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January 30, 2018, 06:08:33 AM

I am not finding this breakdown of the line from the 17th convincing.
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January 30, 2018, 07:58:14 AM

I am not finding this breakdown of the line from the 17th convincing.
Unconvincing shake?
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January 30, 2018, 08:56:15 AM
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I’m glad Bob isn’t still waiting for 12.5k.

And here I am waiting for the market to take me out of my position at $11,350.  

Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide
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Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.
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January 30, 2018, 10:13:09 AM
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Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.

The whales are letting the market to cool off after their pump and dump. Calculating profits  Grin As soon as they're sure all weak hands are out they'll pump again.
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January 30, 2018, 10:18:22 AM


Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.

The whales are letting the market to cool off after their pump and dump. Calculating profits  Grin As soon as they're sure all weak hands are out they'll pump again.

We aren't even close to the weak hands being forced out yet. This is shaping up to be another 2014/15. Put the screens down and check back in two years
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January 30, 2018, 10:24:29 AM


Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.

The whales are letting the market to cool off after their pump and dump. Calculating profits  Grin As soon as they're sure all weak hands are out they'll pump again.

We aren't even close to the weak hands being forced out yet. This is shaping up to be another 2014/15. Put the screens down and check back in two years

This is what I fear, though I do think BTC now is very different from BTC back then. So I don't see a greater than 80% correction like last time.
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January 30, 2018, 10:27:22 AM
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I was looking through recently confirmed transactions and stumbled upon this gem. https://blockchain.info/address/18AMPWtHW97ebTkSdBk9Jzv9gSZoh2og5D
These transaction involving this address look totally legit. NOT Roll Eyes




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Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.

The whales are letting the market to cool off after their pump and dump. Calculating profits  Grin As soon as they're sure all weak hands are out they'll pump again.

We aren't even close to the weak hands being forced out yet. This is shaping up to be another 2014/15. Put the screens down and check back in two years

I'm 100% sure we won't fall below 9k in any scenario. Masterluc also mentioned 9k as the bottom for now.
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January 30, 2018, 11:07:13 AM

Loaded indeed !

I have had hundreds of thousands of shitcoins.  I don’t think it’s quite the same feeling !

Edit:  it’s worth noting that the USDT / USD pair on Kraken is now heavily bot patrolled and locked to 0.995 cents USD.  Buy side also matches sell side in order book.
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Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.

The whales are letting the market to cool off after their pump and dump. Calculating profits  Grin As soon as they're sure all weak hands are out they'll pump again.

We aren't even close to the weak hands being forced out yet. This is shaping up to be another 2014/15. Put the screens down and check back in two years

Why do you say that?

I think that any weak hands would have been forced out long ago, when the price dropped to 9k.
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January 30, 2018, 11:45:42 AM

Store of value  Grin

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January 30, 2018, 11:58:49 AM

crypto is boring again
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January 30, 2018, 12:02:24 PM

Cryptos market will be boring until March.
Lets be patience.
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January 30, 2018, 12:03:57 PM

Dear user,

We will be reopening the batch of the Antminer A3, the Blake(2b) miner, tomorrow.

Only Bitcoin Cash (BCH) will be accepted as payment method for this batch. Please select the payment method within 30 minutes of your order submission or otherwise, your order will be EXPIRED.

7. After successfully selecting the payment method, please complete the Bitcoin cash (BCH) payment for your order within one hour, or, otherwise, your order will be EXPIRED.

 Cheesy Cheesy  BCH rulez ... or

i will not buy but .. why? bch
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January 30, 2018, 12:05:22 PM

PS. My real estate guy went manic climbing the peak. Now he's in the red and he's sour about it. He's no fun anymore either.

 The shit he was peddlin' in 2007 wasn't so hot either.
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January 30, 2018, 12:07:55 PM


Edit:  great buying guys !  Bottom of the wedge !!  ....  /hide

Or about to take a dive  Sad

Edit: On another note, the market looks like the only buys and sells are from short term traders trying to make a few bucks. It seems demand from new entrants or long term investors has completely died off. I can see this on my local exchange vs the overseas ones. 2 months ago there was a 10% difference in price, that has now dropped down to <2%. Not good, this massive drop in demand.

