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[mindrust]

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!

[muadib83]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in 

You boght it cheap - now it is not cheap. Blockchain is future - I know that - btc is not. It is like with websites. Dotcom or whatever it was called.



But lets speak normally without crap/fear/fud


Is it not possible that Etherum can overtake bitcoin and if it does - btc will drop to 1k? Is it not possible?

[gbianchi]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

[muadib83]

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to make retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!

Forks? I don't know - I was told I will get so many forked BTC - got 0 !! - had all my btc on Binance at the time of forks - binance wrote that they will give forked btc - still 0 there.


Last fork - Bitcoin GOD - and where it is? Nowhere

[realr0ach]

In case you guys thought I was bullshitting that Lightning Network is a fugazi, some other guy recently made a post about it too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2792933.0

Jihan Wu wasn't lying when he said segwit/LN overhypes it's benefits and underhypes it's problems.  It's definitely not something that would allow bitcoin to become the world reserve currency like some people make believe.  I listed my problems with it lower in that thread as well.

[muadib83]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.

[mindrust]

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to make retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!

Forks? I don't know - I was told I will get so many forked BTC - got 0 !! - had all my btc on Binance at the time of forks - binance wrote that they will give forked btc - still 0 there.


Last fork - Bitcoin GOD - and where it is? Nowhere

No surprises you are a clueless newbie who think btc will go to zero...

Bitcoin Diamond
Bitcoin Gold
Bcash
Super Bitcoin
Bitcore

Those are the forks I cashed out and increased my btc stash like %20. There are other forks too some of them aint worth jackshit yet so it doesn't make sense to cash out but as soon as they start to become smth i cash out to bitcoin. The only mistake i made was bcash. I could have sold them for a higher price but I don't overthink about it since its a scam project.

Since you hold your bitcoins on an exchange, you'll only have your forks if the exchange gives them to you.
Since I don't hold any on any exchange, I can collect all of them whether they have any value or not. Binance may not give you Bitcoin World coins maybe because they don't think it has a future but I can collect them and sell them at a later date when they're worth smth.

Since you don't bother with studying these stuff, you will always make mistakes with your decisions and stay poor.

Bitcoin is going to "0" LOL FUCK yes that's a real educated guess bruh!

[Globb0]

What about coins earned in a campaign.

Do they go down the same as sports sponsorship or something?

Wearing their tag for the tokens.

[realr0ach]

The only mistake i made was bcash. I could have sold them for a higher price but I don't overthink about it since its a scam project.

All 1400 coins are scams because it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency, only ones designed to centralize into federated chains and permissioned ledgers.  For that not to happen, everyone would have to process their own transactions like IOTA attempted but failed with a DAG and unprofitable PoW.  It's not possible to form consensus without artificial convergence in a DAG, so scratch that idea.  It's honestly not possible to make a decentralized digital currency.

If it was possible, it wouldn't say under my username:  "#InPhysicalSilverWeTrust"

[muadib83]

I didnt have those forks because I didnt own bitcoin then noob

But I had bitcoin on binance while it forked on Bitcoin GOD - and they never gave it to me so stfu.


Binance stated that they will give Bitcoin God and they didn't.

I holded btc on electrum wallet when btc gold went in - still didnt get it.



And actually Bitcoin has more chances to be 0 than 1 milion usd as you predict. They will just ban usd/bitcoin - and it will be worthless.

Just look at price when simple info like korea ban made to bitcoin - now imagine GDAX closes - BOOM

Having all money on btc is stupid - if it goes to the roof - with some daytrade of new projects I can do 0.5btc out from 0.175btc - it will be still much money. If it fails - I wont lose all - If I see good adoption of BTC or LN will not fail - I will go in hard.

[vroom]

where is this jihad bear coming from and why do we bother?

[gbianchi]

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.

You ask for a a good reason/evidence.
I give you a good reason/evidence.

[HanvanBitcoin]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.

If i put my savings into a bankaccount im 100% sure it will be worth less next year.

Investing my savings into BTCitcoin brought me way more then i could have ever hoped for. I dont trust banks with their government issued money with my savings. I believe in decentralised limited supply. Thats why i invest in bitcoin.

I pay with fiat, save in BTCitcoin. HODL 4 life.

[realr0ach]

https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/954931333087637505
in which fluffypony rekts saifedean

All of these people saying "you must use only bitcoin and everything else is a scam" is nonsense because it's INHERENTLY a pro-usury stance where you're claiming the entire world must agree to be exploited for the highest fees possible without them doing the obvious free market choice of just using something else.  I thought bitcoin was supposed to be anti-usury banker?  wtf?  It's like people already know bitcoin dies without scaling to a huge amount so they're trying to strong arm people into propping up their investment LOL.

[mindrust]

If i put my savings into a bankaccount im 100% sure it will be worth less next year.

Investing my savings into BTCitcoin brought me way more then i could have ever hoped for. I dont trust banks with their government issued money with my savings. I believe in decentralised limited supply. Thats why i invest in bitcoin.

I pay with fiat, save in BTCitcoin. HODL 4 life.

Actually that's the main reason I hold bitcoin right now. Not because I expect to become rich one day. (Well, tbh, I expect this too who doesn't?)

I don't trust banks. I got some of my money in a bank collecting interest profits but I still don't trust them. Sending/Withdrawing/Depositing, everything needs paper work with the banks. I don't need to deal with banks anymore when I do stuff with bitcoin. I can carry it around with me, I can send it to somebody, whatever. I don't need permission from anybody.

And right now bitcoin has the most active dev team and community so that's why I hold btc's but not some other random shit coin.

I have some of my wealth away from banks' touch and that makes me happy.

[Neo_Coin]

[realr0ach]

OK guys, I know a lot of you are buying the marijuana with these bitcoin things, but think again:

http://dailystormer.red/psa-for-teenagers-regarding-the-green-menace-and-your-future/

[drbrockcoin]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in 

You boght it cheap - now it is not cheap. Blockchain is future - I know that - btc is not. It is like with websites. Dotcom or whatever it was called.



But lets speak normally without crap/fear/fud


Is it not possible that Etherum can overtake bitcoin and if it does - btc will drop to 1k? Is it not possible?

JESUS CHRIST - give it a rest man. Your an idiot. Let me guess BITCOIN IS DEAD again?

FUCK OFF

[realr0ach]

JESUS CHRIST

The politics of Stza (leftover crack) are so bad it's absurd.  It's like a white guy that accidentally got drunk and stumbled into a marxist cult run by Jews and black panthers.  I guess that would describe EVERYONE who lives in NYC, though.

[sirazimuth]

I didnt have those forks because I didnt own bitcoin then noob

But I had bitcoin on binance while it...<snip......blah blah blah annoying noob nonsense... >I will go in hard.

Well now, I  think I have my 1st ignore ever...