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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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April 22, 2019, 10:04:52 PM
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https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1120399815383425025
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I surveyed notable influencers, analysts and traders for their probability that the bottom is in for this bear market. Here are the results:

95% @woonomic (Adaptive Capital / On-chain Analyst)
90% @jespow (Kraken founder)
90% @arjunblj (Analyst)
85% @novogratz (Galaxy Digital)

85% @ErikVoorhees (Shapeshift founder)
85% @nic__carter  (Coin Metrics founder)
85% @Travis_Kling (Ikigai Asset Management)
80% @TuurDemeester (Adamant Capital)
75% @APompliano (Morgan & Creek Digital)
75% @MustStopMurad (Adaptive Capital)

70% @kenoshaking (Adaptive Capital / On-chain Analyst)
69% @CarpeNoctom (Trader)
50% @PeterLBrandt (OG Trader)
40% @ToneVays (Trader / Youtube Host)
39% @venzen (Trader)
30% @VinnyLingham (Investor / Entrepreneur)
20% @LucidInvestment (Lucid Investment / Hyperwave Channel)

Notable comments:
@jespow - Bottom is never in.  Everything can go to 0.

@PeterLBrandt - 50% chance BTC goes to $50k. 25% chance we establish a very prolonged broad trading range for several years. 25% chance we go to basically zero.

Thanks to all that participated.

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Rubbish...not one Observer report. How are we supposed to take this seriously?

p.s.  dont want to get into it either but what a beautifully haunting piece of art. thanks for sharing.

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April 22, 2019, 10:15:04 PM

^ sir, ty



Rubbish...not one Observer report. How are we supposed to take this seriously?
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the bottom is in:

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https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1120399815383425025
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I surveyed notable influencers, analysts and traders for their probability that the bottom is in for this bear market. Here are the results:
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Notable comments:
@jespow - Bottom is never in.  Everything can go to 0.

@PeterLBrandt - 50% chance BTC goes to $50k. 25% chance we establish a very prolonged broad trading range for several years. 25% chance we go to basically zero.

Thanks to all that participated.

@jespow makes sense and @PeterBrandt does not as those percentages are totally whimsical.
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April 22, 2019, 10:20:00 PM

Good bye 5400.

We'll meet again.

Good to see you again. I missed you 5400.  
Haha. There will be the next update and I am sure it will impress us again. Next level is 6000$.
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April 22, 2019, 10:26:21 PM

We can only hope so ....

For sure is that my day is in and my HODLsleep hour is in....

Good night fellow WO-members Weeeeeeee
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April 22, 2019, 10:29:25 PM

via Imgflip Meme Generator

https://twitter.com/redditbtc/status/1120273223495639041?s=21

Good, we were only saying it for a whole year that its the time to BUY !
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https://markmanson.net/benefits-of-being-slightly-crazy   Kiss
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April 22, 2019, 10:45:51 PM

^ sir, ty



Rubbish...not one Observer report. How are we supposed to take this seriously?
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the bottom is in:

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WO prediction challenge accepted. Everyone please accept the challenge, quote, and add your percent certainty.  

Bottom is in.

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^this^

https://twitter.com/CryptoBoomNews/status/1114327127346831360
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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.
Crypto payment processing startup Moon announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension.
Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning

Interesting. I'd like to know more about what it means to "connect[ing] the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase".

a few years ago i ordered something from overstock.com as i think they were among the 1st retailer to accept btc (or at least the 1st retailer i would use). i dont recall exactly how i paid but i remember it was through something like bitpay or something. it displayed a qr code and btc addy with a timer, i copy/pasted the btc addy and paid from my core wallet on my desktop.

few days later i would up returning the item, and the refund went to my coinbase account. which i did not use to pay for the item, as i said it was paid with my core wallet.

they musta figured it out it was me from my shipping address maybe. i looked in my coinbase tx history just now  and all it says is refund for order xxxxx. no amount or other description.

gonna hunt through emails and such to see if i can find more info on how that went.

anyway maybe they will pull something like that..

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ok found this in my email from mid 2017:

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From: Coinbase [no-reply@coinbase.com]
To: xxxxxxxx

Overstock.com just sent you 0.xxxxx BTC (worth $xx.xx USD) using Coinbase.
Attached message:
InvoiceId: xxxxxxx, InvoicePaymentId: xxxxxx, refundAmount: USD xx.xx

EDIT: and just found the payment in my desktop core wallet labeled "to overstock for xxx" and the amount matched with a tx time about a week earlier.

so how did they match that up..

