38 PM
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When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced

Next airdrop, if rules didn't change, will be in 6 October. The reward will be same as the previous one, in September

Pretty sure it was already announced that the next airdrop will be done in November.
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September 22, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
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When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced

Next airdrop, if rules didn't change, will be in 6 October. The reward will be same as the previous one, in September

Pretty sure it was already announced that the next airdrop will be done in November.

I don't get why it has to be so difficult to look for the following information. They are also very easy to find: advertised on both the opening page of this thread and on the main website byteball.org where there's also a very nice countdown.
On a completely different note, I do hope that we will be seeing a steady growth in volume before the airdrop. It would be good to go back to 0.15 before that.

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What you receive, is proportional to your balances in BTC and Bytes on the Full Moon of November, on November 4, 2017 at 05:23 UTC:
BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 6.25 MB (0.00625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 6.25 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes

Putting this another way, to receive 1 GB from the distribution, you need to already hold 160 BTC or 10 GB.  These same holdings also give you 2.1111 GBB (giga-blackbyte).

To participate, link your Byteball and Bitcoin addresses before the 10th round:

1.  Download and install the wallet by following the above links.

2.  Start a chat with the Transition Bot (you find it in the Bot Store in the wallet).  Follow the instructions of the Transition Bot to prove your Bitcoin balance.
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