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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (2.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.7%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.4%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (7.1%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (10.7%)
$95K to $100K - 28 (20%)
>$100K - 80 (57.1%)
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April 01, 2018, 09:23:33 PM

I’m sorry guys the rebound from $6400 was mechanical buying.

Shorts being liquidated and buy stop orders being triggered.

It’s not a real rally imho, it’s just market mechanics.

I'm not sure the bounce was strong enough to squeeze a short from the bottom. The most leverage that I know about that directly interacts with the market is 5X. Unless whales are being given more leverage than I am aware of. Bitmex and OKex are total derivatives, I thought.
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April 01, 2018, 09:41:01 PM

In other words is it a glade? Or is it a rally within the bigger glade thatll extend the larger glade and perhaps revisit $8K before the real crash?
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April 01, 2018, 09:42:15 PM

The good news is that the Sun will come out.........just not tomorrow, and I will bet my bottom dollar. I would be a heavy buyer around April 6th, and again mid-May. And early 2019.

P.S. this chart is from the future, your results may vary.

[https://s18.postimg.org/qsf1exrw9/The_sun_will_come_out.png[/img]

Yes.... Results do happen to vary..... Results especially vary from your random predictions. 

I thought that you would have given up after your stupid-ass March 5 fiasco'ed attempt at sorcerer status?

Oh?  I forgot.  The practice of a wanna-be sorcerer is merely to keep making spectacular predictions, and sooner or later one of those predictions will happen to come true.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Pot-Kettle argument:

Most of your posts are worth very little because when you attempt to make predictions you want to play both sides of down/up that the post ends up being meaningless drivel; much akin to the statement "a coin flip could produce either a heads up or a tails up"


I'm not going to quote any of your bs posts here because you posting them once was too much already

 Cry Sad Shocked Wink Cheesy Grin Roll Eyes

The March 5th thing was a Bazinga!......I sodled before Cinco de Marzo

You are pretty disingenuous telling everyone to buy before March 5.. .and then supposedly doing the opposite.  

Don't be comparing me to you in these regards.   Roll Eyes

Furthermore there is a bit of a problem with always wanting to be right.  Sure, I do a similar thing in terms of predicting probabilities to suggest probabilities for both up and down that frequently border on 50/50 or 60/40 if I am feeling confident, so in that regard, I am never really wrong, but that is not nearly in the same ballpark as the thing that you are doing in terms of making much more certain predictions and attempts at trolling sorcery that are ambiguous enough so you can always assert that you were correct.
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April 01, 2018, 09:49:10 PM

Are we just drawing random lines on the chart again that dont connect with anything, in linear scale?
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April 01, 2018, 09:51:43 PM

Are we just drawing random lines on the chart again that dont connect with anything?


He is just showing that if the market recovers back to 8k, it will be a double bottom at 6k.
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April 01, 2018, 10:03:33 PM

I’m sorry guys the rebound from $6400 was mechanical buying.

Shorts being liquidated and buy stop orders being triggered.

It’s not a real rally imho, it’s just market mechanics.

I'm not sure the bounce was strong enough to squeeze a short from the bottom. The most leverage that I know about that directly interacts with the market is 5X. Unless whales are being given more leverage than I am aware of. Bitmex and OKex are total derivatives, I thought.

Good point but there must be an arbitrage link between Bitmex and OKex and physical markets.  And shorters will want to buy to close their positions.
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April 01, 2018, 10:05:49 PM

In other words is it a glade? Or is it a rally within the bigger glade thatll extend the larger glade and perhaps revisit $8K before the real crash?

Do bears poop in the glade?
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April 01, 2018, 10:19:05 PM

For those of you comparing gold to bitcoin, don’t.  

The gold price is suppressed because gold is too easy to mine with modern mining techniques. Gold has a supply problem, there is too much of it.  We have mined far more gold since 1950 than we have in all of history, and that has flooded the market.

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The best estimates currently available suggest that around 190,040 tonnes of gold has been mined throughout history, of which around two-thirds has been mined since 1950.

Source:  https://www.gold.org/about-gold/gold-supply/gold-mining/how-much-gold-has-been-mined

Further there are too many planned mine expansions.  A single planned mine expansion in Australia (BHP Olympic Dam) would yield 15,000 tonnes of gold and 90,000 tonnes of silver.  That’s almost 10% of historical global supply from a single mine. No market can absorb that type of new supply without collapsing the price.

So ignore the 4th dimension conspiracy bullshit, because the author doesn’t know how supply and demand works in the gold market.

Bitcoin is scarce.  Gold is as common as dirt.
Not to mention the very real threat of synthetic gold becoming dirt cheap with breakthroughs in either the synthetic process itself or energy (nuclear fusion), or future asteroid mining. I wouldn't bet on metals for the next decades as a safe haven.
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April 01, 2018, 10:29:51 PM

For those of you comparing gold to bitcoin, don’t.  

