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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
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H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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April 04, 2018, 08:19:17 PM
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I just checked into a hotel downtown Toronto. My plan was to hit the ATM's this afternoon, but it's too cold to capitulate on foot. Idk how the hell Jimbo does this.

Shop around to make sure you don't get ripped off by excessive fee rates. Jimbo says some operators raise sell rates and lower buy rates during dips. Others have fixed fees. He was online a few hours ago, so he might login again soon and offer some advice.

... During rallies like last Saturday, bitcoins are at a premium so they raise buy rates and lower sell rates. During panic dumps like the example I posted from last August, the operators have an excess of coins relative to their fiat supply, so they lower buy fees and raise sell fees. It also means that panickers and FOMOers pay a premium for their foolishness while cool holders get a bargain.
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Life is good.
17% buyers fee ? -2% sellers fee ? That's outrageous !

You're getting fucked both ways !

Only buyers are getting fucked at those rates. Sellers are getting a kiss.

I wouldn't pay 17% to buy. I wouldn't pay 16.1% to sell either.



You've gotta shop around.


Here's some more of his tips.

-2 fee, they pay you ?

Any in London?

Yes, it's possible to find negative rates with operators who use dynamic pricing. Buy cheaply during panic dumps and sell cheaply during FOMO rallies.

Yes, both machines dispense cash. The Lamassu requires a cell number to receive a code number text to sell. This is not required to buy.

The General Bytes machine does not require a phone. It simply prints you a QR code to receive the coins you send and after one confirmation you scan the same QR code and it starts spitting out banknotes. Fast, simple, elegant and anonymous.

I don't know about London. UK or ON?  Grin Look here:

https://coinatmradar.com/



... Bitcoinaverage is also the base price used by the majority of BTC ATMs here in Toronto, so to me it's most representative of real-world prices.


Apparently one Toronto ATM is in a sketchy location, so Jimbo won't use it.


JIMBOOOOO!!! To the ATM, rush!!!
(buying commission must be pretty low too)


Actually, the buy fee didn't come down at all at my closest ATM.

The price didn't really dip enough for my liking anyway. Dipping to where it was just a few short days ago isn't usually enough for me to buy.

Between the high fees and the shallow dip it wasn't worth it for me.

A couple of other machines offered better fees, but one is is a sketchy location and the other is too far outside my neighborhood. The cost of a cab would have negated any buying advantage considering the limited amount of fiat cash I have in hand at the moment.

Even if I had more cash and raced over in a cab, I might have been too late anyway. The price has already come halfway back up.

If it dips further and goes below $15k, I might be tempted to reallocate some funds to buy some more. For now however, I'll just hold.


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I just checked into a hotel downtown Toronto. My plan was to hit the ATM's this afternoon, but it's too cold to capitulate on foot. Idk how the hell Jimbo does this.


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and why not try https://bisq.network/



rather than fight the ice... it could be fun... no much ask but with a little advertisement here, no need to have to use any intermediaries Smiley.
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April 04, 2018, 08:37:35 PM

There's a one-way machine in the lobby. One Bitcoin currently selling for a thousand dollars over Preev.
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April 04, 2018, 08:41:41 PM

The fall of the dream must now be finished slowly, according to me, we are going to fall for a long time or after that we have to go up and down a bit more and get out of here.



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Deer Gentlmen. I haven discover market he manipulate. Wales is full very badman, understand? Much times I seen big dumpings like 3-4 bitscoin alsogether, then too will buyback same big numbers coins like that much less pesos is very wicked. How you thinking my analyze? Shall perhaps we see ending of cryocurrency if happened this too much times? Is very dirty fighting this way, in my country we call him grasp the donkey by the cojones before the cocks just awake. I fear.
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Deer Gentlmen. I haven discover market he manipulate. Wales is full very badman, understand? Much times I seen big dumpings like 3-4 bitscoin alsogether, then too will buyback same big numbers coins like that much less pesos is very wicked. How you thinking my analyze? Shall perhaps we see ending of cryocurrency if happened this too much times? Is very dirty fighting this way, in my country we call him grasp the donkey by the cojones before the cocks just awake. I fear.

That's why I advocate 2-factor authentication all the way.
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So CNBC is basing this on Lee's 'Bitcoin Misery Index'. Sure, this has tracked well so far. But what goes into the misery index? I've been reading about this index for several months, and have yet to see any info on how it is calculated. For all I know, it is a scaled, time-shifted copy of the Bitcoin price chart. Well, of course that would track well.
#justsayin'

Anyone know the deets?

remember the assassination of mark haines, like seth rich or assange, in less productive Smiley, but one betrayal to the rockfeller agenda... and impunity for those who did... they are friend with hitlary... she is the goddess that all must whoreship... ahahah... american goyims.

I recognize that there is likely a language barrier here, but I cannot begin to guess at how your reply is in any way a response to my inquiry, which you quoted.

no you do,...

And again. Complete non sequitur. Nothing in your reply has any bearing on what the Bitcoin Misery Index is composed of.

