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[JayJuanGee]

Last poll:

How long you going to let the new poll run, infofront?  Until the next ATH is reached?  This one could take a while, unless you are amongst the super-optimistic here - which still might be late 2020, at best, no?  and probably mid-to-late 2021, more realistically.

   In other words, we have to get passed our ATH first.. and then figure out how many corrections there might be along the way to a new ATH  - assuming we get a new ATH - unlike the naysayer first answer.

[kurious]

[Snip]

The most bizarre thing is that what was once thought of as shit social housing is actually vastly more liveable than what's billed as an exciting modern executive luxury new build development.

A 1930s council house is rock solid and bursting with space and storage.

Social housing in the UK has always had regulations, like minimum room size requirements.  

New private builds have no such crazy and outdated rules.  So you can have what are effectively broom cupboards that are described as single bedrooms, even though you can only get a single mattress in there if it's placed vertically.

Basically you can't afford to be poor in the UK. That is if you want to buy a home with an actual decent horizontal bedroom with enough room for a shag in.

[kurious]

I am on RightMove, looking into Jaywick Sands: The New Bitcoin Utopia.  Looks promising!

[HairyMaclairy]

When Ve ge TA ?

Right now the price is a bit overexcited and needs a cup of tea and a lie down.  Zat is all. 

[Biodom]

[Snip]

The most bizarre thing is that what was once thought of as shit social housing is actually vastly more liveable than what's billed as an exciting modern executive luxury new build development.

A 1930s council house is rock solid and bursting with space and storage.

Social housing in the UK has always had regulations, like minimum room size requirements.  

New private builds have no such crazy and outdated rules.  So you can have what are effectively broom cupboards that are described as single bedrooms, even though you can only get a single mattress in there if it's placed vertically.

Basically you can't afford to be poor in the UK. That is if you want to buy a home with an actual decent horizontal bedroom with enough room for a shag in.

The solution is simple: people just need to become smaller in size.  /s

[El duderino_]

When Ve ge TA ?

Right now the price is a bit overexcited and needs a cup of tea and a lie down.  Zat is all. 

[HairyMaclairy]

Conga rats Bit serve

THanks!

What kind of game are you guys playing with my nick? 

It’s better than Bi-sterve

[fillippone]

I have been to a local Bitcoin meet-up this evening.
Host/Valet: Giacomo Zucco
Special Guest: Saifedean Ammous.
I think you know the guy.



Best quote of the night:

“The most subversive thing you can to with bitcoin is saving”

 ❤ï¸�#nohomo

That was great!

Edit: the concept has been told a few times:

"The only crime you should do with Bitcoin is saving and that's the most powerful of the crimes"
@saifedean

https://twitter.com/mir_btc/status/1219341317500821505?s=21

[bkbirge]

Haha!

I was looking at living costs in The Philippines earlier. I thought about nutildah (no homo) & had a little look.

It’s so fucking cheap.

I refuse to move anywhere sweaty. And though I don't know how sweaty it is there it's certainly close enough to other places filled with people sweating to raise my suspicions to Defcon 1.

I could buy a rotating army of small Filipinos to sit in fridges and then run out and press themselves against me until they warm up, but I think I'd rather stay put and incur a bit more expense.

I was just there for three weeks recently. The cost of many goods is higher than the US. So unprepared food, unless you buy in-season produce, will cost a little more. However, services are so cheap they're almost free. So the cost of prepared food will be much cheaper.

I can't emphasize how cheap human labor is there. I had a manicure-pedicure for $3 (my wife insisted). An excellent haircut for $1.20. Massages are around $4-$5 per hour. We had a couple plumbers doing repairs on my wife's house for about 1.5 days, and it was $35, including parts. So, services are all basically 5%-10% of the cost here.

Very sweaty when you leave an air conditioned space, however.

imagine being a bitcoiner there when btc strikes 100K.
It would probably feel like you are Mansa Musa, spreading the wealth where you travel, causing intense inflation in local services, lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_historical_figures

I think it might feel like you have a giant target painted on your back.

[gentlemand]

I think it might feel like you have a giant target painted on your back.

Cheap labour, baby.

[HairyMaclairy]

I’m really not happy at the thought of paying 20%, that sucks man. Why should I pay so much money when the majority of my coins were bought for so little.

The government does not deserve to take so much from us.

It is what it is. I priced it in from the off. And it can be much, much worse in other places. Ireland's 33% I think.

If I change my mind I have my eyes on this palace - https://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-88276847.html?currencyCode=GBP  but need to get my skates on before going abroad results in gammons stoning you to death.

Lol fuck off, your on site gardener will live in a better place than that when you sell

I am pretty sure Pomerania is a dog breed. 

[HairyMaclairy]

Lol fuck off, your on site gardener will live in a better place than that when you sell

Hey, I'm a doer upper.

And I'm researching floating buildings so I may as well start with a disposable one.

Haha!

I was looking at living costs in The Philippines earlier. I thought about nutildah (no homo) & had a little look.

It’s so fucking cheap.

