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January 25, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
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Ok, should be fixed now.  Sorry about that.

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January 25, 2012, 04:29:12 PM
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Nice, thanks a lot. Now i can update my scripts.
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January 25, 2012, 08:35:21 PM
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The US3 server has been working great for me.
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January 25, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
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Hey, any reason we have these couple of miners with like 100GH/s who seems to come and go from the pool? Kind of freaks me out. I'm just a noob mostly still so I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but seems odd you would move THAT level of hashing power around all the time unless you were attempting to hop or possibly something more nefarious.

Now maybe just connection issues, etc. but does it freak anyone else out and is there any reason to wonder about this?
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January 25, 2012, 11:29:09 PM
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Well, I suspect it's either a pool hopping aggregation bot (ala GPUMAX, Bithopper or another one of those proxies) or a botnet of somesort... that about the only thing I can figure. 

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January 26, 2012, 03:48:59 AM
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Perhaps a silly idea, but would you consider fundraisers for specific expenses like adding new servers. I'd imagine you'd get extra donations for something like that.

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January 26, 2012, 04:05:31 AM
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I would like to avoid costing the miners anything if possible... I've been so far reluctant to "charge" either in the form of donations or "insurance" or what have you beyond what it costs me to perform those services.  I am, however, looking at possibly having to charge ~0.4% for the NMC to BTC conversion, since I'm losing actually quite a bit on that, given the abysmal NMC rate and the only NMC exchange charges .4% when I exchange it... after NMC goes nowhere but down.  I've actually got close to 20,000 NMC backed up that's been converted at much higher rates than the market right now, so I'm out probably close to 200 BTC after factoring in conversion fee and market drop. 

I was hoping another NMC exchange would pop up and/or the market would be more volatile, but it's pretty stagnant and headed nowhere but down. 

If the time does come that the expenses exceed the benefit, I will see what I can manage as far as my conscience goes with regards to a fund raiser.  Everyone is operating on thin margins as it is, and cutting into profit to mine on a pool is not pleasant for anyone. 

I'd really like to get a stable PoolServerJ or ecoinpool configuration that works with DGM, as I think that would reduce complexity, increase stability and offer a few avenues for expansion that would require minimal fuss.  Ahh if I only had everything to do all over again, so many things I would do different! Smiley


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January 26, 2012, 04:22:32 AM
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I'd really like to get a stable PoolServerJ or ecoinpool configuration that works with DGM, as I think that would reduce complexity, increase stability and offer a few avenues for expansion that would require minimal fuss.  Ahh if I only had everything to do all over again, so many things I would do different! Smiley

I really think you should have a hard look at ecoinpool. All I have been hearing so far is good things, and the language it is written in is even designed with minimal resource usage and scalability built in. However, if you like to write your own pool software, I can certainly understand the hurdle of learning a whole new language Wink

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January 26, 2012, 06:54:11 AM
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I would like to avoid costing the miners anything if possible... I've been so far reluctant to "charge" either in the form of donations or "insurance" or what have you beyond what it costs me to perform those services.  I am, however, looking at possibly having to charge ~0.4% for the NMC to BTC conversion, since I'm losing actually quite a bit on that, given the abysmal NMC rate and the only NMC exchange charges .4% when I exchange it... after NMC goes nowhere but down.  I've actually got close to 20,000 NMC backed up that's been converted at much higher rates than the market right now, so I'm out probably close to 200 BTC after factoring in conversion fee and market drop. 



Is there a way to donate all NMC to the pool automatically?

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January 26, 2012, 10:43:45 AM
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Is there a way to donate all NMC to the pool automatically?
Best I can tell, there isn't a way to donate any NMC to the pool, but if it would be easier for Inaba not to code that (because the effort to wirte code to add a donation feature to NMC might not be worth the NMC it could net even if someone donated 100%), he could post a donation address that is in the same namecoin wallet as these 20000 NMC and people could set their auto-payout to go to that address (or send a percentage to it manually if they wanted to donate less than 100%).  Obviously that wouldn't make sense for BTC, as most people don't put forth extra effort, but those people probably aren't mining NMC anyway, and if they are, they might not really want to donate them.

EDIT:  I forgot auto-pay on NMC could be in BTC, those people might be mining NMC after all, not that it matters if the effort to add more donation code wouldn't be beneficial in general regardless.
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January 26, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
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Hmm yeah I don't have a way to donate NMC directly.  How would people feel about changing the NMC On/Off to just "donating" NMC instead of not mining it?  That would be easy (just remove an if/else) to code.

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January 26, 2012, 02:08:37 PM
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Hmm yeah I don't have a way to donate NMC directly.  How would people feel about changing the NMC On/Off to just "donating" NMC instead of not mining it?  That would be easy (just remove an if/else) to code.
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January 26, 2012, 02:57:37 PM
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Hmm yeah I don't have a way to donate NMC directly.  How would people feel about changing the NMC On/Off to just "donating" NMC instead of not mining it?  That would be easy (just remove an if/else) to code.
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I wouldn't have a problem with this, but you know someone would complain about donatig when they didn't chose to and it wasn't clear upfront (due to them joining before the change).  Moreover, I assume the reason you turn NMC off is  for less longpolls.  As such, users who don't want to mine NMC might complain about the more longpolls (which I assume would technically be doubled even if NMC and BTC difficulty were equal).
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January 26, 2012, 10:07:53 PM
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Hey, you had posted within the first few posts that PPS would become available, but I'm not seeing any option for it.  What gives?

