[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[lenny_]

P2pool becomes incompatible with some miners. Even with Stratum mining-proxy itself!
Look at Ztex BTCMiner log:

Code:

001-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-04A3461AD9-3: Error: unknown protocol: localhost: Disabling URL localhost:9332 for 60s

It cannot connect to p2pool and switching to backup pool
Stratum-mining-proxy reports:

Code:

$ python ~/stratum-mining-proxy/mining_proxy.py -gp 4704 -sp 4705 -rt -oh localhost -o localhost -p 9332
2012-12-31 01:08:20,062 INFO proxy jobs.<module> # Using C extension for midstate speedup. Good!
2012-12-31 01:08:23,061 ERROR proxy mining_proxy.main # Stratum host/port autodetection failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/pioruns/stratum-mining-proxy/mining_proxy.py", line 154, in main
    new_host = (yield utils.detect_stratum(args.host, args.port))
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Twisted-12.2.0-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1045, in _inlineCallbacks
    result = g.send(result)
  File "/home/pioruns/stratum-mining-proxy/mining_libs/utils.py", line 69, in detect_stratum
    header = f.response_headers.get('x-stratum', None)[0]
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable
2012-12-31 01:08:23,083 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # Stratum proxy version: 1.3.0
2012-12-31 01:08:23,083 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # Trying to connect to Stratum pool at localhost:9332
2012-12-31 01:08:23,092 INFO stats stats.print_stats # 1 peers connected, state changed 1 times
2012-12-31 01:08:23,093 INFO proxy mining_proxy.on_connect # Connected to Stratum pool at localhost:9332
2012-12-31 01:08:23,094 INFO proxy mining_proxy.on_connect # Subscribing for mining jobs
2012-12-31 01:08:23,111 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # -----------------------------------------------------------------------
2012-12-31 01:08:23,112 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # LISTENING FOR MINERS ON http://localhost:4704 (getwork) and stratum+tcp://0.0.0.0:4705 (stratum)
2012-12-31 01:08:23,113 WARNING proxy mining_proxy.main # -----------------------------------------------------------------------

And it's not working, miner connected to this stratum-mining-proxy cannot get any work (proxy spits out thousands of errors) and switching to backup pool.
With new version 10, P2pool become unusable for both miners I am using - Ztex BTCMiner and Stratum mining proxy.

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[iongchun]

P2pool becomes incompatible with some miners. Even with Stratum mining-proxy itself!
Look at Ztex BTCMiner log:

Code:

001-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-04A3461AD9-3: Error: unknown protocol: localhost: Disabling URL localhost:9332 for 60s

It cannot connect to p2pool and switching to backup pool

Both BTCMiner (v121126, cluster mode) and BFGminer seem work well with p2pool Stratum for me,
I don't see the same error for BTCMiner, running on amd64 Linux,
do you use different version or platform?

[lenny_]

P2pool becomes incompatible with some miners. Even with Stratum mining-proxy itself!
Look at Ztex BTCMiner log:

Code:

001-0: ztex_ufm1_15y1-04A3461AD9-3: Error: unknown protocol: localhost: Disabling URL localhost:9332 for 60s

It cannot connect to p2pool and switching to backup pool

Both BTCMiner (v121126, cluster mode) and BFGminer seem work well with p2pool Stratum for me,
I don't see the same error for BTCMiner, running on amd64 Linux,
do you use different version or platform?

BTCMiner does not have any Stratum support, only GetWork+ var diff. How it can be working for you, mate? 
I am using same as you AMD64 Linux.

[iongchun]

Both BTCMiner (v121126, cluster mode) and BFGminer seem work well with p2pool Stratum for me,
I don't see the same error for BTCMiner, running on amd64 Linux,
do you use different version or platform?

BTCMiner does not have any Stratum support, only GetWork+ var diff. How it can be working for you, mate? 
I am using same as you AMD64 Linux.

Haha..I just mean the version of p2pool with Stratum support
But maybe I don't run BTCMiner long enough to see the error.

