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So Friday Bitfinex legal team and NY AG prosecutors will meet in court. Good news is this will likely be a nothing burger and no new evidence/Fud will be presented.

What may turn out to be very bad news however is the fact that on Monday at 2:15 eastern time, the NY AG prosecutors have been ordered appear in front of the NY State Supreme Court to present evidence ("show cause") as to why there case has merit and should not be vacated.



Why Slayer you may ask could this be a Fudsters dream??



Because prosecutors generally hold back as much evidence as they can when first bringing cases forward. They do this because not only are they pricks, but because the less the defendant knows about the evidence the more intimidating it is. Defendants enter a state of panic wondering about all the misdeeds they have ever done. This is not only an intimidation tactic but it can act to cause a defendant to get sloppy and start tipping of the prosecution by making calls or sending emails that may be monitored as they scramble to cover their tracks.

Now the NY Supreme Court is forcing the AG's hand and they will have to reveal at least some juicy evidence which may give the Fudsters the ammo they crave. The fact that the Arizona man and Israeli woman were recently charged is likely not a coincidence as their testimony against Bitfinex executives would go a long way towards showing cause.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/arizona-man-and-israeli-woman-charged-connection-providing-shadow-banking-services

"U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman said:  “Reginald Fowler and Ravid Yosef allegedly ran a shadow bank that processed hundreds of millions of dollars of unregulated transactions on behalf of numerous cryptocurrency exchanges.  Their organization allegedly skirted the anti-money laundering safeguards required of licensed institutions that ensure the U.S. financial system is not used for criminal purposes, and did so through lies and deceit.  Thanks to the investigative work of the FBI and the IRS-CI, they will be prosecuted for their actions.”

FBI Assistant Director William F. Sweeney Jr. said:  “Lying to banks and skirting the regulations put in place by the banking industry is a violation of federal law, a crime both Fowler and Yosef are charged with today.  Taking it one step further, as alleged, Fowler himself directed the ebb and flow of significant amounts of money to and from these various bank accounts, despite the fact that he was not licensed to do so.  May this be a reminder to all that there are consequences to engaging in fraudulent behavior and risky business practices.”

IRS-CI Acting Special Agent in Charge Jonathan D. Larsen said:  “As this indictment shows, IRS-CI will continue to follow the money, no matter if it's virtual currency, to bring criminals to justice. This should serve as a warning to cyber-criminals who think they can hide behind virtual currency that IRS-CI is fully committed to unraveling these schemes.”"


Here coindesk lays out claims that these two "criminals" were connected to Crypto Capital and Bitfinex

https://www.coindesk.com/two-charged-with-running-shadow-banking-service-for-crypto-exchanges



Rest assured that behind the scenes multiple regulatory and law enforcement agencies are conspiring together to get their paws on Bitfinex money and to make juicy career enhancing headlines for themselves. The arrest this week was just the first signal the sharks are circling. You can see here the US AG, The FBI, and the Criminal Investigations arm of the IRS each are involved with these arrests and no doubt they are trying to tie it to Bitfinex. We already have three grubby parasites putting their names in press releases as they seek money and glory from cracking down on the evil and dangerous and ever so naughty  Roll Eyes Bitcoin world.

So far the AG has signaled that this is a cash grab/shakedown of Bitfinex bc they know their is money to be had from the large exchange. My guess is that if Bitfinex gets too feisty in fighting back that the AG will use the threat or act of escalating this to a criminal case to force the Bitfinex execs to bend the knee and hand the AG the shakedown money that she inevitably wants her paws on.



The State Supreme court could certainly rule against the AG, but in general when you go up against the government in court its all just a kangaroo court and the rubber stamp comes soon enough from one crony to another. In the case of a Bitcoin exchange looking for a fair shake in a liberal state where the entrenched financial interests that run the state despise Bitcoin, expect the court to be in ultra Kangaroo mode.



TLDR - potential huge Fudstorm Monday, trust no one.




UPDATE: Last of V8s kindly pointed out that both fraud suspects were not arrested. Reginald Fowler was arrested and as far as I can determine a warrant has been issued for the Israeli female but she is not in custody atm.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/01/alliance-american-football-reggie-fowler-investor-arrested-bank-fraud

Also I have since noticed the Feds have already seized some of Bitfinex's missing money.

https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/tether/feds-justice-hsbc-account-bitfinex-seized/




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May 02, 2019, 08:16:08 AM

Exclusive: Bitcoin donations to ISIS soared day before Sri Lanka bombings

Whitestream found that on the day before the bombings, there was a sharp rise of hundreds of percent in the bitcoin balance held by CoinPayments, a company through which donations to ISIS are changed into bitcoin from regular currency. On April 20, the day before the Easter attacks, the balance in the main wallet of CoinPayments rose from just $500,000 to $4.5 million.