You can buy apartments in Japan for $100.  The only downside is you have to live in a massive, completely empty apartment building by yourself and it’s freaky as fuck.  

People buy them to use as ski lodges 1 week per year.  

You can buy freestanding 4 bedroom houses for $10k and rent them out to gringos for $2k per week.  

[kurious]

[Snip]

The most bizarre thing is that what was once thought of as shit social housing is actually vastly more liveable than what's billed as an exciting modern executive luxury new build development.

A 1930s council house is rock solid and bursting with space and storage.

Social housing in the UK has always had regulations, like minimum room size requirements.  

New private builds have no such crazy and outdated rules.  So you can have what are effectively broom cupboards that are described as single bedrooms, even though you can only get a single mattress in there if it's placed vertically.

Basically you can't afford to be poor in the UK. That is if you want to buy a home with an actual decent horizontal bedroom with enough room for a shag in.

The solution is simple: people just need to become smaller in size.  /s

That's sheer genius!  Hey, you know what - I think Boris Johnson is looking for a new housing minister with bright new ideas. 

Actually, maybe don't apply - he would probably take it seriously and make it gov. policy

[HairyMaclairy]

Stupid lefties trying to shrink the world’s population

[kurious]

Lol fuck off, your on site gardener will live in a better place than that when you sell

Hey, I'm a doer upper.

And I'm researching floating buildings so I may as well start with a disposable one.

Haha!

I was looking at living costs in The Philippines earlier. I thought about nutildah (no homo) & had a little look.

It’s so fucking cheap.

You can buy apartments in Japan for $100.  The only downside is you have to live in a massive, completely empty apartment building by yourself and it’s freaky as fuck.  

People buy them to use as ski lodges 1 week per year.  

You can buy freestanding 4 bedroom houses for $10k and rent them out to gringos for $2k per week.  

I thought Japan was notoriously expensive, Hairy - or is that just Tokyo..?

[HairyMaclairy]

I don’t know about Tokyo property prices.  

But they still haven’t recovered from the 90s property bubble in the regions, including the ski areas.  Also they have no appreciation for older buildings.  To the Japanese, any building older than 20 years has zero value and has to be knocked down and rebuilt from scratch.  It doesn’t help they have no fucking clue about basic maintenance.  But a bit of paint and a bathroom refresh can work wonders.  You might have to work out the plumbing yourself because Japanese plumbers are mostly incompetent. 

Gringos don’t have these refined sensibilities and are perfectly willing to stay in a house that was built in 1995.  Stupid gringos.  

Pricing in Japan is fucked.  A bottle of Jim Beam is $9 and an apple is $20.   People focus on the price of apples and not on the price of whisky.  

[gentlemand]

Were they nice to you there or did they poke at your eyelids and complain about white people smelling like wet dogs?

My last experience of Japan was watching Enter The Void so I'm too scared to go there now.

[HairyMaclairy]

They were remarkably patient and polite and pissed themselves laughing at my pidgin Japanese.  Much more patient than a cashier in Sainsbury.   We were in ski towns so YMMV.  

[Icygreen]

Spent plenty of time in Thailand in the past, haven't been there in years.
Maybe this won't be so easy, it is kinda obscure place to go. Here's better images of the boat, the locals, and the launch of a boat. Done in 30 knots of wind!
I'll add some of the monuments here if need be later.

Vietnam?

bit like this boat style





Mui Ne?

Its not Mui Ne, Phu Quoc, or Nha Trang but it's certainly Vietnam. More hints =  water color and wind strength. Hmmmm......

Giving up? Here's the pagoda in the center of the town.


I see the corn slid down a bit. 8670 now.  $101,700,000 sale to make that move.
Whale poop I believe.

 Linh Quang Pagoda: the oldest temple on Phu Quy island.  That explains the wind too.

 That was one of the toughest yet even with the full images.

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https://www.google.com/maps/@10.5111999,108.9447211,3a,75y,139.86h,95.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipPYYEyX8bu_hfLujxmcopcSq7iVeoj6wto-vitG!2e10!7i11000!8i5500

Bingo! Well done. Thou shalt be sprayed with thy merit.
Remote area that's only now starting to see significant tourism since better boats have been built to access the place. Visitors need a seperate visa as it's a military controlled island in the contentious South China Sea. Been coming here for the past 9 years for kitesurfing trips.   About 20k residents, most of which are fishermen and children  It's an interesting melting pot of culture that isn't found anywhere else in Vietnam.  The children still yell Hello when they see foreigners. Slowly things are changing, like everywhere. Wouldn't recommend it unless you're here for the wind or a weekend getaway from Saigon or similar.

[Arriemoller]

I’d like to see something similar passed in the UK.

I don’t think it’s fair I’ll have to pay up to 20% capital gains tax on an investment that I mostly bought in 2014-15.

In Germany there is 0% capital gains tax on assets that you have HODLED for over 12 months.

I’ll figure a way around it, I’ve been playing the system in business for years.

You think that is bad, I have to pay 30% capital gains tax on everything over 50 000 SEK (about 5000 USD).