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January 30, 2018, 07:54:42 PM
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So let's see ... Bitfinex steals 10's of thousands of btc from their customers less than a year ago ... oh I'm sorry "got hacked" ... as much as they could get away with and continue trying to appear to be operating legitimately , "losing" roughly 1/3 of all their customer's funds ...

Then ooops sorry everyone we don't have a bank to send dollars to the US anymore , so everyone US is forced to buy btc to withdraw ...

Meanwhile the same criminal people who run Finex also run Tether ... and they simultaneously issue *themselves* billions of dollars in fake money ... which they use to drag the market kicking and screaming UP (if anyone cares to remember , when bull run started that they initiated , they were several $100's above the other exchanges which did not want to go above $1000 in the first place ... but eventually they just got so out of whack with the rest of the market , the other exchanges finally followed) ... momentum manufactured and voila in a handful of months from the low 1000's to the 20k stupidity fraud value we just saw ...

And no , it doesn't matter if tether's a comparably small % of the total btc cap - that fake couple billion on Finex was more than enough money to force momentum in the btc market from $1000 up (especially if you Fing run an exchange ... and can see everything and trade against your fleeing "customers" ... and yknow use billions of $'s in fake money to prop up the price fraudulently and force stops the whole way with extreme volatility) ...

Sure looks a lot like a goxxed type thing to me , except goxxed *may* have been a combination of incompetence + greed , while finexxed appears much more intentionally criminal ... a matter of time before they're raided / shut down / and or just rob everyone left there and hop a flight to Bali ... stay tuned to find out which ...

The only question in my mind is just how severely the btc price will suffer when their fraud finally comes to an end , and when and how exactly that will take place ...

I'm guessing something along the lines of "hey folks , due to whatever bs reason we just made up / we just "got hacked" again , we're shutting down and everyone can withdraw their pennies on the dollar funds in tether only - goodluck with that as it collapses shortly thereafter , we'll keep the btc."
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January 30, 2018, 07:58:12 PM

sth completetly different, today I - tried - to open a new bank account to be able to transfer money later on this year.
Then I would have multiple account to withdraw to..
I was open about the fact that money from BTC/crypto would be transferered to the account.

I got a call later this afternoon to say that 'Deutsche Bank' will not open account for this???

WTF?? Really? Why??
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January 30, 2018, 07:58:27 PM

Hope that was it.
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January 30, 2018, 07:59:11 PM
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... I still struggle to understand why he recommended it to me, yet never embraced it himself.  I just think it was mainly laziness on his part. ...


Isn´t it possible that your friend simply didn´t had the money to buy
BTC even when the Bitcoin price was low? I guess a few people that believed
in Bitcoin simply missed out due to not being liquid enough to invest.

I´m not sure from which country you are, but even in a wealthy country
like the US the average person is not exactly having a lot of money
that is available for investment.

63% Of Americans Don't Have Enough Savings To Cover A $500 Emergency

Maybe you should reconsider and gift him a few mBTC  Wink



Nah, I know him well enough to know that he has/had enough discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin an amount he was willing to lose.  Interestingly (or sadly) enough, at the time I remember he was really into Physical silver.  He was accumulating quite a bit and we talked about Doomsday scenarios a lot.

You don't think ... my friend could actually be.... ?  No no, don't think it (shudders)  lol

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January 30, 2018, 07:59:35 PM

Guys, I have some questions. Tethers in Bitfinex's  address https://omniexplorer.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=1KYiKJEfdJtap9QX2v9BXJMpz2SfU4pgZw keep increasing to nearly 300 mln now. Why is this? Can users from Bitfinex withraw USD if they have USDT (which upon withdrawal are going to that address)?
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January 30, 2018, 08:00:45 PM

Tether might be a scam, quick sell your bitcoin for Tether! /bitfinexTraders

in fact looks like bitfinexTraders are now bidding/buying relatively more than on other exchanges as if exiting tethers/finex:

https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/books/USD
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January 30, 2018, 08:01:02 PM
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... I still struggle to understand why he recommended it to me, yet never embraced it himself.  I just think it was mainly laziness on his part. ...


Isn´t it possible that your friend simply didn´t had the money to buy
BTC even when the Bitcoin price was low? I guess a few people that believed
in Bitcoin simply missed out due to not being liquid enough to invest.

I´m not sure from which country you are, but even in a wealthy country
like the US the average person is not exactly having a lot of money
that is available for investment.