The following day on which the lethal attacks took place, the wallet's balance dropped back to $500,000, the same as the average daily monthly balance during the previous nine months.

Whitestream said, "CoinPayments admits that there wallet was involved but denies that it is connected to ISIS. It's possible that the company is not aware about the usage of their wallets, erhaps because ISIS uses straw companies in order to transfer the money.

Levy told "Globes" about the process by which Whitestream identifies usage by ISIS of a bitcoin wallet. "Firstly we identified a certain bitcoin address that received several donations at different times, and we succeeded in verifying that two of the donations came from the address that was presented on ISIS's donations website. Even though the amount on this address was only several dollars, through this wallet we were able to identify that ISIS collects the donations via CoinPayments. This address is just a junction, which reveals the link between CoinPayments and ISIS's donations. Our assumption is that the terrorist organization probably possesses many bitcoin addresses through CoinPayments, with every donation sent to a different address. On the day before the Sri Lanka terror attacks we identified two relatively big transactions at this address with bitcoins worth about $9,800."

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-exclusive-isis-funded-sri-lanka-bombings-with-bitcoin-donations-1001284276
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The following contains important information about our Founder Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto, From his emails to forum posts. this is a great opportunity to learn more about our Founder's intentions before he disappeared
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138181.0  feel free to drop some merit to user.

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/


@Saint-loup May I add your comment in my thread related to Srilankan bomb blast?

Ofcourse after verifying the source.

I keep wondering how are Israeli intelligence keep updating every news so fast related to this incident. I know they are good but still.

they were the first to react when bomb blast took place, if I am not wrong with in one hour they published the whole report.
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@Saint-loup May I add your comment in my thread related to Srilankan bomb blast?
Off course. You don't need to ask for that. Where is your thread please?
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@Saint-loup May I add your comment in my thread related to Srilankan bomb blast?
Off course. You don't need to ask for that. Where is your thread please?

Thanks. appreciate that. will add after I find couple of more source.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134326.0
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On monday we will see a huge drop in prince. We must hold, and then the true bull market will come.
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May 02, 2019, 08:49:59 AM

It cost only around $6500 to create havoc on the BSV chain.

What 'havoc' is this of which you speak?

Cry ‘Havoc!’ and let slip the dogs of war

Harsh reality meets shattered dreams.
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Too little information.

Which one bought Bitcoin?

Are you getting smarter, fatty?

The last few times that you came to this thread you were spouting out some BIG Blocker altcoin pumping nonsense and bashing bitcoin.  You figuring out that bitcoin is the "one"?  Yet?

I think it is the question "who can afford to buy bitcoin", not who bought bitcoin that is the deciding factor anyway.
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On monday we will see a huge drop in prince. We must hold, and then the true bull market will come.

Can't wait for India's first bullet train. That`ll be a sight to behold. Grin Grin Grin
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Too little information.

Which one bought Bitcoin?

Are you getting smarter, fatty?

The last few times that you came to this thread you were spouting out some BIG Blocker altcoin pumping nonsense and bashing bitcoin.  You figuring out that bitcoin is the "one"?  Yet?

I think it is the question "who can afford to buy bitcoin", not who bought bitcoin that is the deciding factor anyway.

I am not sure about what point you are attempting to make, goldkingcoiner?

In bitcoin, you can invest $5 per week, if you want, so if you were to persist with such a habit of investing $5 per week for more than a year, perhaps you might end up investing only $250, but that still can add up into a decent amount of BTC accumulation.  

In 2015, such a persistent BTC investment strategy would have accumulated a whole bitcoin in less than one year, and in the past two years, such a persistent strategy could have accumulated quite a bit more than .1BTC in that two-year time period.

In other words, you do not have to be rich to buy bitcoin, but investing in bitcoin by continuing to buy, and continuing to hodl and accumulate BTC will likely cause you to be a lot richer in the future (especially looking 5 years or more down the road) than if you had invested that $5 per week in some other currency or asset class (crypto or otherwise), and it is also true that many other asset classes including other cryptos are not going to allow you to invest in $5 weekly increments and also to have some liquidity confidence, for example.
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May 02, 2019, 09:03:38 AM

nice malapropism here

<09:55:22> "btctrader": Wonder how long until exchanges are back in parody

or perhaps he knows exactly what he's saying
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Would Monday really be horror? Or already priced in....  Roll Eyes

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Too little information.

