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[lightfoot]

Eh, it's the price of living in a moderately civilized society. If I was located in a dumpster like Syria or insert name of lawless hellhole I would think differently, but how many of us bitcoiners really live in Detroit?

[gentlemand]

Haha!

I was looking at living costs in The Philippines earlier. I thought about nutildah (no homo) & had a little look.

It’s so fucking cheap.

I refuse to move anywhere sweaty. And though I don't know how sweaty it is there it's certainly close enough to other places filled with people sweating to raise my suspicions to Defcon 1.

I could buy a rotating army of small Filipinos to sit in fridges and then run out and press themselves against me until they warm up, but I think I'd rather stay put and incur a bit more expense.

[Biodom]

Where is the world it is pleasantly warm, but not hot at least 8-9 mo/year?
A sea and or a lake is required, preferably english speaking (at least in a large part) populace.
I cannot think of anywhere apart from few small places in The Caribbean, with a threat of hurricanes, etc.
I've been through several hurricanes already, it's a thing to avoid if possible.
Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

[jupiter9]

Good evening guys,

enjoying some greek wine and observing $8660... You guys with me?!

No! Far away from the greek wines and beaches. Not even close to your moon. Jupiter here! Equivalent of the Greek Zeus! Festivals of viniculture and wine were devoted to Jupiter.

[bkbirge]

Where is the world it is pleasantly warm, but not hot at least 8-9 mo/year?
A sea and or a lake is required, preferably english speaking (at least in a large part) populace.
I cannot think of anywhere apart from few small places in The Caribbean, with a threat of hurricanes, etc.
I've been through several hurricanes already, it's a thing to avoid if possible.
Without considering language, I was also thinking about Greece (including Corfu), some Mediterranean islands (Crete, etc.), maybe Canary islands.
Maybe I should learn Spanish or Portuguese, finally.

Suggestions?

Hawaii. Side of the volcano, pick your elevation and you can pick your climate. Then a few minutes to either the summit and wearing a winter jacket, or to the beach and wearing nearly nothing. Of course there's that little issue of cost of living.

[gentlemand]

I thought this had been settled years ago.

It's Jaywick of course.

Sun, sea, affordable property, 'community spirit' which is important as you get older and all a short hop from London.



The ocean is just over the concrete wall at the end.

[efialtis]

Good evening guys,

enjoying some greek wine and observing $8660... You guys with me?!

No! Far away from the greek wines and beaches. Not even close to your moon. Jupiter here! Equivalent of the Greek Zeus!

Where is that man? I feel sorry! Life is good with Greek wine!

[bkbirge]

LOL, how is this guy still getting press? ...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/interview-craig-wright-still-999999-sure-that-hell-get-btc-fortune

Wright said that he formed the trust “back when Bitcoin was not worth anything at all” as a prescient move to secure his prospective assets. When asked why he himself is not one of the trustees, he said:

    “Because I’m smart enough not to be. Because then people could force me to actually move coins. You can take things from trustees. If it was mine, people could have seized assets from me.”

[Biodom]

I thought this had been settled years ago.

It's Jaywick of course.

Sun, sea, affordable property, 'community spirit' which is important as you get older and all a short hop from London.



The ocean is just over the concrete wall at the end.

Well, every city or surrounding city has a similar area.
That's not what I saw when I visited England, mostly London, but been to Amersham as well-nice little city, very green and pleasant.
Did not get the obsession about the 200 year old (or older) houses to live in, but I guess that it is a "preservation" spirit.

[P_Shep]

LOL, how is this guy still getting press? ...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/interview-craig-wright-still-999999-sure-that-hell-get-btc-fortune

Wright said that he formed the trust “back when Bitcoin was not worth anything at all” as a prescient move to secure his prospective assets. When asked why he himself is not one of the trustees, he said:

    “Because I’m smart enough not to be. Because then people could force me to actually move coins. You can take things from trustees. If it was mine, people could have seized assets from me.”

An one might ask... "Pray tell, who and why would anyone seize assets from you? Hmmm?"

[P_Shep]

I thought this had been settled years ago.

It's Jaywick of course.

Sun, sea, affordable property, 'community spirit' which is important as you get older and all a short hop from London.



The ocean is just over the concrete wall at the end.

I just adore the rustic prefab aesthetic.

[bitcoinPsycho]

I thought this had been settled years ago.

It's Jaywick of course.

Sun, sea, affordable property, 'community spirit' which is important as you get older and all a short hop from London.



The ocean is just over the concrete wall at the end.

And they all proclaim to know the kray twins

[gentlemand]

Well, every city or surrounding city has a similar area.
That's not what I saw when I visited England, mostly London, but been to Amersham as well-nice little city, very green and pleasant.
Did not get the obsession about the 200 year old (or older) houses to live in, but I guess that it is a "preservation" spirit.

If you ever see a modern housing estate being built in Britain you will understand. Postage stamp gardens, hardly any parking, paper walls, no amenities, no public transport and they're thrown up as quickly as possible for maximum profit and often delivered with countless faults like overflowing drains and windows with gaping gaps in them. Many of their show homes have special 3/4 scale furniture to make them look bigger inside.