63% Of Americans Don't Have Enough Savings To Cover A $500 Emergency

Maybe you should reconsider and gift him a few mBTC  Wink



That might be the case, but, from my personal experience, it is mostly BS. I did not earn a lot (eastern eu. country), i cut back on my spendings - like a LOT - to put it in bitcoin. Most people waste money on shit. New clothes they do not need, all kinds of social indicators of wealth like newest phone, car, jewelry etc. I have talked to some of my friends about investing in the long term back than; they have rather spent several bitcoin's price on vacations in 2015/2016, so they can post a facebook report on "look, my life is awesome". Now those vacations costs 15x-20x in bitcoin price :-D
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January 30, 2018, 08:02:01 PM
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I hope someone of you got a few buy orders filled.



can confirm

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January 30, 2018, 08:02:20 PM

What if this whole thing since the last summer was a planned Gox v2.0? Bull running bitcoin to $20k and bear run it back to $1k after tether stuff blows up.

Never say never guys.  Cool
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January 30, 2018, 08:06:27 PM

Still on track btw.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/W5wwj74c-Bitcoin-Long-Term-Trend-Analysis-A-near-term-clue-BLX-Update/
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January 30, 2018, 08:07:12 PM

Afer we got goxed, we finally might get tetherd or finexed. or both. who knows Cheesy
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I hope someone of you got a few buy orders filled.



can confirm



yup. a few orders got filled..
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January 30, 2018, 08:10:25 PM
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This is exactly why when people say that Average Joes were largely responsible for the liftoff in Nov/Dec, I say they are completely full of shit.
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January 30, 2018, 08:12:04 PM
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What if this whole thing since the last summer was a planned Gox v2.0? Bull running bitcoin to $20k and bear run it back to $1k after tether stuff blows up.

Never say never guys.  Cool

Bitcoin will never touch $1k again. If this downtrend continues we will provably see $6k by the end of February and maybe even touch $3k by April or May, but that would be the most bearish case in my opinion.
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January 30, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
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Been reading for a while but only now registered to speak.

Wanted to thank everyone for the great commentary and knowledge sharing.

I am in this for the long run, as stated previously: 1 BTC is 1 BTC. I am confident in the technology, which is what really matters here. This is just a quick stocking up stage. I believe/hope that BTC will only rise stronger. A good rise from this should show confidence in BTC and the community.

Thanks for the positive outlook. I hope to contribute more in the future, but it seems that many active users here are much more knowledgeable than I am.... but there are others that are clearly not. Hopefully I can find a spot to be helpful as well.

HODL/restock is the way through this.

Welcome fellow Hodler!

I’m kind of the same way, in that I have been reading here for longer than I have been registered (and I still rarely post), but I appreciate everyone here, even the trolls, bears and shills I have ignored lol. I have spent anywhere from 4-12 hours a day focusing on bitcoin/crypto these years, and a lot of that is seeing what is going on in here.

The reasons for these dips are so silly compared to around 3-5 years ago. Back then, we legit had no clue what the US government might decide to do. Many of us feared waking up one morning to news that they banned crypto currencies, but strong hands HODL.

Now look where we are, I couldn’t have imagined it all back then. I treated myself just before Christmas, by taking a two week vaca in Vegas, driving a Ferrari and eating amazing food. It was fantastic, and was only possible because of good ol BTC. In fact, twice BTC saved my trip from being ruined. Bank deposits don’t post to accounts on Sundays, so I used a BTC ATM and kept the party going Wink

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January 30, 2018, 08:14:01 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/facebook-cryptocurrency-ads-banned--including-bitcoin-and-icos.html

Facebook banning ALL crypto advertising including the legit companies.

This is EXTREMELY GOOD.

1.  Screw the ICOs.
2.  Screw crypto advertisements.
3.  Screw facebook.  Let them make themselves irrelevant. 

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January 30, 2018, 08:14:13 PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/facebook-cryptocurrency-ads-banned--including-bitcoin-and-icos.html

Facebook banning ALL crypto advertising including the legit companies.

Waiting for ALL crypto to ban Facebook.  Now that would be something.
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January 30, 2018, 08:18:02 PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/30/facebook-cryptocurrency-ads-banned--including-bitcoin-and-icos.html

Facebook banning ALL crypto advertising including the legit companies.

Waiting for ALL crypto to ban Facebook.  Now that would be something.

Mark Zuckerberg was asked by a reporter way back in 2013 if Facebook would ever integrate Bitcoin, and Mark played coy and completely panned the question. When I saw that and how he handled the question, I knew that the existing financial establishment had already gotten to him. He's been silent on the subject ever since.
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January 30, 2018, 08:28:24 PM


I think the whole 2017 runup was Gox on steriods.

When I first even heard what Tether actually was (a random-mined crypto "supposed" to be backed by real money) I just rolled my eyes. Money that costs nothing to make and is in the hands of a single entity can obviously cause all kinds of damage. It explains the huge pumps we saw periodically throughought the year. Anyone accumulating for real would never go charging into the order book like that.

But when you can just conjure up x-millions on a blockchain at will and use them to buy real bitcoin then anything is possible.

This can easily go back to 1k.
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January 30, 2018, 08:29:13 PM

Afer we got goxed, we finally might get tetherd or finexed. or both. who knows Cheesy

Anyone who will be finexed/tethered won't have my shoulder to cry on.
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