The gold price is suppressed because gold is too easy to mine with modern mining techniques. Gold has a supply problem, there is too much of it.  We have mined far more gold since 1950 than we have in all of history, and that has flooded the market.

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The best estimates currently available suggest that around 190,040 tonnes of gold has been mined throughout history, of which around two-thirds has been mined since 1950.

Source:  https://www.gold.org/about-gold/gold-supply/gold-mining/how-much-gold-has-been-mined

Further there are too many planned mine expansions.  A single planned mine expansion in Australia (BHP Olympic Dam) would yield 15,000 tonnes of gold and 90,000 tonnes of silver.  That’s almost 10% of historical global supply from a single mine. No market can absorb that type of new supply without collapsing the price.

So ignore the 4th dimension conspiracy bullshit, because the author doesn’t know how supply and demand works in the gold market.

Bitcoin is scarce.  Gold is as common as dirt.
Not to mention the very real threat of synthetic gold becoming dirt cheap with breakthroughs in either the synthetic process itself or energy (nuclear fusion), or future asteroid mining. I wouldn't bet on metals for the next decades as a safe haven.

I'm not sure why people all go to nucleosynthesis and asteroid mining when presenting these arguments. The gold industry hasn't even made it economically feasible to do deep sea mining or just digging deeper. We haven't even pecked the surface of our own planet. I would imagine going down deeper  into the crust and maybe even starting to go into the mantle would be way cheaper than flying back and forth to some asteroid.
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April 01, 2018, 10:36:58 PM

For those of you comparing gold to bitcoin, don’t.  

The gold price is suppressed because gold is too easy to mine with modern mining techniques. Gold has a supply problem, there is too much of it.  We have mined far more gold since 1950 than we have in all of history, and that has flooded the market.

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The best estimates currently available suggest that around 190,040 tonnes of gold has been mined throughout history, of which around two-thirds has been mined since 1950.

Source:  https://www.gold.org/about-gold/gold-supply/gold-mining/how-much-gold-has-been-mined

Further there are too many planned mine expansions.  A single planned mine expansion in Australia (BHP Olympic Dam) would yield 15,000 tonnes of gold and 90,000 tonnes of silver.  That’s almost 10% of historical global supply from a single mine. No market can absorb that type of new supply without collapsing the price.

So ignore the 4th dimension conspiracy bullshit, because the author doesn’t know how supply and demand works in the gold market.

Bitcoin is scarce.  Gold is as common as dirt.
Not to mention the very real threat of synthetic gold becoming dirt cheap with breakthroughs in either the synthetic process itself or energy (nuclear fusion), or future asteroid mining. I wouldn't bet on metals for the next decades as a safe haven.

I'm not sure why people all go to nucleosynthesis and asteroid mining when presenting these arguments. The gold industry hasn't even made it economically feasible to do deep sea mining or just digging deeper. We haven't even pecked the surface of our own planet. I would imagine going down deeper  into the crust and maybe even starting to go into the mantle would be way cheaper than flying back and forth to some asteroid.

Aluminium used to cost more than gold, then someone figured out how to produce it electrolytically. An inventor can sometimes disrupt an established market like aluminium or gold.

Satoshi's invention springs to mind as another example.
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April 01, 2018, 11:22:11 PM

Capitulation question. Canadian exchanges have just thrown up a bundle of verification roadblocks to withdrawal to fiat. With hundreds of BTM's in most cities, what's to stop someone from going machine to machine cashing out?
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April 01, 2018, 11:24:48 PM

You have to verify for BTMs in my country.
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April 01, 2018, 11:31:11 PM

You have to verify for BTMs in my country.

ok I just found one. No verification required, paying about $700 below Preev. I guess that's the cost of laundering monies these days.
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April 01, 2018, 11:35:35 PM

It won’t last then.
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April 01, 2018, 11:36:02 PM

It won’t last then.

agreed.
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it looks like sometimes data mining catches out the creeps at the top too.

https://news.uchicago.edu/article/2018/03/06/nyc-taxi-ride-data-suggest-cozy-relationship-between-big-banks-and-fed
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April 02, 2018, 12:24:44 AM


Utterly unsurprising, yet still infuriating, makes me want to burn and rob.
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April 02, 2018, 12:33:09 AM

Further there are too many planned mine expansions.  A single planned mine expansion in Australia (BHP Olympic Dam) would yield 15,000 tonnes of gold and 90,000 tonnes of silver.  That’s almost 10% of historical global supply from a single mine. No market can absorb that type of new supply without collapsing the price.

Is that really reserves? Sounds like it should be resources. The Gold Council page you linked to suggests there's 54 kt of reserves worldwide... so that's a lot.
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April 02, 2018, 12:39:04 AM

It wont be long. Couple more weeks to a month. Some good buying opportunities on the horizon.

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April 02, 2018, 12:41:59 AM

LOL, nice poll for the 1st. Smiley

Where's the less than 24 hours choice?
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