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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 8 (5.8%)
H2 2019 - 15 (10.8%)
H1 2020 - 26 (18.7%)
H2 2020 - 26 (18.7%)
H1 2021 - 11 (7.9%)
H2 2021 - 27 (19.4%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.3%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.9%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 2 (1.4%)
2024 or Later - 14 (10.1%)
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At the best point I had 0.9btc
Now 0.725btc. I sold all - will be just staying with around 0.25btc. I made in few months (from 11.17 do 12.17) 11k$ - now I lost 1.5k$

Oh shit, niggas ! Look out ! We got a whale here !!! How even will the markets react to this terrible news ??!?


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January 21, 2018, 12:56:17 PM

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

No, all those poor people who have held since 2011 have lost everything right. Complete losers the lot of them.
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January 21, 2018, 12:56:24 PM

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

HODLing since 2015.

Retiring around March 1st, many years ahead of schedule, after selling approximately 35% of my stash. Will HODL remaining stash until at least 2020 before deciding what to do next.

Where is your God now ?
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January 21, 2018, 12:58:02 PM

I really thought we can win vs jews from WS - no way.

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:

https://i.imgur.com/tLaQvrN.jpg

As you are someone seriously into metals you gave me some sound advice back in 2015 when I was about to buy silver at $16.
You said to wait as it had a couple $ to go, I managed to buy at $14.30 not quite the bottom but near enough.
I am in EU now where buying silver attracts 20% VAT so I am about to buy some gold which is not taxed.
In your opinion is this month a good time to buy also is it better to buy in many smaller units or to go for the cheaper option of one or two large units.
Many thanks.

The commercial shorts nearly always win (aka the ESF), and since they are high right now, it signals they will drop the price a little.  But like I was saying about this FISA thing, the release of this seems VERY orchestrated and might be used as a scapegoat for some type of economic implosion as I was talking about here:

http://steemit.com/news/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-35-the-fisa-memo-is-likely-the-scapegoat-to-blow-up-the-economy

One of the goals of these people in entities like the ESF is to "disconnect cause and effect", which is why they made sure to implode gold during the 2008 crash when it obviously shouldn't have.  Some claim people had to liquidate their ETF & Comex contracts to cover other investments, but that's complete bullshit why the price went where it did.  Anyway, if my FISA theory is correct, they will probably attempt to do the exact same thing they did during 2008, then metals skyrocket after the dip IF they manage to force it down.  Maybe it wont dip at all this time before going up, who knows.  Supply seems too tight for them to force it low to me, unlike in 2008.  It's always possible it could be the one time where the ESF shorts get screwed and it skyrockets

If nothing comes out of this FISA stuff, that $900 platinum bottom is a REALLY REALLY hard floor, so they will have an enormously hard time screwing with metals too much.  And getting silver below $16 for any extended period of time is also too hard for them.  They could drop gold to as low as $1050 or so, but that's about it.  The downside potential on all this stuff is really small without a deflationary event that would wipe out every bank in America anyway.

Thankyou for you much valued answer to my post.
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January 21, 2018, 12:58:53 PM

At the best point I had 0.9btc
Now 0.725btc. I sold all - will be just staying with around 0.25btc. I made in few months (from 11.17 do 12.17) 11k$ - now I lost 1.5k$

Oh shit, niggas ! Look out ! We got a whale here !!! How even will the markets react to this terrible news ??!?


Oh its a damn tragedy that's for sure, muadib is leaving, I just can't believe it. Bitcoin is dead man, it's dead.
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January 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in  Roll Eyes
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January 21, 2018, 01:06:02 PM

the best thing is that - no one provided anything to make me buy bitcoin and Hodl - man you are weak Cheesy


Now I know why it dips hard  Grin


Even if it will go to the moon - you u all lose because you will always think it will go higher - there is no stop for ya all - and some day as everything it will be gone.

Going out early is better than not going out ever

Maybe for people that earn loads of money monthly - its easy to hodl -  because they give a fuck about it anyway. Thats probably my problem here Undecided
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January 21, 2018, 01:07:33 PM

https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/954931333087637505
in which fluffypony rekts saifedean
i swear it's the carnivore thing makes them so dull-witted
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January 21, 2018, 01:08:13 PM

HODLing since 2011. Let's just say: I don't regret it.  Wink
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January 21, 2018, 01:09:00 PM

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!
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January 21, 2018, 01:10:05 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

Only a part of my hodling bought me the house that i live in  Roll Eyes



You boght it cheap - now it is not cheap. Blockchain is future - I know that - btc is not. It is like with websites. Dotcom or whatever it was called.



