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January 23, 2018, 10:46:10 PM

What the fuck is going on...

BTCBTC skyrocketing Wink weee

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Just bought another small fraction. Now I have whopping 0.25 BTC. I cant remember the last time  i had that much Grin I love these corrections
next buy order at 10k
If we get to 6k, i might have whole 1 BTC by then  Smiley


Yeah.. I hope the rest of us and the many HODLers get fucked, merely so you can accumulate a whole BTC.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I do find it a bit strange that you, as a member here since mid 2011, do not HODL more BTC, and also that you would be planning to increase your BTC holdings by 3x, in the event of another approximately 40% BTC price drop.  It is likely you are in a BTC accumulation stage rather than in a BTC maintenance stage, in spite of your years of membership on this forum.

Just for illustrative purposes, I will disclose that I have several times more BTC than you, and I am not trying to brag, but just stating a fact based on your representations.

And let me assert that surely, I am much more wealthy overall if BTC prices are up rather than down, but sounds like you and I have a similar BTC buy on the way down strategy, yet it seems that I play with much less extremes than you (likely because I am in a kind of maintenance stage and you are either in an accumulation stage or a BTC gambling stage).   

Even though both of us are buying BTC as prices go down, my accumulation of BTC in terms of the percentage of my whole BTC holdings remains way smaller than yours, and if BTC prices were to go down another 40% from here, to approximately $6k, my current preset BTC buying plan would only trigger that I buy about 4% more BTC into my overall BTC holdings.   

Seems like my street cred as largely a BTC HOLDer is bolstered by such a fact that I am not playing around with a very large percentage of my BTC holdings, even though I could possibly profit a bit more from a bit more aggressive BTC selling strategy that would thereafter result in me buying more BTC on the way down, but it seems that I am too chicken shit and conservative to take such a more aggressive approach, because I feel that overall I would probably end up getting screwed out of more BTC, if I were to take such a more aggressive approach that results in playing around with a larger percentage of my overall BTC holdings.   
im not worried about long time holders, I believe they would  survive another brief 40% drop like they had to many times before.  Smiley
There is a plane B as well (actualy thats A), to accumulate through alts, which seems to be much easier than waiting for very deep dips.

Yeah, I find it strange too, but have already wrote somewhere, that i was hit but nearly every exchange scam since 2011  Grin Back then I was just a poor boy with old computer. I left back to forex several times after i got tired of getting scammed-but always returned after while... and finally quit with FOREX rigged game for good last summer.
[I can still remember my first encounter with scammer - on IRC otc market: https://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=FractalUniverse&sign=NEG&type=SENT]

The grid trading system is very good for bitcoin, you are playing it very safe. Im much more aggressive in trading, but true- its connected to amount of funds involved. There is large amount of variations to grids. its not necessary to accumulate or release slowly. Increments and position size may be variable as well as fixed; and if it goes in one direction for too long, defensive strategy can be used (slowly rebuying high or decreasing positions when it gets out of comfortable zone, hedging, playing with support/resistance  etc. .. use your imagination, its not crucial to get in close to bottoms or sell close to top). But of course, when/if it gets to the point when i have optimal funds for trading, BTC profits will go into offline wallet.

Many holders here have lots of bitcoins because -years ago- you/they did what I didnt. And interestingly, im not envious at all. There is no problem to get back on track in this phase. Its not too late yet.
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January 23, 2018, 10:48:20 PM

Yes, a very self-teachable moment. Once we start mooning again I need a strategy that goes beyond kicky memes. I'm an adult now!


I get the sense that you really do not want to learn from your mistakes.

The reality of the matter is that we do not need to "moon" before you can consider and even begin to implement a strategy that is going to cause less emotional behaviors from yourself.

Surely, none of us go from 100 to 0 on the emotional scale without some practice, and likely none of us go completely to zero on such a scale.

You admitted that you already sold 5%, so you can structure a plan that would allow you to buy part or all of that 5% at certain price points that are comfortable for you (which would be on the way down), and you can also set up your future sell points that are comfortable for you (which would be on the way up).  Surely, you are not a lost cause unless you keep repeating the same exact behavior that is causing nervousness and causing you to do the opposite of what you should be doing and failing/refusing to learn from it.  Can we hope that you take some immediate action?  What is the likelihood that immediate action will be taken?  50/50?
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January 23, 2018, 10:49:55 PM

I find myself in need of a pretty rock. Mostly just because. But diamonds are too... cliche, mainstream, dirty? Something less common, but still very pretty to look at. Any suggestions?

You'll find prettier rocks rooting around on the average beach for nothing.



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January 23, 2018, 10:52:03 PM

So what do you think, guys ? Sell my next block @ $11.5k or hold out for $12.5k (likely within 24 hours...)



You're awful needy for a top.

And we get it with the mill or two already. Meh.


hahahahaha

Hilarious....


I am not going to chime in with substance on this particular point (unless begged) because I already gave my suggestion on this point, about 2 weeks ago. 
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I have no doubt, but I'm on a schedule. I've made peace parting with 20-30% of my Bitcorn reserves to fund my retirement, within the next 30 days.

