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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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February 07, 2020, 04:53:37 PM
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nice graph,
it will be interesting how these machine will cope with new AML5 regulation in Europe.
In Italy I tested an ATM (without KYC, other installation avaliable over Europe, also in Spain) but I bet they have only weeks left before they shut down.
Comprare Bitcoin senza KYC: Bitcoin Bancomat a Milano rispettoso della Privacy

Total restructuring and regulation will occur when bitcoin is integrated into existing traditional ATMs installed in or owned by banks.

Even privately owned (by individuals) ATMs are a form of centralization.

The more governments and other corporations try to regulate them, the more people will turn to other more decentralized options like person-to-person transactions behind closed doors.

True decentralization consists of unofficial community of individuals worldwide.
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February 07, 2020, 04:58:00 PM

Unfortunately, our governments are only interested in collecting taxes and their partners, banks, charging commissions, the only hope will be that some countries freely adopt Bitcoin as one more freely circulating currency.
Everything else is in your hands, pure and hard financial engineering.
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February 07, 2020, 04:58:13 PM


nice graph,
it will be interesting how these machine will cope with new AML5 regulation in Europe.
In Italy I tested an ATM (without KYC, other installation avaliable over Europe, also in Spain) but I bet they have only weeks left before they shut down.
Comprare Bitcoin senza KYC: Bitcoin Bancomat a Milano rispettoso della Privacy

Total restructuring and regulation will occur when bitcoin is integrated into existing traditional ATMs installed in or owned by banks.

Even privately owned (by individuals) ATMs are a form of centralization.

The more governments and other corporations try to regulate them, the more people will turn to other more decentralized options like person-to-person transactions behind closed doors.

True decentralization consists of unofficial community of individuals worldwide.
As in, pre-KYC/AML localbitcoins. Over Tor, with feedback ratings.
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February 07, 2020, 05:00:37 PM

I have been thinking about it for a while...

I am going to dump a lot from my stash when this thing goes to moon next time because I want to experience some stuff that only the rich can but I think I'll also do it because, I just want more bitcoins and stay the fuck away from the legacy banking as much as possible.

Getting rich FIAT-wise is cool and that's what most people want but the next bitcoin moon shot will also provide you an opportunity to increase your coins at least x2 and possibly x4-5. (Assuming that it will go down %80 from the ATH again)

I think I'll dump some just to buy back later and If I won't be able to, I won't be really sorry. The only thing that can fuck me in the ass in this scenario is, if FIAT becomes completely worthless like Zimbabwe dollars.
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February 07, 2020, 05:01:45 PM
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Bitcoin Optech Newsletter #83

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This week’s newsletter announces the release of Eclair 0.3.3, requests help testing a Bitcoin Core maintenance release, links to a new tool for experimenting with taproot and tapscript, summarizes discussion about safely generating schnorr signatures with precomputed public keys, and describes a proposal for interactive construction of LN funding transactions. Also included is our regular section about notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure projects.

https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/02/05/
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February 07, 2020, 05:16:13 PM

I have been thinking about it for a while...

I am going to dump a lot from my stash when this thing goes to moon next time because I want to experience some stuff that only the rich can but I think I'll also do it because, I just want more bitcoins and stay the fuck away from the legacy banking as much as possible.

I want a sizeable chunk out and it's going to stay out. Somewhere around half will do. That's not for the sake of riches, there may not be all that much, more for stability and the ability to focus on other things without having to pay so much attention. I want to be interested, not compelled.

These cycles are just too boring now. It's not stressful or disappointing but I'm sick of being tied to the same old waves of hysteria followed by years of dullness. The idea of doing it all again all in beyond this move upwards, if there is to be one, feels like more than I'm willing to endure.

Very, very little will go into any form of bank.
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February 07, 2020, 05:19:31 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto link=topic=178336.msg53791597#msg53791597
True decentralization consists of unofficial community of individuals worldwide.
As in, pre-KYC/AML localbitcoins. Over Tor, with feedback ratings.

Or better yet, avoiding the internet and other forms of domestic espionage and meeting people through traditional face-to-face social contact away from cameras and analysis bots.
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February 07, 2020, 05:25:40 PM

You sound salty. Poor thing.

Your moral compass sounds way off. Broken.
Poor(er) thing.
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February 07, 2020, 05:31:28 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Yet another day and another (barely) AYH ($9878 Stamp) followed by a sane correction... currently $9801USD/$13045CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Nice and smooth, slow and steady.

Go bitcoin go.

Sleep tight, at $11k we're going to hold a jonoiv-proudhon party. Grin

Don't forget the other classic trolls like Kwukduck, Fonzie, NLC, Jaroslaw/Walsoraj, Matthecat, etc.

They're like the comics section in an old-fashioned newspaper. Good for a small laugh every day.

All those trolls are in my ignore list to this day, with kwukduck at the top. Back then I used to think these people were getting paid to troll. And now at this point I'm somewhat convinced these russian/chinese troll farms that are used to sway social media got their start in the Bitcoin community. Sort of a proving ground that sowing discord can have real world effects.

"Ok newbie welcome to trollcorp, now go cut your teeth on those new fangled Bitcoiners and all their joy and exuberance".