Which one bought Bitcoin?

Are you getting smarter, fatty?

The last few times that you came to this thread you were spouting out some BIG Blocker altcoin pumping nonsense and bashing bitcoin.  You figuring out that bitcoin is the "one"?  Yet?

I think it is the question "who can afford to buy bitcoin", not who bought bitcoin that is the deciding factor anyway.

I am not sure about what point you are attempting to make, goldkingcoiner?

In bitcoin, you can invest $5 per week, if you want, so if you were to persist with such a habit of investing $5 per week for more than a year, perhaps you might end up investing only $250, but that still can add up into a decent amount of BTC accumulation.  

In 2015, such a persistent BTC investment strategy would have accumulated a whole bitcoin in less than one year, and in the past two years, such a persistent strategy could have accumulated quite a bit more than .1BTC in that two-year time period.

In other words, you do not have to be rich to buy bitcoin, but investing in bitcoin by continuing to buy, and continuing to hodl and accumulate BTC will likely cause you to be a lot richer in the future (especially looking 5 years or more down the road) than if you had invested that $5 per week in some other currency or asset class (crypto or otherwise), and it is also true that many other asset classes including other cryptos are not going to allow you to invest in $5 weekly increments and also to have some liquidity confidence, for example.

Well yeah, guess it is a good point but can or will a person who owes 150k make an investment that will significantly impact their life >150k+profit?
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May 02, 2019, 09:27:48 AM

Would Monday really be horror? Or already priced in....  Roll Eyes



It may be a horror for shorts and cause real fear at Bitfinex to where everyone trades tethers at any price for Bitcoin to get them the fuck outa Bitfinished and we pump to 10k by Tuesday.  Cheesy

Probably the real horror will be for foolish tards with money on Bitfinex and the Bitfinex execs worried about the Booty Warrior coming for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WClv4U5B8



I dunno wtf is going on LOL.
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Its not so hard to believe now you have rockets popping back and forth to space and landing perfectly, like in some unbelievable 80s video game.

Sure I can believe in that space transport link but I want to know why its become cheaper and more efficient to pop up and back down again, normal mining is very much effected by efficiency and difficulty of extraction and we have many reserves in gold or oil that just get left where they are from costs associated with extraction.   What technology has enabled that difference and have the fundamentals of gravity vs energy consumption have been altered to make it easier.   Its possible we see progress but theres a story behind that idea and I've yet to hear of that development to enable a knock on effect to other industries.

I hate to agree with HP Lovecraft but it is a bit of a mistake to assume efficiency via space is going to occur easily.   Mostly its related to energy required to break free from earths gravity, the weight of the fuels and then the friction of reentering.   I dont know, Im not a rocket scientist but we'd surely hear about developments or alterations to the balance of play.  
I'm far more inclined to assume the status quo for commodity production will continue for the next 50 years.   The biggest things I've heard of would be along the lines of Bio-diesel production via specialised algae.   Unfortunately that is not yet resilient enough to deliver in mass production capacity that would disrupt or alter market prices for energy.   If anything like that happens it'll alter all sorts of things including gold production which has a long term relation to cost of oil.  
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May 02, 2019, 09:32:55 AM

Great Grandpa bought GOLD ...
Grandpa bought BONDS ...
Dad bought STOCKS ...
We buy BITCOIN ...

https://twitter.com/ItsMrMoe/status/1123703988728279043
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Would Monday really be horror? Or already priced in....  Roll Eyes



It may be a horror for shorts and cause real fear at Bitfinex to where everyone trades tethers at any price for Bitcoin to get them the fuck outa Bitfinished and we pump to 10k by Tuesday.  Cheesy



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Square customers bought $65.5 million of Bitcoin last quarter on Cash App.

That’s 4 straight quarters of *accelerating* revenue growth for Square's Bitcoin business, and 92% growth YoY.

TO THE MOON 🚀


https://twitter.com/kerooke/status/1123681929998622720

If BTC sales on Square Cash maintain current growth rates, then by the next Bitcoin halving (May 2020), roughly 2 BTC will be purchased on Square Cash for every new BTC that is mined.


https://twitter.com/yassineARK/status/1123730622881705986
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