The whales are letting the market to cool off after their pump and dump. Calculating profits  Grin As soon as they're sure all weak hands are out they'll pump again.

We aren't even close to the weak hands being forced out yet. This is shaping up to be another 2014/15. Put the screens down and check back in two years

Why do you say that?

I think that any weak hands would have been forced out long ago, when the price dropped to 9k.

weak hands are gone IMO as well.
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January 30, 2018, 12:13:19 PM
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Dear user,

We will be reopening the batch of the Antminer A3, the Blake(2b) miner, tomorrow.

Only Bitcoin Cash (BCH) will be accepted as payment method for this batch. Please select the payment method within 30 minutes of your order submission or otherwise, your order will be EXPIRED.

7. After successfully selecting the payment method, please complete the Bitcoin cash (BCH) payment for your order within one hour, or, otherwise, your order will be EXPIRED.

 Cheesy Cheesy  BCH rulez ... or

i will not buy but .. why? bch

Because the only thing bcash is used for is buying antminers. If they don't enforce that as the payment method, bcash is not used anywhere else. The sociopaths behind bcash have egos to satisfy, remember they are geniuses because they bought in early, and they are geniuses because they created the real bitcoin called bcash. lol.
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January 30, 2018, 12:15:51 PM
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I was blown away yesterday when I opened my Electrum wallet and wanted to send BTC to some family members as part of a Chiristmas gift.  The idea was to send my $100 dollar gifts with low fees so that I would not be giving much of my gifting to the miners.  To my surprise the lowest calculated fee on the wallet was equivalent to 191 sat/b while the mempool was chugging away at 20-30 sat/b.  So I clicked the manual fees option and sent the transaction at 40 sat/b.  Today (a few hours later) I went back to my wallet and clicked automatic (dynamic) fee calculation and the calculated fees had dropped to a correct levels like 5 to 50 sat/b.  Then I took a look at the Bitcoin fees page https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ and realized that still many people are sending transactions with huge fees while others have scaled fees somewhat appropriately.  

I am shocked at the variability of how much money the miners are charging for processing the transactions.  My transactions are small so typically 226 bytes is a good average size, today I can send transactions for 10 sat/b or 226sat x 10sat/byte / 100000000 = 0.0000226  BTC ($0.24) and there are people who are still paying 300 sat/byte or 30 times more 0.0000226 * 300/10 = 0.000678 BTC or ($7.48).  And then you can see on the fees transaction page ( https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ ) that the bulk of the transactions are centered around 191 to 200 sat/byte; and that is the shocking part.  This means that most of the wallets used are still stuck around the 191 to 200 sat/byte and not adjusting the fees dynamically like I noticed yesterday.

My conclusion:  The miners have influenced the wallet generators to keep transactions very expensive so they can profit more.  Electrum wallet fees will remain very high unless you switch to manual fees and send some cheap transactions, then the automatic fee calculation will kick in when you go back from manual to automatic fee calculation.  This change in automatic fee calculation did not happen immediately so be careful if you want to send some cheap transactions that the fees are adjusted properly and probably better to configure the fees manually.

I am on the belief that the spammers have finally realized that it is not to their advantage to keep spamming the mempool and hurting Bitcoins ability to send money cheap!  It will be very interesting to see what the future holds for Bitcoins when lightning fast transactions and smart contracts are activated on the network.

eidt: Also noticed that the fee transaction page still says:

"Which fee should I use?
The fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 170 satoshis/byte, shown in green at the top.
For the median transaction size of 226 bytes, this results in a fee of 38,420 satoshis."

False information again to benefit the miners!!!!
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January 30, 2018, 12:28:20 PM

Taking off now .... This means 10h and 10 minutes off No price checking..... i know looking doesn’t change anything but i love to price check the energy complete out of my phone  Roll Eyes
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