Now get your last irrelevant word in. I'm out.
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So CNBC is basing this on Lee's 'Bitcoin Misery Index'. Sure, this has tracked well so far. But what goes into the misery index? I've been reading about this index for several months, and have yet to see any info on how it is calculated. For all I know, it is a scaled, time-shifted copy of the Bitcoin price chart. Well, of course that would track well.
#justsayin'

Anyone know the deets?

remember the assassination of mark haines, like seth rich or assange, in less productive Smiley, but one betrayal to the rockfeller agenda... and impunity for those who did... they are friend with hitlary... she is the goddess that all must whoreship... ahahah... american goyims.

I recognize that there is likely a language barrier here, but I cannot begin to guess at how your reply is in any way a response to my inquiry, which you quoted.

no you do,...

And again. Complete non sequitur. Nothing in your reply has any bearing on what the Bitcoin Misery Index is composed of.

Now get your last irrelevant word in. I'm out.

what are you spining again? I am looking for a spot in london for the assisted suicide of all brits who tried to pin russia on skripal... now they have to be suicided... bye bye may :

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-04/all-russiagate-roads-lead-london-evidence-emerges-joseph-mifsuds-links-uk

remember potus maybe who he is, but he ain't alone... there is some violent payback coming your way dirty lowlives who whoreship a queen...

on the subject of england what was the name of the scamy exchange based in the uk who asked exorbitant fees to list any coin there? I don't remember... what happen to them? it was greenish I think...
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April 04, 2018, 09:04:19 PM

Deer Gentlmen. I haven discover market he manipulate. Wales is full very badman, understand? Much times I seen big dumpings like 3-4 bitscoin alsogether, then too will buyback same big numbers coins like that much less pesos is very wicked. How you thinking my analyze? Shall perhaps we see ending of cryocurrency if happened this too much times? Is very dirty fighting this way, in my country we call him grasp the donkey by the cojones before the cocks just awake. I fear.

That's why I advocate 2-factor authentication all the way.

If you solve lightning, then you solve the hard log problem.
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April 04, 2018, 09:09:35 PM

The cryptomarket cap is down $500 billion.  Boss man says buy the dip.  



 Note:  this is a real tweet from the verified account.  I checked twice.
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Deer Gentlmen. I haven discover market he manipulate. Wales is full very badman, understand? Much times I seen big dumpings like 3-4 bitscoin alsogether, then too will buyback same big numbers coins like that much less pesos is very wicked. How you thinking my analyze? Shall perhaps we see ending of cryocurrency if happened this too much times? Is very dirty fighting this way, in my country we call him grasp the donkey by the cojones before the cocks just awake. I fear.

That's why I advocate 2-factor authentication all the way.

If you solve lightning, then you solve the hard log problem.

Hard log problem very easy solving. Is many hard logs in Wales. You go Wales bring good timber ax, maybe 2 (1 for bakup), make many hard good logs. Problem solve. But careful! Becase Wales full very badman, as gentlman V8 say.
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@jbreher that bmi stuff is behind a paywall at fundstrat.com . it's probably balls
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April 04, 2018, 09:21:48 PM

@jbreher that bmi stuff is behind a paywall at fundstrat.com . it's probably balls

just the name... mysery... I mean... who this poster think he is? the second coming of the christ? too much cheering at his community synagogue...

the typical fellas who momy told him he was smart, who dady paid for a paper to prove it...

p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c.
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Congratulations, Ladies and Gents:

We have achieved PEAK MISERY! We're talking UNPARALLELED MISERY, not seen since Sept 2011. People actually had a valid reasons to be miserable then. Their Bitcorn only worth two dollar.

Now, we're just a bunch of whiny instabears worried about such terribly frightening issues as futures, taxation, regulation, hacks, bankruptcy settlements, and for fuck's sake, the tanking stock market?

Seriously people, if you can't see these issues are all GOOD NEWS for Bitcoin going forward, then GTFO. Sell your coins to someone worthy of sweetly CODLing them, for years to come if they have to. (OTC or P2P, of course. Don't you dare touch the Cartel's manipulated exchanges.)

This is the moment of truth. This is when baby lambonaires are born.

The last four of Bitcoin's MOST MISERABLE MOMENTS showed positive returns after 1, 3, 6, and 12 months. Even Sept 2011's bag-holders showed 20% returns after one year!

I know none of us have any capital left. But think of all your easily manipulated grandmamas, parents, teachers, aunts and uncles! You've likely already hacked into their accounts anyway, so get in there and BTFD on their behalf so that they, too, can share in this glorious MISERY!





The Bitcoin Misery Index, BMI, Is Flashing A Buy Signal
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April 04, 2018, 09:25:00 PM

Has anybody ever collected these poll results?
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April 04, 2018, 09:27:24 PM

Has anybody ever collected these poll results?

 Yep!  We trade them in for BeeCash and make it rain.
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April 04, 2018, 09:31:18 PM

Related sentiment news.

DJIA +0.96, S&P500 +1.16, NASDAQ +1.45.

Influential Wall Street people in a closed invitation-only meeting voted against tweaking the well-known old adage. No replacement, no March, May stays. For the time being. Thanks to the Plunge Protection Team.
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Congratulations, Ladies and Gents:

We have achieved PEAK MISERY!

If you say so, man.
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Congratulations, Ladies and Gents:

We have achieved PEAK MISERY! We're talking UNPARALLELED MISERY, not seen since Sept 2011. People actually had a valid reasons to be miserable then. Their Bitcorn only worth two dollar.

Now, we're just a bunch of whiny instabears~snip

 

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