That seems frightening.
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April 22, 2019, 11:14:34 PM

Press freedom index 2019.



So the solution is to move to ... Svalbard?
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Nice Savannah cat there. It's probably the only cat I would consider paying for instead of just adopting one.

On other news... nice price Smiley
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The below is from an email I received from The Seasteading Institute. The link address, below, doesn't have anything about the Thai problem (that I can see). Rather, it goes to a page that advertises Seasteading.


Floating Islands Leader Urges Leniency for Offshore Couple



Seasteaders Offer to Help Thailand With Rising Sea Levels

San Francisco, April 22, 2019 -- The chairman of the Seasteading Institute (https://www.seasteading.org/) Patri Friedman, urged compassion for a couple whose floating home was seized last week by the Thailand government, declaring that “their actions were no threat to Thai sovereignty” and “our organization works with governments and not against them”.

American Chad Elwartowski and his Thai partner Nadia Supranee Thepdet were not aboard when the Thai navy boarded the platform they had called home for several months. Thai authorities revoked the visa of Chad, an early bitcoin investor, and charged him and his partner with violating Thai sovereignty by floating the cabin 14 nautical miles off the west coast of the Thai island of Phuket.

Friedman said he “was shocked and saddened last week by media reports that this couple was charged with treason – punishable in Thailand by death or life imprisonment – simply because no one had filed paperwork for the floating home. This is like charging someone with a capital crime for not registering their car.”

He added “For Chad and Nadia, it was the realization of a romantic dream to live openly and peacefully on the ocean...I am deeply relieved to see that officials are considering dropping the death penalty.”

Friedman, grandson of Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman, suggested instead that “Thai authorities should follow the lead of the United Nations, who recommend floating cities be part of the global community's new arsenal of tools in the fight against climate change.”

Using statistics from a recent United Nations High-Level conference on Sustainable Floating Cities in New York in early April, Friedman pointed to the Thai capital: “Seasteading concepts can help cities like Bangkok which are increasingly at risk of flooding. Some parts of the city are sinking by around two centimetres a year, while sea levels in the Gulf of Thailand are rising.”

He concluded that “we look forward to future partnerships with states, NGOs, and communities to test new ideas and solutions for all. We would be honored and delighted to share our research with the Thai government, as sustainable floating cities are a key tool to address climate change and other 21st century challenges.”

About The Seasteading Institute

The Seasteading Institute (TSI) is a United States 501(c)(3) non-profit. Our mission is to enable seasteading communities – floating cities – where pioneers can peacefully test new laws and political systems and inspire change in governments around the world.  We work on this mission through research and education with individuals, organizations, and governments. Our current main initiative is sustainable seasteading through facilitating the creation of the first floating city.

As a non-profit organization dedicated to the entire seasteading movement, our role is not to build seasteads, but to empower others to do so. Our Floating City Project envisions a model wherein a nation and a company will establish a public-private partnership to construct and operate a floating city with significant legal autonomy that functions as an integrated and efficient product to meet the needs of citizens. This project builds on over a decade of engineering and legal research, political and maritime industry diplomacy, and building a community of aspiring seasteaders.
For press inquiries contact press@seasteading.org.
 
Seasteading Institute Founder’s Full Statement On Peaceful Platform Near Thailand

I founded The Seasteading Institute in 2008 to enable seasteading communities – floating cities – where pioneers can peacefully test new laws and political systems and inspire change in governments around the world. Our decade of legal research advocates for a variety of strategies within current international law, such as flagged vessels, and partnering with innovative and progressive governments.

A few months ago, a diverse group of activists, engineers, and writers, aided by Thai shipyards, built and launched a platform from Thailand. It was anchored outside territorial waters, as verified by GPS records. This remarkable achievement in affordable ocean technology was done in partnership with Thai shipyards and could help humanity adapt to rising sea levels.

The platform’s first two occupants were a cosmopolitan couple, Chad Elwartowski of America and Nadia Supranee Thepdet of Thailand. For Chad and Nadia, it was the realization of a romantic dream to live openly and peacefully on the ocean, where they released videos of their adventure.

I was shocked and saddened last week by media reports that this couple was charged with treason – punishable in Thailand by death or life imprisonment – simply because no one had filed paperwork for the floating home. This is like charging someone with a capital crime for not registering their car.

I urge compassion for these two brave seasteaders, as their actions were no threat to Thai sovereignty. I am deeply relieved to see that officials are considering dropping the death penalty. This is in Thailand’s best interests, as by threatening a harmless couple with death for a minor infraction, Thailand would only be threatening their own tourism industry.