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January 26, 2012, 10:08:43 PM
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I'd be happy to even just turn off merged mining if that helps man. I am also VERY happy to donate the namecoins to the pool for as long it takes and anyone else who bitches can just STFU. They have no idea how little money you are making if ANY on this pool or most pool operators in general. I know some nefarious ops have stolen coins and it appears deepbit, etc. should be doing okay due to volume and guaranteed donations(I don't know that for sure and begrudge NO ONE a profit).

Anyway I think you deserve a sort of "DONATION DRIVE" and I'm starting now. I don't have enough coins to just throw you a stack and have put some serious coin into my farm and just started getting it going(seriously like for 2 days without issue).

I am asking everyone in the pool to up their donation to at least 3% for one week. Come on folks, this is not much for us, but at almost 400 GH/s average at the pool, it's like doubling Inaba's farm for a week. It would give him effectively 12 GH/s of the pools resources(400 x .03) for a week.

You figure if we can have a good week of blocks, we should technically average I think 5 or 6 per day at current difficulty, but let's say we find 50 blocks that week. Inaba would get about 75 coins that week.

I think it would be a cool gesture and something we should all do periodically. For those of you who already donate at that level then kudos to you.

(I have given 1% from the beginning.)

So I'm going to go change mine right now to 3% until next Thursday. I'm not lookin' for props, but urge everyone else to do the same!

I'm also happy to give Inaba permission to look at my accounts and verify that I have done so if he chooses.

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January 26, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
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Hey, you had posted within the first few posts that PPS would become available, but I'm not seeing any option for it.  What gives?

Yeah, as much as I would like to move to PPS, I'm not sure I am prepared to absorb that sort of risk.  To do it right, I'd need about 10,000 BTC to keep in reserve... needless to say, I am not about to give up the Ferrari for that. Smiley  Not saying it's out of the question for the future, but at the moment, I don't want to end up a failed pool due to lack of preparedness.

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Turning off merged mining won't help, might as well keep it on.  Smiley  I've been reluctant to put out "total donations" and any "profit" numbers, because I don't want to look like I'm begging for donations. I appreciate anything anyone is willing to give of their own free will, so I thank you greatly for that!  As long as the bills get paid, the lights will stay on, not really about profit for me... I don't expect to get that Ferrari like Tycho and Eluthuria have anytime soon.




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January 26, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
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I keep  meaning to ask, and keep forgetting, two things:

1) What is the "avg donation" on the donation column?  I thought it was my donation averaging into the 50 blocks displayed, and it seems to mostly go up which would make that make sense, but I saw it drop once.

2) I know you said the vs prop numbers didn't mean much on individual blocks, but I have been mining steady for ~the past 50 blocks (counting the merged one), and my vs prop average at the bottom is negative too.  Does that number not indicate realistic benefit until after the initial 7 blocks of score building are gone, have I incredibly lucky consistently enough to have been better off without this scoring system, or is the average at the bottom really a useless number too?
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January 27, 2012, 01:10:54 AM
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Well, the number at number at the bottom is for the past 50 blocks, not your overall.  I think if/when I remove the prop per block display, I'll make the bottom column your overall prop differential.  What is your number at?  It should be close to 0... a + or - a percent or two isn't a huge deal, and that number doesn't include your "banked" +prop that will only be realized when you stop mining.  I keep meaning to ask Meni if there's a way to include that amount in the calculation without sending the numbers off the rails.

The "avg donation" part is the average amount donated per user on a weighted average... meaning not everyone is donating .3%, but averaged over the total number of people mining in the block, that's what it comes out to be.  So on average, the pool (meaning me) gets .3% of 50 BTC donated, or .15 BTC!  Now you see where all the ho's be flockin', awww yeah!


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January 27, 2012, 01:30:46 AM
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I'm bumping again.

PLEASE PUT YOUR DONATION AT 3% FOR ONE FREAKING WEEK!

C'mon guys it would be a nice thank you to Inaba for maintaining a pretty sweet pool and help keep him motivated when things are a pain in the azz.

Not that he's not doing a great job already, but let's do this!

Again, I don't know Inaba at all and have no relationship with the guy outside of these boards and mining his pool the past month or so.

I just believe there are too many "takers" sometimes in bitcoin and we should support those that contribute positively.
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January 27, 2012, 01:48:58 AM
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I'm bumping again.

PLEASE PUT YOUR DONATION AT 3% FOR ONE FREAKING WEEK!

C'mon guys it would be a nice thank you to Inaba for maintaining a pretty sweet pool and help keep him motivated when things are a pain in the azz.

Not that he's not doing a great job already, but let's do this!

Again, I don't know Inaba at all and have no relationship with the guy outside of these boards and mining his pool the past month or so.

I just believe there are too many "takers" sometimes in bitcoin and we should support those that contribute positively.

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