[bitpop]

Luke jr, I thought you were anti stratum last I checked

[Luke-Jr]

Luke jr, I thought you were anti stratum last I checked

I'm anti-stratum for the pool<->miner connection, because it is* harmful to Bitcoin's security. In this case, the p2pool daemon is running locally, so it makes sense. (It also makes more work for me, and slush did it behind closed doors instead of contributing to the open developement of GBT)

* slush added a get_transactions method to allow for more transparent stratum use, but in this usage, it just consumes more bandwidth than GBT with none of the benefits

[bitpop]

Gotcha

[kano]

Luke jr, I thought you were anti stratum last I checked

I'm anti-stratum for the pool<->miner connection, because it is* harmful to Bitcoin's security. In this case, the p2pool daemon is running locally, so it makes sense. (It also makes more work for me, and slush did it behind closed doors instead of contributing to the open developement of GBT)

* slush added a get_transactions method to allow for more transparent stratum use, but in this usage, it just consumes more bandwidth than GBT with none of the benefits

Can you at least back up those lies?

1) How is stratum harmful to bitcoin's security in any way that GBT isn't also therefore harmful by your definition in their current incarnations?

2) Why does someone have to contribute to the development of GBT when they have their own idea that was known and in the open since the beginning of the year?

3) What is this new lie you are now spreading about comparing GBT to Stratum and saying that the Stratum transaction list is in any way less meaningful than the GBT transaction list and in any way uses more bandwidth?

Seriously, you lie about this all the time and never back up your lies coz they are simply that: lies.

Backup your bullshit or shut the fuck up about this crap you keep lying about all over the place.

Yes I know you wont follow this up and give any proof to your lies, coz they are simply that - lies - as everyone should understand that they are.

[rav3n_pl]

grep SHARE p2pool/data/bitcoin/log
2012-12-31 07:26:37.637027 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 005461de prev 7f752c8e age 1.00s
2012-12-31 09:41:22.081034 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 5bb6c97b prev 28ae9b73 age 10.18s
2012-12-31 11:42:48.881662 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 498af61a prev a690bd70 age 1.22s
2012-12-31 15:27:47.966547 GOT SHARE! 1FooBarwPJBCHENtafHz7UCfSK15FTh8wm 7c447bf4 prev 33c2552f age 0.78s
2012-12-31 16:17:29.271429 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu eaf9f045 prev 46eef6d5 age 1.84s

Shares: 5 total (5 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 0.000%

Mean GBT is 0.2s

WHY all orphaned???

[K1773R]

grep SHARE p2pool/data/bitcoin/log
2012-12-31 07:26:37.637027 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 005461de prev 7f752c8e age 1.00s
2012-12-31 09:41:22.081034 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 5bb6c97b prev 28ae9b73 age 10.18s
2012-12-31 11:42:48.881662 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 498af61a prev a690bd70 age 1.22s
2012-12-31 15:27:47.966547 GOT SHARE! 1FooBarwPJBCHENtafHz7UCfSK15FTh8wm 7c447bf4 prev 33c2552f age 0.78s
2012-12-31 16:17:29.271429 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu eaf9f045 prev 46eef6d5 age 1.84s

Shares: 5 total (5 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 0.000%

Mean GBT is 0.2s

WHY all orphaned???

something wrong with ur bitcoind

[PatMan]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

[K1773R]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

[PatMan]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

Yup, latest of both.....

[K1773R]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

Yup, latest of both.....

well then just use getwork, unless u got more than 50 GH/s it dosnt need stratum

[rav3n_pl]

grep SHARE p2pool/data/bitcoin/log
2012-12-31 07:26:37.637027 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 005461de prev 7f752c8e age 1.00s
2012-12-31 09:41:22.081034 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 5bb6c97b prev 28ae9b73 age 10.18s
2012-12-31 11:42:48.881662 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 498af61a prev a690bd70 age 1.22s
2012-12-31 15:27:47.966547 GOT SHARE! 1FooBarwPJBCHENtafHz7UCfSK15FTh8wm 7c447bf4 prev 33c2552f age 0.78s
2012-12-31 16:17:29.271429 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu eaf9f045 prev 46eef6d5 age 1.84s

Shares: 5 total (5 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 0.000%

Mean GBT is 0.2s

WHY all orphaned???

something wrong with ur bitcoind

Recompiled to latest git and restarted, will see.
Nothing wrong i see in bitcoin log anyway.