But lets speak normally without crap/fear/fud


Is it not possible that Etherum can overtake bitcoin and if it does - btc will drop to 1k? Is it not possible?
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January 21, 2018, 01:11:43 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.
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January 21, 2018, 01:12:17 PM

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to make retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!



Forks? I don't know - I was told I will get so many forked BTC - got 0 !! - had all my btc on Binance at the time of forks - binance wrote that they will give forked btc - still 0 there.


Last fork - Bitcoin GOD - and where it is? Nowhere
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January 21, 2018, 01:17:42 PM

In case you guys thought I was bullshitting that Lightning Network is a fugazi, some other guy recently made a post about it too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2792933.0

Jihan Wu wasn't lying when he said segwit/LN overhypes it's benefits and underhypes it's problems.  It's definitely not something that would allow bitcoin to become the world reserve currency like some people make believe.  I listed my problems with it lower in that thread as well.
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January 21, 2018, 01:20:07 PM

Maybe for people that earn loads of money monthly - its easy to hodl -  because they give a fuck about it anyway. Thats probably my problem here Undecided

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January 21, 2018, 01:21:20 PM

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up Embarrassed

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.



So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.
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January 21, 2018, 01:22:10 PM

Also holding since 2016.

The amount was not significant at that time. I thought even if lose this who cares. Money got bigger and bigger. Forks happened and my btc number got bigger too (for free) And now that amount is as big as to make a difference. Not enough to make retire me yet but still i feel good to have it around.

HODLing is maybe not the most profitable option you got but it is the safest indeed. I quit trading after gox thing and almost never ever had btc's on the exchanges since then. That was the main reason I stopped trading and dumped my coins. I started to collect in 2016 again and it paid off.

I now sadly wish that I haven't dumped my other coins for pennies but past is past. We are still in early phase and there isn't enough bitcoins for everybody!



Forks? I don't know - I was told I will get so many forked BTC - got 0 !! - had all my btc on Binance at the time of forks - binance wrote that they will give forked btc - still 0 there.


Last fork - Bitcoin GOD - and where it is? Nowhere

No surprises you are a clueless newbie who think btc will go to zero...

Bitcoin Diamond
Bitcoin Gold
Bcash
Super Bitcoin
Bitcore

Those are the forks I cashed out and increased my btc stash like %20. There are other forks too some of them aint worth jackshit yet so it doesn't make sense to cash out but as soon as they start to become smth i cash out to bitcoin. The only mistake i made was bcash. I could have sold them for a higher price but I don't overthink about it since its a scam project.

Since you hold your bitcoins on an exchange, you'll only have your forks if the exchange gives them to you.
Since I don't hold any on any exchange, I can collect all of them whether they have any value or not. Binance may not give you Bitcoin World coins maybe because they don't think it has a future but I can collect them and sell them at a later date when they're worth smth.

Since you don't bother with studying these stuff, you will always make mistakes with your decisions and stay poor.

Bitcoin is going to "0" LOL FUCK yes that's a real educated guess bruh!
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January 21, 2018, 01:24:53 PM

What about coins earned in a campaign.

Do they go down the same as sports sponsorship or something?

Wearing their tag for the tokens.
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January 21, 2018, 01:28:36 PM

The only mistake i made was bcash. I could have sold them for a higher price but I don't overthink about it since its a scam project.

All 1400 coins are scams because it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency, only ones designed to centralize into federated chains and permissioned ledgers.  For that not to happen, everyone would have to process their own transactions like IOTA attempted but failed with a DAG and unprofitable PoW.  It's not possible to form consensus without artificial convergence in a DAG, so scratch that idea.  It's honestly not possible to make a decentralized digital currency.

If it was possible, it wouldn't say under my username:  "#InPhysicalSilverWeTrust"
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January 21, 2018, 01:33:09 PM

I didnt have those forks because I didnt own bitcoin then noob

But I had bitcoin on binance while it forked on Bitcoin GOD - and they never gave it to me so stfu.


Binance stated that they will give Bitcoin God and they didn't.

I holded btc on electrum wallet when btc gold went in - still didnt get it.



And actually Bitcoin has more chances to be 0 than 1 milion usd as you predict. They will just ban usd/bitcoin - and it will be worthless.

Just look at price when simple info like korea ban made to bitcoin - now imagine GDAX closes - BOOM Cheesy

Having all money on btc is stupid - if it goes to the roof - with some daytrade of new projects I can do 0.5btc out from 0.175btc - it will be still much money. If it fails - I wont lose all - If I see good adoption of BTC or LN will not fail - I will go in hard.

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