Instead, Thai authorities should follow the lead of the United Nations, who recommend floating cities be part of the global community's new arsenal of tools in the fight against climate change. Seasteading concepts can help cities like Bangkok which are increasingly at risk of flooding. Some parts of the city are sinking by around two centimetres a year, while sea levels in the Gulf of Thailand are rising.

Our mission is to help humanity by settling the blue frontier, and so our organization works with governments, not against them. We support following international and local laws and look forward to future partnerships with states, NGOs, and communities to test new ideas and solutions for all. We would be honored and delighted to share our research with the Thai government.

While we don’t have enough specifics on this incident to comment on the various legal claims, we do know the United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea. Beyond territorial waters, the world’s oceans are the “common heritage of humanity”, not some unclaimed free-for-all. But neither should they be a death sentence.

Rather, sustainable floating cities are a key tool to address climate change and other 21st century challenges. Please join me in spreading the message that humanity needs its seasteaders in action – not in jail, in hiding, or in the grave.

Patri Friedman,
Founder and Chairman of the Board,
The Seasteading Institute
San Francisco, California, April 22, 2019.

P.s. Some news reports have erroneously stated that our organization directly represents those involved. We wish to clarify that, to best support seasteading in general, we don’t represent or speak on behalf of any particular individual.

Additionally, while we publish general research on international law for educational purposes, local regulations, precedents, and interpretations vary around the world. We do not, and cannot, provide legal advice or representation, and recommend with the utmost vigor that anyone attempting anything like seasteading obtain independent legal counsel.

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April 23, 2019, 12:46:00 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_Cathedral
Coventry Cathedral itself I found pretty challenging and downright scary in parts, but outside is a very moving statue, the Knife Angel
which is being displayed in different cities.


There was a considerable stir around it, with people more seemingly involved than in the church itself. The paper cut-outs had the names and dates of some of the - always young - victims. Not trying to get into debates about these crimes again. Just found it expressive and provoking especially for modern art.

  Now that is one sharp-looking statue!  Shocked
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April 23, 2019, 12:54:35 AM

Press freedom index 2019.



So the solution is to move to ... Svalbard?
This map seems a little overdramatic. Seems like if they can't break into your house take pictures of your Willy and post it on the front page of the Sunday edition then the freedom of the press has a noticeable problem.
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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.
Crypto payment processing startup Moon announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension.
Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning

Interesting. I'd like to know more about what it means to "connect[ing] the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase".

a few years ago i ordered something from overstock.com as i think they were among the 1st retailer to accept btc (or at least the 1st retailer i would use). i dont recall exactly how i paid but i remember it was through something like bitpay or something. it displayed a qr code and btc addy with a timer, i copy/pasted the btc addy and paid from my core wallet on my desktop.

few days later i would up returning the item, and the refund went to my coinbase account. which i did not use to pay for the item, as i said it was paid with my core wallet.

they musta figured it out it was me from my shipping address maybe. i looked in my coinbase tx history just now  and all it says is refund for order xxxxx. no amount or other description.

gonna hunt through emails and such to see if i can find more info on how that went.

anyway maybe they will pull something like that..

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ok found this in my email from mid 2017:

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From: Coinbase [no-reply@coinbase.com]
To: xxxxxxxx

Overstock.com just sent you 0.xxxxx BTC (worth $xx.xx USD) using Coinbase.
Attached message:
InvoiceId: xxxxxxx, InvoicePaymentId: xxxxxx, refundAmount: USD xx.xx

EDIT: and just found the payment in my desktop core wallet labeled "to overstock for xxx" and the amount matched with a tx time about a week earlier.

so how did they match that up..

That seems frightening.

After Goldmann Ballsacks bought Poloniex they sent me a email with my name although I never gave them any identifying info and the only official thing that was tied to that email was coinbase.

They still have my coins hostage until I agree to their TOS and fill out a KYC.

Fuck those institutional insider cocksuckers.
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Man this might sound racist, but this forum has been overtaken by so many nigerians, indonesians and philipinos.  Why cant these guys go work an honest job instead of scamming all over the marketplace boards.
Ah Satoshi finally returns.
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Good morning WO

Bitcoin Next Halt: 4,8K

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BTC will not go up in a straight line, first we retest 4,8K again. From there it is to decide what happens next.
4,8K is a important Fibonacci retracement level
Divergences to be considered with RSI and MACD
OBV shows 4,8K as a possible resistance



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