Now I'm just dealing with the stress of timing my sell-walls Sad

Is people like you that are holding the train.. you waited how many years to sell BTC and now you cant wait to be a fiatllionare?  WTF?
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January 23, 2018, 11:00:03 PM

Just sell when you feel the time is right. Selling into stronger hands never hurts and nobody went bankrupt taking a little fiat profit  Roll Eyes
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January 23, 2018, 11:00:09 PM

I have an idea we're going to see 14k again soon (perhaps Jan 27th/28th).  I bet you can get 13.5k with a tad more patience.

I have no doubt, but I'm on a schedule. I've made peace parting with 20-30% of my Bitcorn reserves to fund my retirement, within the next 30 days.

Now I'm just dealing with the stress of timing my sell-walls Sad
Have you noticed some reaction of the market, after you place an order?
I was always wondering how the bots react, when real sell wall appears on order book.
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January 23, 2018, 11:02:50 PM

I'm not sure what's going on with the mempool/fees right now, but I don't like it.

Something is going on... Bullish signal ?

https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#2h


think johoe's nodes musta went down momentarily
https://mempool.observer/


in other 'news'
lightning struck Stripe
https://stripe.com/blog/ending-bitcoin-support
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Seems like fees have collapsed.

This makes me believe that the big spammers are now getting hurt by low BTC prices and want to contribute to the price recovery!
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January 23, 2018, 11:04:51 PM

Seems like fees have collapsed.

This makes me believe that the big spammers are now getting hurt by low BTC prices and want to contribute to the price recovery!

Funny how Bitcoin Cash suffered much worse than Bitcoin during this alt-coin collapse.
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January 23, 2018, 11:09:15 PM

Seems like fees have collapsed.

This makes me believe that the big spammers are now getting hurt by low BTC prices and want to contribute to the price recovery!

Funny how Bitcoin Cash suffered much worse than Bitcoin during this alt-coin collapse.

I never thought I'd say this, but BCH may actually be a buy under 0.146
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January 23, 2018, 11:16:10 PM

Seems like fees have collapsed.

This makes me believe that the big spammers are now getting hurt by low BTC prices and want to contribute to the price recovery!

Funny how Bitcoin Cash suffered much worse than Bitcoin during this alt-coin collapse.

I never thought I'd say this, but BCH may actually be a buy under 0.146

yaya and jbreher is a lying scammer, but he's 'polite' so that's fine
how much did they pay you jojo?
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January 23, 2018, 11:18:01 PM

I'm not sure what's going on with the mempool/fees right now, but I don't like it.

Something is going on... Bullish signal ?

https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#2h

I am not going to chime in with substance on this particular point (unless begged) because I already gave my suggestion on this point, about 2 weeks ago. 

Yeah yeah, I know... I'm supposed to be happy selling above $10k USD/BTC...

Hmmm. lots of these unable to decode output address's.   https://blockchain.info/strange-transactions

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January 23, 2018, 11:20:38 PM

yaya and jbreher is a lying scammer, but he's 'polite' so that's fine
how much did they pay you jojo?

I wish.  I have yet to be offered anything for this account...perhaps when I finally make legendary.

It is more that I am increasingly uncomfortable trading against USD as I do not want to be stuck in it when the whole crypto arc floats off so I have been pivoting to trading against a few of the top alts.

With a whopping 2% of holdings mind you.
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January 23, 2018, 11:26:53 PM

yaya and jbreher is a lying scammer, but he's 'polite' so that's fine
how much did they pay you jojo?

I wish.  I have yet to be offered anything for this account...perhaps when I finally make legendary.

It is more that I am increasingly uncomfortable trading against USD as I do not want to be stuck in it when the whole crypto arc floats off so I have been pivoting to trading against a few of the top alts.

With a whopping 2% of holdings mind you.
glad you didnt react too bad to my flip remark
your acct must be well valuable - your sig got 3 of us at least into btc:
This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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January 23, 2018, 11:28:47 PM

OT

Some interesting mining data projections for 2018.

http://theminersunion.com/2018/01/04/q1-2018-bitcoin-mining-projections/

This is some commentary from Level1Tech that I think explain the relevant parts of the article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR7E9O0UiCY&t=4045s


Basically it has to do with TSCM(the foundry the produces Bitmains 16nm ASIC)and their quarterly earnings report.

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January 23, 2018, 11:36:47 PM

Where are the bulls? all charts are bearish, why?
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January 23, 2018, 11:36:55 PM

I was always wondering how the bots react, when real sell wall appears on order book.

$1M walls are a drop in the bucket. Bots don't give a shit.
thats cool. At least it looks like there is still plenty of liquidity

Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
Censorship of Bitcoin will be…
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January 23, 2018, 11:41:57 PM




Here is how an EW analyst might see the future.  (abc would be longer time but I couldn't fit on chart).  I could try to rationalize the peak with something like  ' all governemnts ban btc once it is big enough to pose an actual threat to fiat currency' or 'catastrophic protocol failure or unresolvable scalability issue', 'world financial meltdown / wars' or simply 'competition from something better'.


Look at this prediction I made in 2014

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January 23, 2018, 11:42:28 PM

Where are the bulls? all charts are bearish, why?



 Cool

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