[PatMan]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

Yup, latest of both.....

well then just use getwork, unless u got more than 50 GH/s it dosnt need stratum

Done. Much better results. I was of the understanding that stratum was going to be an improvement ie: less stales/DOA?

[K1773R]

grep SHARE p2pool/data/bitcoin/log
2012-12-31 07:26:37.637027 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 005461de prev 7f752c8e age 1.00s
2012-12-31 09:41:22.081034 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 5bb6c97b prev 28ae9b73 age 10.18s
2012-12-31 11:42:48.881662 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu 498af61a prev a690bd70 age 1.22s
2012-12-31 15:27:47.966547 GOT SHARE! 1FooBarwPJBCHENtafHz7UCfSK15FTh8wm 7c447bf4 prev 33c2552f age 0.78s
2012-12-31 16:17:29.271429 GOT SHARE! toy.gpu eaf9f045 prev 46eef6d5 age 1.84s

Shares: 5 total (5 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 0.000%

Mean GBT is 0.2s

WHY all orphaned???

something wrong with ur bitcoind

Recompiled to latest git and restarted, will see.
Nothing wrong i see in bitcoin log anyway.

a share being orphaned means it dosnt fit the rules (did include wrong transactions, etc) or just really unlucky. therefore something wrong with ur bitcoind, restart it. i found that using the latest git is working well, but u shouldnt mine to a address in the wallet of the git bitcoind since its not declared stable yet. i got a VM running with every altcoin in it and bitcoind, p2pool is connecting to this and payout is set to another adress.

[K1773R]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

Yup, latest of both.....

well then just use getwork, unless u got more than 50 GH/s it dosnt need stratum

Done. Much better results. I was of the understanding that stratum was going to be an improvement ie: less stales/DOA?

it should yes, altough if there are problems (since its new and therefore probably bit buggy) u can get worse performance. im running cminer too and i got 0.36% stale, all my shares have been accepted (due to alot of connections) so far with stratum enabled.

[mdude77]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

Yup, latest of both.....

well then just use getwork, unless u got more than 50 GH/s it dosnt need stratum

Done. Much better results. I was of the understanding that stratum was going to be an improvement ie: less stales/DOA?

it should yes, altough if there are problems (since its new and therefore probably bit buggy) u can get worse performance. im running cminer too and i got 0.36% stale, all my shares have been accepted (due to alot of connections) so far with stratum enabled.

I had to disable stratum here as well, higher rejects with stratum than with LP.

M

[sharky112065]

I upgraded to the stratum enabled p2pool & cgminer but had to turn stratum off due to massive rise in stale/rejects, even after lowering my intensity on both Linux & windoze rigs - anyone else having these problems? 

did you upgrade to latest cgminer?

Yup, latest of both.....

well then just use getwork, unless u got more than 50 GH/s it dosnt need stratum

Done. Much better results. I was of the understanding that stratum was going to be an improvement ie: less stales/DOA?

it should yes, altough if there are problems (since its new and therefore probably bit buggy) u can get worse performance. im running cminer too and i got 0.36% stale, all my shares have been accepted (due to alot of connections) so far with stratum enabled.

I had to disable stratum here as well, higher rejects with stratum than with LP.

M

Interesting indeed. I'm running cgminer/p2pool with Stratum and am not having the issues you and others are mentioning. My reject rate is 2.3% and is the same as it was when I was running getwork. I still show Zero stales on Stratum as I did on getwork as well.

p2pool and bitcoind are running on a local server on my LAN. My rigs communicate with them on that same LAN/subnet.
 
I do not use the un-released git version of bitcoind.

If you are using an un-released git version of bitcoind or are using a non local p2pool server that could be your problem.