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[Arriemoller]

Just going through all the shitfork coins to see if I can increase my BTC stash.
Looks like the majority of them can't be exchanged on any exchanges due to various reasons (non functioning wallets etc).
Does anyone have a list of which coins are actively trading and can be deposited at which exchange?
Would be much appreciated.

Yes please that’d be great. I don’t have an android phone so I haven’t been able to claim my bitcoin gold still through the Coinimi wallet.

You can get a brand new android phone from China on ebay for 40 bucks and free shipping, I just bought one to keep my free coins in. Will start to claim after Bitcoin Atom's snapshot on 25/26 this month.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultrathin-5Android-5-1-Quad-Core-2G-8G-4G-GSM-Bluetooth-WiFi-Dual-Smart-phone/222764422358?hash=item33ddcb54d6:m:mpEJ82Tk8SCS3joqufkdiXg

Be careful of cheap android phones from ebay and amazon. Some of them have viruses installed on them by the manufacturers themselves, or along the supply chain.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/kryptowire-adups-news/

The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
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[cAPSLOCK]

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

Do you want to store private keys, and/or enter passwords on a compromised device which may have a keylogger etc?

I would, at the very least, want to make sure I could flash this device with LineageOS or something, though this would not mitagate every single OpSec issue...

[Torque]

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

Do you want to store private keys, and/or enter passwords on a compromised device which may have a keylogger etc?

I would, at the very least, want to make sure I could flash this device with LineageOS or something, though this would not mitagate every single OpSec issue...

Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?

[josephpogi]

Can i ask? What is the best trading site now for bitcoin ? Btc -usdt?  Thanks .

[Arriemoller]

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

Do you want to store private keys, and/or enter passwords on a compromised device which may have a keylogger etc?

I would, at the very least, want to make sure I could flash this device with LineageOS or something, though this would not mitagate every single OpSec issue...

Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?

Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor?

[Arriemoller]

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

Do you want to store private keys, and/or enter passwords on a compromised device which may have a keylogger etc?

I would, at the very least, want to make sure I could flash this device with LineageOS or something, though this would not mitagate every single OpSec issue...

And there was the "walking backwards", now give me an example.

[Torque]

Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?

Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor?

SatoshiLabs has to first add Trezor support for the new forked coins, as they have with past forks such as BCash and BitcoinGold. But once they have done that, you should be able to claim and send your forked coins anywhere you wish.

They have rules around what Bitcoin forks they will support though:

https://trezor.io/troubleshooter/#103

[jojo69]

The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

You, sir, deserve what is coming to you.  Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself.

[rafanadal]

Ugh for a while there, we almost made it to 12k
back to sub 11k again 

[OWZ1337]

The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

You, sir, deserve what is coming to you.  Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself.

i used to mine feathercoin on my iphone app back in 2013 haha :\ ~hella secure crypto lol

[jbreher]

I was hoping not to have to install special instrumentation like wireshark.

Well, wireshark is about as universal a network analysis tool as exists.

BTW, 8333 is for bitcoind. LN uses a different port (can't recall right now).

Exactly. Filter out all 8333 and what are you left with? Traffic not to/from your validating client - which I believe was what you were looking for in your query.

I'd be left with the rest of the traffic - which isn't LN alone. I'd better filter to select LN traffic only. But that's a minor detail.

True, true. But your question was how to avoid cluttering the LN packets with bitcoind packets. Filtering port 8333 would do that. I assume that other background processing would be negligible. Unless you're seeding torrent at the same time or somesuch. And admittedly, I don't know the default LN port(s) either.

[jojo69]

So in other news, it appears that the moneybadger coalition successfully defended the 9-4RP2 keepstar from the goonswarm/imperium last night in the largest online battle that has yet occurred.  I have not seen a summary of the killboard, but over $1M (real money) worth of virtual equipment was at play in this engagement.

[mindrust]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-23/first-cryptocurrency-freight-deal-takes-russian-wheat-to-turkey

Bullish news?

[Arriemoller]

Why not just get a Trezor for about twice the cost?

Can you download Coinomi, Bither and Bitpie and then claim your forks on a Trezor?

SatoshiLabs has to first add Trezor support for the new forked coins, as they have with past forks such as BCash and BitcoinGold. But once they have done that, you should be able to claim and send your forked coins anywhere you wish.

They have rules around what Bitcoin forks they will support though:

https://trezor.io/troubleshooter/#103

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

[mindrust]

I never understood the need for a HW wallet anyway. Is it that hard to write down your private keys? Or memorize your 12/24 word seed?

[Arriemoller]

The last thing you want your smartphone doing is sending your text messages, contacts, and location history to a server in China. But according to mobile security firm Kryptowire, a particularly nasty brand of Android software did just that, transmitting text, data, call, location, and app data to a Chinese server every 72 hours.

Researchers began to raise red flags last fall, when it was discovered the the data mining tool in question — called Adups — had been living inside hundreds of millions of devices produced by more than 40 manufacturers

There are other viruses pre-installed in some android phones besides the one in that story.

So what?

Give me an example where that is relevant to cryptocurrencies.
An actual example where something happened to that persons cryptos because of those viruses, not any made
up theorthical "this or that might happen if the moon is partially clouded while you accidentally walk backwards while seeing a stray cat hunting,"

You, sir, deserve what is coming to you.  Please stop making light of security, there are noobs that read this thread, you could do real harm to others, not just yourself.

A n00b buying a phone, not installing anything but the apps necessary to claim the forks (after of course first moving his bitcoins to a new wallet), using only free wifi to do so, and then immediately moving his coins to a new wallet or an exchange will be perfectly fine.

[jojo69]

I never understood the need for a HW wallet anyway. Is it that hard to write down your private keys? Or memorize your 12/24 word seed?

it is a convenient offline signer, nothing more, you can achieve the same thing with a dedicated offline PC.

[Torque]

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!

[Arriemoller]

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!

As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection.

[Toxic2040]

Thanks, but I have kind of an issue with companies telling me what forks I can and can not have.
With a phone I choose what to claim and not.

You go with that lack of replay protection, booooyyyiii !!

As far as I know, all the forks have replay protection. I would never touch a fork without replay protection.