Its actually a credit to all of you who kept this thread going and active that you have turned it into what it is today, where the negative troll effect is effectively zero.
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February 07, 2020, 06:00:40 PM

All those trolls are in my ignore list to this day, with kwukduck at the top. Back then I used to think these people were getting paid to troll. And now at this point I'm somewhat convinced these russian/chinese troll farms that are used to sway social media got their start in the Bitcoin community. Sort of a proving ground that sowing discord can have real world effects.

"Ok newbie welcome to trollcorp, now go cut your teeth on those new fangled Bitcoiners and all their joy and exuberance".

Its actually a credit to all of you who kept this thread going and active that you have turned it into what it is today, where the negative troll effect is effectively zero.

Well howdy old timer. Lurk much?
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February 07, 2020, 06:06:35 PM


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Bitcoin passes its resistance price at $9,400-$9,500 and reaches $9,745 as the new 2020 high.



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https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-surpasses-9-700-to-hit-new-2020-high
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February 07, 2020, 06:07:37 PM
Last edit: February 07, 2020, 06:18:07 PM by bitebits

Since when do you need to login to browse reddit?
They for a while have been aggressively pushing for using the app, but could still be ignored.

Desperate to track and profile its users it seems. Bye Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin



Edit: screenshot on mobile device:
https://i.imgur.com/ias7FrB_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
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February 07, 2020, 06:14:14 PM

Since when do you need to login to browse reddit?
They for a while have been aggressively pushing for using the app, but could still be ignored.

Desperate to track and profile its users it seems. Bye Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin

https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/
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February 07, 2020, 06:14:14 PM

Since when do you need to login to browse reddit?
They for a while have been aggressively pushing for using the app, but could still be ignored.

Desperate to track and profile its users it seems. Bye Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin
No login required here. Old style computer and browser. Maybe it's a mobile thing only?

EDIT @Phil_S I like old.reddit.com better anyway  Smiley
Neither old or new require me to login atm.
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February 07, 2020, 06:23:21 PM

^ Might indeed be a mobile thing. And the old.reddit works, looks better as well IMO. Thanks guys.

(/r/bitcoin barely has anything interesting nowadays, but still)
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February 07, 2020, 06:23:45 PM

Since when do you need to login to browse reddit?
They for a while have been aggressively pushing for using the app, but could still be ignored.

Desperate to track and profile its users it seems. Bye Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin



Edit: screenshot on mobile device:
https://i.imgur.com/ias7FrB_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Prism. Sigh.
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February 07, 2020, 06:29:15 PM

Since when do you need to login to browse reddit?
They for a while have been aggressively pushing for using the app, but could still be ignored.

Desperate to track and profile its users it seems. Bye Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin

https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/

Old Reddit Redirect - Chrome Plugin
Old Reddit Redirect - Firefox Plugin

It is cancer on mobile. It doesn't bug you as long as you keep using the old one but whenever you click a link from google, that shit happens.

Also use this:

Old Twitter Layout - Chrome

New reddit layout is so bad it is basically unreadable. Pure shit.
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February 07, 2020, 07:14:30 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/more-400-million-people-lockdown-guangzhou-joins-quarantine

"Guangzhou, the capital of China's southwestern Guangdong Province and the country's fifth largest city with nearly 15 million residents, has just joined the ranks of cities imposing a mandatory lockdown on all citizens, effectively trapping residents inside their homes, with only limited permission to venture into the outside world to buy essential supplies.

That's more than 400 million people forcibly locked inside their homes for 638 deaths? Just think about that: If there was ever a reason to believe that Beijing is lying about the numbers (and not just because Tencent accidentally leaked the real data), this is it."



I am giving this a 10% chance of bringing down the Chinese government. 
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February 07, 2020, 07:22:56 PM
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In my opinion it is this:

It is one thing to find an alternative protocol to Bitcoin interesting, or believe in it as an investment.

I don't agree with this view, but people have the right to make choices, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong.  Live and let live.

However, going so far as refusing to condemn the objectively indefensible, places someone beyond the possibility of respect.  A fellow traveler ceases to be a friend, which is a shame.

Craig Wright's lack of principles and honesty is objectively indefensible.  This has been proven in a court of law.  He has lied under oath; it is not unreasonable to conclude he lives a tissue of lies.

When any man is obviously of sound mind and intelligent, but still disregards the obvious and will not condemn this plainly malignant, transparent liar, one can only conclude he is either; as corrupt as the man he defends, too egotistical, or too weak and foolish to look in the mirror and admit that he might be wrong.

And again, you conflate my support of BSV with support of CSW. Just no.

Dashjr has stated it is legitimate to kill all non-xtians. Does that taint all of BTC? No. For the person and the coin are two different things.

Do you think TRX and Justin Sun are two different things? Do you think TRX is not tainted by Justin?

If you believe that, then I have some TRX to sell you.  

There are plenty of reasons to completely ignore TRX. So I do.

Irrelevant false equivalence is irrelevant.

“I don’t like your question because I can’t answer it truthfully without revealing my corruption so I am going to pretend that I am above answering it”.

Have you considered running for office?

Don’t be a pussy.  Answer the question. Yes or No.

I answered the question. TRX is irrelevant to me. I can't be bothered to spend the time to look into it. Perhaps you have infinite amounts of free time on your hands. I do not.

Don’t pretend ignorance of Justin Sun and TRX - it’s completely transparent  You always run away from hard questions.

Stop being a pussy and answer the question.   Can Justin Sun be separated from TRX.  Yes or No.  
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