I spent the night in a typical one once and you could hear someone scratching their nose at the opposite end of the building. Lord knows how you'd manage your first wank without the whole family asking you how it went at breakfast the following day.

There are some good ones. They're rare.

We have on average the smallest and no doubt most expensive houses in Europe.

Older is almost always better.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

@gentlemand

True dat!

Used to live in a 3 storey new build house. Heard the next door neighbours arguing through the wall one time.

‘He doesn’t love you like I do’
‘Babe, I introduced you to my son’
 ‘If you leave, you’ll find me hanging out of the window’
‘Babe, I’ll start my training again’

Top entertainment, they were there 1 month.

[gentlemand]

I guess a free soap opera is the one upside.

I knew a guy who lived on a new build estate. His neighbours complained about his snoring. They were both in detached houses.

The most bizarre thing is that what was once thought of as shit social housing is actually vastly more liveable than what's billed as an exciting modern executive luxury new build development.

A 1930s council house is rock solid and bursting with space and storage.

I used to live in a 19th century Glasgow tenement which was a flat out slum when built. Now the space is beyond the height of luxury.

[infofront]

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[infofront]

Haha!

I was looking at living costs in The Philippines earlier. I thought about nutildah (no homo) & had a little look.

It’s so fucking cheap.

I refuse to move anywhere sweaty. And though I don't know how sweaty it is there it's certainly close enough to other places filled with people sweating to raise my suspicions to Defcon 1.

I could buy a rotating army of small Filipinos to sit in fridges and then run out and press themselves against me until they warm up, but I think I'd rather stay put and incur a bit more expense.

I was just there for three weeks recently. The cost of many goods is higher than the US. So unprepared food, unless you buy in-season produce, will cost a little more. However, services are so cheap they're almost free. So the cost of prepared food will be much cheaper.

I can't emphasize how cheap human labor is there. I had a manicure-pedicure for $3 (my wife insisted). An excellent haircut for $1.20. Massages are around $4-$5 per hour. We had a couple plumbers doing repairs on my wife's house (no sexual innuendo) for about 1.5 days, and it was $35, including parts. So, services are all basically 5%-10% of the cost here.

Very sweaty when you leave an air conditioned space, however.

[P_Shep]

I guess a free soap opera is the one upside.

The most bizarre thing is that what was once thought of as shit social housing is actually vastly more liveable than what's billed as an exciting modern executive luxury new build development.

A 1930s council house is rock solid and bursting with space and storage.

I used to live in a 19th century Glasgow tenement which was a flat out slum when built. Now the space is beyond the height of luxury.

I want to upgrade at some point to house from my tiny flat. But all 'houses' that are available are the ones in the plethora of out of town estates. It makes be want to vomit to event drive on to one, let alone buy one.
Prospects are not good.

[Biodom]

Haha!

I was looking at living costs in The Philippines earlier. I thought about nutildah (no homo) & had a little look.

It’s so fucking cheap.

I refuse to move anywhere sweaty. And though I don't know how sweaty it is there it's certainly close enough to other places filled with people sweating to raise my suspicions to Defcon 1.

I could buy a rotating army of small Filipinos to sit in fridges and then run out and press themselves against me until they warm up, but I think I'd rather stay put and incur a bit more expense.

I was just there for three weeks recently. The cost of many goods is higher than the US. So unprepared food, unless you buy in-season produce, will cost a little more. However, services are so cheap they're almost free. So the cost of prepared food will be much cheaper.

I can't emphasize how cheap human labor is there. I had a manicure-pedicure for $3 (my wife insisted). An excellent haircut for $1.20. Massages are around $4-$5 per hour. We had a couple plumbers doing repairs on my wife's house for about 1.5 days, and it was $35, including parts. So, services are all basically 5%-10% of the cost here.

Very sweaty when you leave an air conditioned space, however.

imagine being a bitcoiner there when btc strikes 100K.
It would probably feel like you are Mansa Musa, spreading the wealth where you travel, causing intense inflation in local services, lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_historical_figures

[gentlemand]

I want to upgrade at some point to house from my tiny flat. But all 'houses' that are available are the ones in the plethora of out of town estates. It makes be want to vomit to event drive on to one, let alone buy one.
Prospects are not good.

We'll always have a bed for you in Jaywick as I assume that most on this thread will now be moving there.

It will likely be a mattress in a puddle though.

I was just there for three weeks recently. The cost of many goods is higher than the US. So unprepared food, unless you buy in-season produce, will cost a little more. However, services are so cheap they're almost free. So the cost of prepared food will be much cheaper.

I can't emphasize how cheap human labor is there. I had a manicure-pedicure for $3 (my wife insisted). An excellent haircut for $1.20. Massages are around $4-$5 per hour. We had a couple plumbers doing repairs on my wife's house (no sexual innuendo) for about 1.5 days, and it was $35, including parts. So, services are all basically 5%-10% of the cost here.

Very sweaty when you leave an air conditioned space, however.

It's a confirmed no then.

The human labour thing is pretty interesting, especially if goods are little or no cheaper. I don't get how economies like that work. They probably don't.

I can't really remember the last time I required anyone else's time. I guess I could rent someone with really long hair to flop it over me and shuffle behind and that'll be cheaper than a wig so make the move worthwhile.